Welsh Father Arraigned for Asphyxiation of Two Children

Caitlin and Aidan SamuelOh man. Maintaining this blog is a hard slog sometimes. It’s hardest when I run across stories picturing beautiful children who are no longer with us. Caitlin and Aidan Samuel are adorable in this photo provided by the BBC. But they’re not on the BBC because they’re angelic; they’re there because they were found suffocated to death in their homes. Their father, Perry Samuel of North Wales, was arrested at the scene of the crime, and will be arraigned today on a charge of first-degree murder. There’s no indication of motive yet.

I’ll save my snarky words for Perry Samuel after more information becomes available, and we learn better what went through this sick man’s head. For the moment, I’m too sad for outrage. God, what a stupid, tragic loss.

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  • CDEL80

    Anyone know where the Mother was in all this? Just Curious where she was when these beautiful babies were with this psyco.

  • CDEL80

    Anyone know where the Mother was in all this? Just Curious where she was when these beautiful babies were with this psyco.

  • jane

    ye i kno hes doing well ! but thanx 4 telling me anyway!

  • jane

    ye i kno hes doing well ! but thanx 4 telling me anyway!

  • bitch

    same here….. he dint do it in malice as you will no he love them kids. but to get the longest jail term it is stupid he should be in hospital getting sorted out not stuck in the place where he is, i can tell you tho he is ok and keepin well

  • bitch

    same here….. he dint do it in malice as you will no he love them kids. but to get the longest jail term it is stupid he should be in hospital getting sorted out not stuck in the place where he is, i can tell you tho he is ok and keepin well

  • jane

    same here!! i cnt say cz every1 will kno who i am!
    i think it should of been shortenend longer!

  • jane

    same here!! i cnt say cz every1 will kno who i am!
    i think it should of been shortenend longer!

  • bitch

    cant really say how cos everyone will know who i am . dont think it was shotened enough ;

  • bitch

    cant really say how cos everyone will know who i am . dont think it was shotened enough ;

  • jane

    ye i kno all of pezs side of the family have dun 4 along time!!

    how did u kno them? ye i agree that pezs is family are hurtin more than hers!
    im so happy about his sentence bein shortened i think thats brilliant! cz he didnt mean to do it!!

  • jane

    ye i kno all of pezs side of the family have dun 4 along time!!

    how did u kno them? ye i agree that pezs is family are hurtin more than hers!
    im so happy about his sentence bein shortened i think thats brilliant! cz he didnt mean to do it!!

  • bitch

    hi jane yea i did no pez and his side of the family, the side that everyone has forgotten about….i would say there hurtin more than sarahs……….you dont see them going out enjoying themselves. did you know them

  • bitch

    hi jane yea i did no pez and his side of the family, the side that everyone has forgotten about….i would say there hurtin more than sarahs……….you dont see them going out enjoying themselves. did you know them

  • jane

    hi bitch im gld aswell tht there is sum1 on here that thinks the same as me! so can i ask you did u kno perry? or his family?

    and i agree he didnt hav a fair trial !
    i only read the one mag , bt all she did ws contradict herself. silly cow .

  • jane

    hi bitch im gld aswell tht there is sum1 on here that thinks the same as me! so can i ask you did u kno perry? or his family?

    and i agree he didnt hav a fair trial !
    i only read the one mag , bt all she did ws contradict herself. silly cow .

  • bitch

    thanx jane, at least someone thinks like me………both mag articles were shit. and when she went to the daily post god couldn,t believe it. what i did notice was she released it just a week before pez’s appeal, so it was all fresh in everyones mind. what the slag neglected to say in the mag’s was that pez never got a fair trial, he could have had threee seperate mental health reports brought into court butr he had non they never brought in his past medical condition……i know i am no doctor but you can not be insane 8 years then be sane for a nite’ i no from my bros experiance.

  • bitch

    thanx jane, at least someone thinks like me………both mag articles were shit. and when she went to the daily post god couldn,t believe it. what i did notice was she released it just a week before pez’s appeal, so it was all fresh in everyones mind. what the slag neglected to say in the mag’s was that pez never got a fair trial, he could have had threee seperate mental health reports brought into court butr he had non they never brought in his past medical condition……i know i am no doctor but you can not be insane 8 years then be sane for a nite’ i no from my bros experiance.

