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China Arnold Accused of Microwaving Baby to Death

Microwave ovenOh Holy God. I know I say “this is the worst thing I’ve ever read” at least once a month week, but…truly, folks. This may be the chart-topper. China Arnold’s three-week-old baby, Paris Talley, died last year with an abnormally high body temperature. Over one year later, police have arrested the 26-year-old on charges that she stuck her child in the microwave and pressed the “Baby” shortcut button.

What took so long to bust the bitch? The method of execution. Little is known about what effect microwave radiation will have on a child because…well, because no one’s been cruel and inhumane enough to commit such an atrocity. Sure, folks have floated the idea of using microwaves against electronics equipment and grown humans…but babies? And at the hands of one’s own mother nonetheless? Jesus. What an awful, awful way to die.

What are the prosecution’s chances of proving this case in court? I don’t know. I imagine most of their case will boil down to scientific testimony, an exclusion of all other possibilities, and an assault on the mother’s character. If China Arnold’s defense can float one or two alternative theories of death, it may be enough to keep her out of jail.

There seems to be little information about Arnold available. Was she in trouble with child services before this? If anyone can testify to this woman’s character as either a person or a mother, speak up.

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  1. China claims that her childs father left the baby with a baby sitter the night before.
    There seems to be little out there about this case or the original statements made to hospital personal..

    However, this is not the first time a parent has done this. According to this article about China
    http://www.wjactv.com/news/10414500/detail.html
    at the bottom it states this…
    “In 2000, a Virginia woman was sentenced to five years in prison for killing her month-old son in a microwave oven.

    Elizabeth Renee Otte claimed she had no memory of cramming her son in the microwave and turning on the appliance in 1999. Experts said Otte suffered from epilepsy and that her seizures were followed by blackouts. “

  2. China claims that her childs father left the baby with a baby sitter the night before.
    There seems to be little out there about this case or the original statements made to hospital personal..

    However, this is not the first time a parent has done this. According to this article about China
    http://www.wjactv.com/news/10414500/detail.html
    at the bottom it states this…
    “In 2000, a Virginia woman was sentenced to five years in prison for killing her month-old son in a microwave oven.

    Elizabeth Renee Otte claimed she had no memory of cramming her son in the microwave and turning on the appliance in 1999. Experts said Otte suffered from epilepsy and that her seizures were followed by blackouts. “

  3. something isnt right here

    that is REALLY sick! Lock her up before she “blacks out” and kills anyone else!!!

  4. something isnt right here

    that is REALLY sick! Lock her up before she “blacks out” and kills anyone else!!!

  5. Here’s the AP report on the same story.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061129/ap_on_re_us/baby_death_microwave

    It states the babysitter was the father’s sister.

  6. Here’s the AP report on the same story.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061129/ap_on_re_us/baby_death_microwave

    It states the babysitter was the father’s sister.

  7. I am sorry if my previous comment was misleading.

    It was not China who claimed to have blacked out.
    Although the article was about China Arnold, the last paragraph mentions another mother who killed her infant child via microwave.
    That woman, Elizabeth Renee Otte, is the one who claims to have blacked out.
    China Arnold claims she is innocent.
    BTW Elizabeth Renee Otte only recieved 5 years for killing her 1 month old son.

    Thank you Rebecca for the link.

  8. I am sorry if my previous comment was misleading.

    It was not China who claimed to have blacked out.
    Although the article was about China Arnold, the last paragraph mentions another mother who killed her infant child via microwave.
    That woman, Elizabeth Renee Otte, is the one who claims to have blacked out.
    China Arnold claims she is innocent.
    BTW Elizabeth Renee Otte only recieved 5 years for killing her 1 month old son.

    Thank you Rebecca for the link.

  9. I wouldn’t do that to any of my kids! Oh, and even my brother-in-law’s second wife Amy wouldn’t do that to my nieces and even to her baby! What a motherfucker China Arnold is!

  10. I wouldn’t do that to any of my kids! Oh, and even my brother-in-law’s second wife Amy wouldn’t do that to my nieces and even to her baby! What a motherfucker China Arnold is!