  • jane

    yes thank you bitch finally sum1 actually knows sumthin bout it all! sarah did nuffin bt cheat n av affairs behind perrys back she was never faithfull! n all she dus now aftr losing her babies is go out lukin like a slag n no doubt sleepin about!
    n the stuff tht ws in tht mag was a load of crap ive never heard so much shit in all my life!
    if she sufferin the way she says she is n apparently cnt talk bout it then why the f***k is she spreadin it round the world surely u grief 2 ur close family n friends? nt the bloody world stupid bitch!

  • jane

    yes thank you bitch finally sum1 actually knows sumthin bout it all! sarah did nuffin bt cheat n av affairs behind perrys back she was never faithfull! n all she dus now aftr losing her babies is go out lukin like a slag n no doubt sleepin about!
    n the stuff tht ws in tht mag was a load of crap ive never heard so much shit in all my life!
    if she sufferin the way she says she is n apparently cnt talk bout it then why the f***k is she spreadin it round the world surely u grief 2 ur close family n friends? nt the bloody world stupid bitch!

  • bitch

    no it wasn,t pez’s fault. Sarah the the slut is as much to blame a man who as had much mental probs, as he had had no doubting mum whould have left her kids. any one who new pez knew he loved them…as for sarah not having an affair is bull shit she kicked him out in january so she could move her new fella………..last in a long line into the house her and pez moved into 7 years ago

  • bitch

    no it wasn,t pez’s fault. Sarah the the slut is as much to blame a man who as had much mental probs, as he had had no doubting mum whould have left her kids. any one who new pez knew he loved them…as for sarah not having an affair is bull shit she kicked him out in january so she could move her new fella………..last in a long line into the house her and pez moved into 7 years ago

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  • kim

    2 mellisa ! watever !

    sarah is nuffin bt a slag always has bin n is not sufferin the way she says 2 the papers she is!
    she is out every weekend ! that dusnt look like a mother thats just lost her babys! she was out not long aftr it happened n not in quiet pubs drowning her sorrows! shes always in clubs dancin singin n drinkin!! r.i.p kaitlin n aiden.

    n poor perry we kno it wasnt ur fault.

  • kim

    2 mellisa ! watever !

    sarah is nuffin bt a slag always has bin n is not sufferin the way she says 2 the papers she is!
    she is out every weekend ! that dusnt look like a mother thats just lost her babys! she was out not long aftr it happened n not in quiet pubs drowning her sorrows! shes always in clubs dancin singin n drinkin!! r.i.p kaitlin n aiden.

    n poor perry we kno it wasnt ur fault.

  • janet

    If you want to know more about it, and you should because otherwise you will be a part of allowing it to happen more and more, even though you don’t MEAN to be, then this place explains what harm the drugs can do, why they drug makers do it, and what effect can have on people like you and me, very well. This is the title, and ‘Second Generation’ basically means ‘Modern’ antidepressants and antipsychotics:

    “SECOND GENERATION ANTIDEPRESSANTS AND ANTIPSYCHOTICS MOVING UPSTREAM

    Deaths can be quantified, but the sub
    lethal side effects manifest as
    PHARMACOLOGICAL IATROGENESIS

    Yolande Lucire
    PhD, MB BS DPM FRANZCP
    Forensic Psychiatrist”

    and the ‘article’ in full is found here:

    http://www.lucire.com.au/documents/pdf/effects-second-generation-on-healthcare.pdf

  • janet

    If you want to know more about it, and you should because otherwise you will be a part of allowing it to happen more and more, even though you don’t MEAN to be, then this place explains what harm the drugs can do, why they drug makers do it, and what effect can have on people like you and me, very well. This is the title, and ‘Second Generation’ basically means ‘Modern’ antidepressants and antipsychotics:

    “SECOND GENERATION ANTIDEPRESSANTS AND ANTIPSYCHOTICS MOVING UPSTREAM

    Deaths can be quantified, but the sub
    lethal side effects manifest as
    PHARMACOLOGICAL IATROGENESIS

    Yolande Lucire
    PhD, MB BS DPM FRANZCP
    Forensic Psychiatrist”

    and the ‘article’ in full is found here:

    http://www.lucire.com.au/documents/pdf/effects-second-generation-on-healthcare.pdf

  • janet

    Sorry re typos.
    Its IATROGENIC illness,
    and TRAGIC (not Tragis).

  • janet

    Sorry re typos.
    Its IATROGENIC illness,
    and TRAGIC (not Tragis).

  • janet

    The effect of a drug CAUSING the illness is commonly known as IATROGENEGIC illness.

    It happens a LOT with psychiatric drugs. Start on a drug for hardly anything, then (depending on how your body can deal with those drugs) weeks, months or a year or two later some people have all the signs of mental illness and nobody remembers what they were like when they FIRST went to the doctor and he gave them tablets. Especially the person on the tablets, their head is gone and they can’t remember either. They have become the ‘mentally ill patient’ and thats what everyone ‘knows’ about them. They’re ‘ILL’.

    For the rest of their life unless they wake up to what has really happened and remember what was wrong first of all.

    That suits the industry making the drugs – once ‘mentally’ hooked on them, they’ll be taking them forever. And if anything goes wrong, the drug company knows that everyone will blame the patient one way or another, either because he must be bad, or because he is now “MENTALLY ILL” in everyone’s mind.

    Convenient isn’t it, for the people who make drug money from what happens to those people.

    TRAGIS, isn’t it when people die because of it.

  • janet

    The effect of a drug CAUSING the illness is commonly known as IATROGENEGIC illness.

    It happens a LOT with psychiatric drugs. Start on a drug for hardly anything, then (depending on how your body can deal with those drugs) weeks, months or a year or two later some people have all the signs of mental illness and nobody remembers what they were like when they FIRST went to the doctor and he gave them tablets. Especially the person on the tablets, their head is gone and they can’t remember either. They have become the ‘mentally ill patient’ and thats what everyone ‘knows’ about them. They’re ‘ILL’.

    For the rest of their life unless they wake up to what has really happened and remember what was wrong first of all.

    That suits the industry making the drugs – once ‘mentally’ hooked on them, they’ll be taking them forever. And if anything goes wrong, the drug company knows that everyone will blame the patient one way or another, either because he must be bad, or because he is now “MENTALLY ILL” in everyone’s mind.

    Convenient isn’t it, for the people who make drug money from what happens to those people.

    TRAGIS, isn’t it when people die because of it.

  • janet

    No he wouldn’t know what he was doing. Note that withdrawal can include
    AGITATION
    HALLUCINATIONS
    CONFUSION
    CHANGE OF PERSONALITY
    FEELINGS OF UNREALITY
    among other things.

    And, believe it or NOT, you’ll find with just any psych drug you take that side effects when TAKING them are similar in some people. Name a drug and research online and you’ll find evidence to prove it by the drug company that makes the drug you’re looking at.

  • janet

    No he wouldn’t know what he was doing. Note that withdrawal can include
    AGITATION
    HALLUCINATIONS
    CONFUSION
    CHANGE OF PERSONALITY
    FEELINGS OF UNREALITY
    among other things.

    And, believe it or NOT, you’ll find with just any psych drug you take that side effects when TAKING them are similar in some people. Name a drug and research online and you’ll find evidence to prove it by the drug company that makes the drug you’re looking at.

  • janet

    WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS of a ‘popular’ class of psych drugs:

    “The first group may be unlike anything you have had before:

    Dizziness – “when I turn to look at something I feel my head lags behind”.
    Electric Head – which includes a number of strange brain sensations –
    “it’s almost like the brain is having a version of goose pimples”.
    Electric Shock-like Sensations – Zaps
    Other Strange Tingling or Painful Sensations
    Nausea, Diarrhoea, Flatulence
    Headache
    Muscle Spasms/ Tremor
    Dreams, including Agitated Dreams or other Vivid Dreams
    Agitation
    Hallucinations or other visual or auditory disturbances

    The second group are symptoms which may lead you or your physician to think that all you have are features of your original problem. These include:

    Depression and Anxiety – these are the COMMONEST TWO WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS Labile Mood – emotions swinging wildly
    Irritability
    Confusion
    Fatigue/ Malaise – Flu-like Feelings
    Insomnia or Drowsiness
    Sweating
    Feelings of Unreality
    Feelings of being Hot or Cold
    Change of Personality…”