  11. It should be noted ….
    The babysister is the fathers sister!
    Also dear dad has a history of domestic violence whereas China doesn’t.

    I am not just yet ready to proclaim her the guilty one.
    I think I need to hear a little more about the evidence in this case.
    PS. Both the father and the mother have passed polygraphs… no word on dad’s sister AKA the babysitter.

  12. It should be noted ….
    The babysister is the fathers sister!
    Also dear dad has a history of domestic violence whereas China doesn’t.

    I am not just yet ready to proclaim her the guilty one.
    I think I need to hear a little more about the evidence in this case.
    PS. Both the father and the mother have passed polygraphs… no word on dad’s sister AKA the babysitter.

  13. This happened here in my home town… here is some local coverage on the case:

    http://www.whiotv.com/news/10424153/detail.html

    As a mother of 4, i am dumbfounded at the mere possibility of it happening, and seriously disturbed knowing it has.

  14. This happened here in my home town… here is some local coverage on the case:

    http://www.whiotv.com/news/10424153/detail.html

    As a mother of 4, i am dumbfounded at the mere possibility of it happening, and seriously disturbed knowing it has.

  15. Thanks for the local news link.

    Now what I don’t understand is if she did confess as they are claiming why did they not arrest her then??

    If you confess you DO NOT remain free unless your out on bail..
    This sounds odd to me.

  16. Thanks for the local news link.

    Now what I don’t understand is if she did confess as they are claiming why did they not arrest her then??

    If you confess you DO NOT remain free unless your out on bail..
    This sounds odd to me.

  17. Thanks, mysticalchick. Very revealing.

    Thanks to everybody for providing info. Let’s keep track of this case and trial, and see where it goes…

  18. Thanks, mysticalchick. Very revealing.

    Thanks to everybody for providing info. Let’s keep track of this case and trial, and see where it goes…

  19. So apparently China no sweetheart of a parent either?

    Thank you for the think:)

  20. So apparently China no sweetheart of a parent either?

    Thank you for the think:)

  21. No matter who did it, there are no words…

  22. No matter who did it, there are no words…

  23. Oh Dear Lord! I can’t seem to get this out of my head! blah

  24. Oh Dear Lord! I can’t seem to get this out of my head! blah

  25. This sounds like life copying urban legend.
    I watched a program on The Learning Channel about urban legends And it talked about the babysitter
    putting the baby in the oven cuz she was stoned and thought he was a turkey. It later stated about the Otte woman. Do you think she also saw this and thought she would only get 5 years.
    What a sick way to get out of being a parent!

  26. This sounds like life copying urban legend.
    I watched a program on The Learning Channel about urban legends And it talked about the babysitter
    putting the baby in the oven cuz she was stoned and thought he was a turkey. It later stated about the Otte woman. Do you think she also saw this and thought she would only get 5 years.
    What a sick way to get out of being a parent!

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  31. was that supposed to be a racist comment? Good job.

  32. was that supposed to be a racist comment? Good job.

  33. Comments deleted. No racist bullshit on my blog.

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  35. I think that many of us are forgetting that she is innocent until proven guilty. The crime is terrible, but she didn’t necessarily commit it. It could have been the father, his sister or one of her other children. There were other people in the house. Remember how you would want to be perceived if you were in the same position. The other crimes that she pleaded guilty to have nothing to do with murdering your own child.

  36. I think that many of us are forgetting that she is innocent until proven guilty. The crime is terrible, but she didn’t necessarily commit it. It could have been the father, his sister or one of her other children. There were other people in the house. Remember how you would want to be perceived if you were in the same position. The other crimes that she pleaded guilty to have nothing to do with murdering your own child.

  37. in my heart and me being a mother. i cannot beleive she did this. the other children were in the house kids are so mischeifios.it will show up them or a neighber child cooked the baby. so sad.mothers please watch your children at all times especially that young. wonder if CHINA IS SUFFERING NOW time will tell ………..

  38. in my heart and me being a mother. i cannot beleive she did this. the other children were in the house kids are so mischeifios.it will show up them or a neighber child cooked the baby. so sad.mothers please watch your children at all times especially that young. wonder if CHINA IS SUFFERING NOW time will tell ………..

  39. This woman was convicted of abducting an elderly woman from a parking lot in 2000, with the threat that she had a gun, and forcing the woman to drive her somewhere then stealing her purse. She received 5 years probation for that offense. She was also convicted of forgery in 2002. She received 5 years probation for that too. I don’t understand how the second one didn’t get her thrown in prison since she was still on probation for the first. I will never understand how a mother can kill her own child. This kind of case is baffling to me. I just don’t get it.

  40. This woman was convicted of abducting an elderly woman from a parking lot in 2000, with the threat that she had a gun, and forcing the woman to drive her somewhere then stealing her purse. She received 5 years probation for that offense. She was also convicted of forgery in 2002. She received 5 years probation for that too. I don’t understand how the second one didn’t get her thrown in prison since she was still on probation for the first. I will never understand how a mother can kill her own child. This kind of case is baffling to me. I just don’t get it.

  41. What the hell is wrong with the world? Why on earth would anyone with half a sense of decency or for that matter a brain do something like this?

  42. What the hell is wrong with the world? Why on earth would anyone with half a sense of decency or for that matter a brain do something like this?

  43. FIRST off she did not confess that was incorrect on the part of dayton daily news, and was retracted, i believe she is innocent, i do not think she would kill her own daughter, she has 3 other kids, its not like she doesnt know how to handle them, there were other people in the house.

  44. FIRST off she did not confess that was incorrect on the part of dayton daily news, and was retracted, i believe she is innocent, i do not think she would kill her own daughter, she has 3 other kids, its not like she doesnt know how to handle them, there were other people in the house.

  45. China Arnold has not been convicted. It seems to me that she is not “eligible” for “worst parent of 2006”, and it is irresponsible to “nominate” her as such. The jury has yet to convene, much less make a decision. Thus far, I have yet to see anything to convince me she is necessarily the one who murdered the child. Oh, and I don’t see anyone who is anxious to cite her criminal history address the fact that she was a mother of other children with no history of abuse, was working full-time, and was a full-time student as well. A number of other people were in and out of the apartment that night, including the father and his sister (the babysitter).

    All theorizing aside, the fact is China Arnold has yet to be convicted of anything, and should not be “in the running” for the distinction of worst parent of the year.

    ~KRO

  46. China Arnold has not been convicted. It seems to me that she is not “eligible” for “worst parent of 2006”, and it is irresponsible to “nominate” her as such. The jury has yet to convene, much less make a decision. Thus far, I have yet to see anything to convince me she is necessarily the one who murdered the child. Oh, and I don’t see anyone who is anxious to cite her criminal history address the fact that she was a mother of other children with no history of abuse, was working full-time, and was a full-time student as well. A number of other people were in and out of the apartment that night, including the father and his sister (the babysitter).

    All theorizing aside, the fact is China Arnold has yet to be convicted of anything, and should not be “in the running” for the distinction of worst parent of the year.

    ~KRO

  47. KR – that’s up for readers to decide. If the believe she’s innocent, they can choose not to vote for her. If they believe she’s guilty, she might well deserve people’s votes.

  48. KR – that’s up for readers to decide. If the believe she’s innocent, they can choose not to vote for her. If they believe she’s guilty, she might well deserve people’s votes.

  49. Zero Boss,

    I get it now. WE are supposed to be the judge and jury! Gee, forgive my obtuseness.

    If WE decide she is the worst parent of 2006, and she is then found innocent (assuming that after we pass judgment, the court decides to hold a trial anyway), will there be a runner-up in this competition so the crown can be passed to them? Or will China still hold the honor by virtue of our superior individual and collective intuition?

    ~KRO

  50. Zero Boss,

    I get it now. WE are supposed to be the judge and jury! Gee, forgive my obtuseness.