  • janet

    WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS of a ‘popular’ class of psych drugs:

    “The first group may be unlike anything you have had before:

    Dizziness – “when I turn to look at something I feel my head lags behind”.
    Electric Head – which includes a number of strange brain sensations –
    “it’s almost like the brain is having a version of goose pimples”.
    Electric Shock-like Sensations – Zaps
    Other Strange Tingling or Painful Sensations
    Nausea, Diarrhoea, Flatulence
    Headache
    Muscle Spasms/ Tremor
    Dreams, including Agitated Dreams or other Vivid Dreams
    Agitation
    Hallucinations or other visual or auditory disturbances

    The second group are symptoms which may lead you or your physician to think that all you have are features of your original problem. These include:

    Depression and Anxiety – these are the COMMONEST TWO WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS Labile Mood – emotions swinging wildly
    Irritability
    Confusion
    Fatigue/ Malaise – Flu-like Feelings
    Insomnia or Drowsiness
    Sweating
    Feelings of Unreality
    Feelings of being Hot or Cold
    Change of Personality…”

  • janet

    “xxxxxx Says:
    March 15th, 2007 at 6:39 am
    ye well whatever any1 of you think perry samuel is not evil and needs 2be in a horpital nopt a prison !and wever he wanted 2 b seen by phsyciatrist or not he is still ill! and he mite of been let out of hospital a few weeks b4 but all it would have taken is for him 2miss his medication an he would not have been thinkin clearly or not at all!! he wouldnt have known wat was happenin.. ”

    You’re right on that last point. Thats because missing a dose causes WITHDRAWAL and the symptoms of withdrawal (even in some healthy volunteers) are just like MENTAL ILLNESS. Isn’t that strange? Even stranger, the side effects (even in some healthy volunteers) while TAKING medication look just like MENTAL ILLNESS.

    Poor children, poor man.

  • janet

    “xxxxxx Says:
    March 15th, 2007 at 6:39 am
    ye well whatever any1 of you think perry samuel is not evil and needs 2be in a horpital nopt a prison !and wever he wanted 2 b seen by phsyciatrist or not he is still ill! and he mite of been let out of hospital a few weeks b4 but all it would have taken is for him 2miss his medication an he would not have been thinkin clearly or not at all!! he wouldnt have known wat was happenin.. ”

    You’re right on that last point. Thats because missing a dose causes WITHDRAWAL and the symptoms of withdrawal (even in some healthy volunteers) are just like MENTAL ILLNESS. Isn’t that strange? Even stranger, the side effects (even in some healthy volunteers) while TAKING medication look just like MENTAL ILLNESS.

    Poor children, poor man.

  • Melissa

    Maybe it’s her way of coping…I’m not saying it’s right, I couldn’t do it but it might help her forget for a while.

  • Melissa

    Maybe it’s her way of coping…I’m not saying it’s right, I couldn’t do it but it might help her forget for a while.

  • …………..

    i think we shud all ask ourselves that if sarah graham is suffering so much why is she out every weekend dressed like a slag in all the clubs with her mates!

  • …………..

    i think we shud all ask ourselves that if sarah graham is suffering so much why is she out every weekend dressed like a slag in all the clubs with her mates!

  • Melissa

    Whether you’re sick or not…to do something like this makes him evil. Maybe he does need help but he also needs to be put away.

  • Melissa

    Whether you’re sick or not…to do something like this makes him evil. Maybe he does need help but he also needs to be put away.

  • xxxxxx

    ye well whatever any1 of you think perry samuel is not evil and needs 2be in a horpital nopt a prison !and wever he wanted 2 b seen by phsyciatrist or not he is still ill! and he mite of been let out of hospital a few weeks b4 but all it would have taken is for him 2miss his medication an he would not have been thinkin clearly or not at all!! he wouldnt have known wat was happenin..

  • xxxxxx

    ye well whatever any1 of you think perry samuel is not evil and needs 2be in a horpital nopt a prison !and wever he wanted 2 b seen by phsyciatrist or not he is still ill! and he mite of been let out of hospital a few weeks b4 but all it would have taken is for him 2miss his medication an he would not have been thinkin clearly or not at all!! he wouldnt have known wat was happenin..