    If WE decide she is the worst parent of 2006, and she is then found innocent (assuming that after we pass judgment, the court decides to hold a trial anyway), will there be a runner-up in this competition so the crown can be passed to them? Or will China still hold the honor by virtue of our superior individual and collective intuition?

    ~KRO

  51. If you vote for an innocent woman, then you’re obviously a bunch of dumbasses.

    😀

    In that event, yes, I’d vacate the award and give it to the next runner-up. But the same could happen for any of the parents here, if one or more of them miraculously convince some court to throw out their conviction.

    If you don’t like it, don’t vote. Very simple.

  52. If you vote for an innocent woman, then you’re obviously a bunch of dumbasses.

    😀

    In that event, yes, I’d vacate the award and give it to the next runner-up. But the same could happen for any of the parents here, if one or more of them miraculously convince some court to throw out their conviction.

    If you don’t like it, don’t vote. Very simple.

  53. Got it, Zero Boss.

    China Arnold, like it or not, you are assumed guilty. You are not entitled to a trial, and if you get one, and are found innocent, we all know you did it and got off, and are prepared to execute you, at least virtually. (If found innocent, it must be all that money you have for a lawyer.) Besides, it is much more fun to assume your guilt, than to be either unbiased or objective, or wait until the verdict is in. If you were a good mother, you would not be accused of such a horrendous crime. After all, where there’s smoke, there’s fire–ask all those ever burned at the stake–oh, wait, you really can’t ask them, can you? All those ever lynched? Hmmm…guess not. Well, some things are just the way they are, China. Live with it (or not).

    Do I have it right yet, ZB?

    Waiting breathlessly for an approval of my enlightenment,
    ~KRO

  54. Got it, Zero Boss.

    China Arnold, like it or not, you are assumed guilty. You are not entitled to a trial, and if you get one, and are found innocent, we all know you did it and got off, and are prepared to execute you, at least virtually. (If found innocent, it must be all that money you have for a lawyer.) Besides, it is much more fun to assume your guilt, than to be either unbiased or objective, or wait until the verdict is in. If you were a good mother, you would not be accused of such a horrendous crime. After all, where there’s smoke, there’s fire–ask all those ever burned at the stake–oh, wait, you really can’t ask them, can you? All those ever lynched? Hmmm…guess not. Well, some things are just the way they are, China. Live with it (or not).

    Do I have it right yet, ZB?

    Waiting breathlessly for an approval of my enlightenment,
    ~KRO

  55. Sigh. No, KR. It;s like this: people are entitled to their opinion. People do, and will, have opinions regardless of whether there’s been a jury verdict or not. Even AFTER there’s been a jury verdict, some people will insist that the jury was tokin’, and will insist on a person’s guilt or innocence. Khalid Adem still swears he’s innocent. So does OJ Simpson, who most literate people were convinced was guilty even before the first day of the trial.

    Obviously, the readers of a blog have no power to convict somebody or sentence them to jail. Opinion and verdict are two separate things – your obnoxious “burning at the stake” analogies notwithstanding.

  56. Sigh. No, KR. It;s like this: people are entitled to their opinion. People do, and will, have opinions regardless of whether there’s been a jury verdict or not. Even AFTER there’s been a jury verdict, some people will insist that the jury was tokin’, and will insist on a person’s guilt or innocence. Khalid Adem still swears he’s innocent. So does OJ Simpson, who most literate people were convinced was guilty even before the first day of the trial.

    Obviously, the readers of a blog have no power to convict somebody or sentence them to jail. Opinion and verdict are two separate things – your obnoxious “burning at the stake” analogies notwithstanding.

  57. Dear ZB,

    *I* am obnoxious for mentioning that people have been burned at the stake for little or no reason?

    Say, ZB, ever hear of projection?

    This blog would make much more sense if it considered all possibilities, and withheld judgment until all the facts, and jury, were in. Also, you speak of opinions vs. verdict, yet I see few remarks given as *opinion*, and a whole lot of *verdicts*, including yours, encouraging such.