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  • janet

    If you look hard you’ll see its started happening all over the UK. Here’s one good example from Newcastle, last November, where the medication was, unusually, mentioned in the article:

    “Police arrested Mr Crampton outside his parents’ home in the afternoon. He had been taking Prozac tablets for depression before the attack.”

    http://www.thisisthenortheast.co.uk/display.var.1024109.0.ive_murdered_my_entire_family_.php

    “DETECTIVES investigating the deaths of two children, their mother and her brother told last night how a man had phoned to say: “I’ve murdered my entire family.”

    Police found the bodies of five-year-old Steven Crampton and his sister, Abigail, 12, lying close to their beds in their North-East home.

    They were both wearing pyjamas.

    The bodies of the children’s mother, Olufunke Sobo, who was also known as Liz, and their uncle, Yemi Sobo, 41, a nightclub photographer, were found downstairs.

    The children’s father – 33-year-old ex-taxi driver Neil Crampton – has been arrested in connection with the deaths.

    It is believed all four were stabbed to death, although detectives have not revealed how they were killed, other than that they were the victims of a sustained, violent attack.

    The children’s grandmother, Tunde Sobo, who was wrongly named as a victim in some national newspapers yesterday, also lived at the house, in Hawthorn Gardens, Kenton, Newcastle. She returned from a holiday in her native Nigeria yesterday to find her home sealed off behind a police cordon.

    Mrs Sobo was then told about the deaths.

    Police arrested Mr Crampton outside his parents’ home in the afternoon. He had been TAKING PROZAC tablets for DEPRESSION before the attack…”

    “…Mr Wade said there was no record of domestic violence between Ms Sobo and her former partner…”

    Don’t you think there is something strange going on when a person suffering from depression (and in some cases not even depression) end up killing their families and sometimes themselves as well after taking these kinds of tablets?

  • janet

    If you look hard you’ll see its started happening all over the UK. Here’s one good example from Newcastle, last November, where the medication was, unusually, mentioned in the article:

    “Police arrested Mr Crampton outside his parents’ home in the afternoon. He had been taking Prozac tablets for depression before the attack.”

    http://www.thisisthenortheast.co.uk/display.var.1024109.0.ive_murdered_my_entire_family_.php

    “DETECTIVES investigating the deaths of two children, their mother and her brother told last night how a man had phoned to say: “I’ve murdered my entire family.”

    Police found the bodies of five-year-old Steven Crampton and his sister, Abigail, 12, lying close to their beds in their North-East home.

    They were both wearing pyjamas.

    The bodies of the children’s mother, Olufunke Sobo, who was also known as Liz, and their uncle, Yemi Sobo, 41, a nightclub photographer, were found downstairs.

    The children’s father – 33-year-old ex-taxi driver Neil Crampton – has been arrested in connection with the deaths.

    It is believed all four were stabbed to death, although detectives have not revealed how they were killed, other than that they were the victims of a sustained, violent attack.

    The children’s grandmother, Tunde Sobo, who was wrongly named as a victim in some national newspapers yesterday, also lived at the house, in Hawthorn Gardens, Kenton, Newcastle. She returned from a holiday in her native Nigeria yesterday to find her home sealed off behind a police cordon.

    Mrs Sobo was then told about the deaths.

    Police arrested Mr Crampton outside his parents’ home in the afternoon. He had been TAKING PROZAC tablets for DEPRESSION before the attack…”

    “…Mr Wade said there was no record of domestic violence between Ms Sobo and her former partner…”

    Don’t you think there is something strange going on when a person suffering from depression (and in some cases not even depression) end up killing their families and sometimes themselves as well after taking these kinds of tablets?

  • janet

    A long list posted because few people bother to go and look at a link and in the hope that one day people will WAKE UP before that list of only a FEW of the dead doubles in length. Its only a FEW of the actual number because it is rarely disclosed that the person involved was on psychiatric medicine or in withdrawal.

    The site where I got that from ALSO shows school shootings, attempted murders, suicides, violence, and similar events, every one of them being while on medication or in withdrawal and each with a link to the original report.

    http://www.ssristories.com/index.php?sort=what