    It’s truly sad we live in a world where most people simply react to whatever pushes their buttons, rather than THINK and remain objective.

    Sigh, indeed…
    ~KRO

  58. Dear ZB,

    *I* am obnoxious for mentioning that people have been burned at the stake for little or no reason?

    Say, ZB, ever hear of projection?

    This blog would make much more sense if it considered all possibilities, and withheld judgment until all the facts, and jury, were in. Also, you speak of opinions vs. verdict, yet I see few remarks given as *opinion*, and a whole lot of *verdicts*, including yours, encouraging such.

    It’s truly sad we live in a world where most people simply react to whatever pushes their buttons, rather than THINK and remain objective.

    Sigh, indeed…
    ~KRO

  59. In cases where doubt seems to be warranted, I withhold judgment. In cases that seem more clear-cut, I spout off. Sometimes, I’m wrong; when I am, I apologize. That’s how I roll.

    As for China Arnold, I haven’t made a decision either way, frankly. If you read my follow-up post, then you know I haven’t come down on one side or the other. But given how much attention this horrible crime generated, I wasn’t going to keep it off my year-end list.

    If you want a site with less bombast and (in your opinion) more “balance”, start your own blog. Sadly, there’s more than enough material to go around.

  60. In cases where doubt seems to be warranted, I withhold judgment. In cases that seem more clear-cut, I spout off. Sometimes, I’m wrong; when I am, I apologize. That’s how I roll.

    As for China Arnold, I haven’t made a decision either way, frankly. If you read my follow-up post, then you know I haven’t come down on one side or the other. But given how much attention this horrible crime generated, I wasn’t going to keep it off my year-end list.

    If you want a site with less bombast and (in your opinion) more “balance”, start your own blog. Sadly, there’s more than enough material to go around.

  61. Well, ZB,

    Actually, I didn’t start out saying anything about your opinion, per se–I just pointed out that China Arnold is technically not eligible for nomination because it is yet to be proven she is guilty of murder. I would, however, be inclined to think you have a very strong opinion, based on the following:

    “What took so long to bust the bitch? The method of execution. Little is known about what effect microwave radiation will have on a child because…well, because no one’s been cruel and inhumane enough to commit such an atrocity. Sure, folks have floated the idea of using microwaves against electronics equipment and grown humans…but babies? And at the hands of one’s own mother nonetheless? Jesus. What an awful, awful way to die.”

    If there is a follow-up to this, I have not seen the link to it.

    Incidentally, FYI, there is a previous instance of a mother microwaving her baby, in Virginia, several years ago. Her defense was that she had a blackout (epiletic, I believe, and given to such after seizures), and must have thought she was putting the baby’s bottle in the microwave. She got five years, which seems excessive if her defense is true (any term seems excessive if her defense is true), and woefully inadequate if it is not true. (Some folks are of the mind that that puny sentence was incentive to C.A. to do a copy-cat. However, I would be given to think that although one might get an idea of how to off a baby by reading such (as in the summer that several kids just so happened to all climb into the trunks of their respective families’ cars and suffocate there), it seems unlikely that the minimal sentence would logically influence such without a similar circumstance.

    I always find it interesting when anyone suggests someone leave, rather than respond to what s/he has to say. I have no desire to start a blog on bad parents, and since you have invited commentary on yours, I would hope that would include commentary that is not necessarily in agreement with your viewpoint, or with that of other posters.

    ~KRO

  62. Well, ZB,

    Actually, I didn’t start out saying anything about your opinion, per se–I just pointed out that China Arnold is technically not eligible for nomination because it is yet to be proven she is guilty of murder. I would, however, be inclined to think you have a very strong opinion, based on the following:

    “What took so long to bust the bitch? The method of execution. Little is known about what effect microwave radiation will have on a child because…well, because no one’s been cruel and inhumane enough to commit such an atrocity. Sure, folks have floated the idea of using microwaves against electronics equipment and grown humans…but babies? And at the hands of one’s own mother nonetheless? Jesus. What an awful, awful way to die.”

    If there is a follow-up to this, I have not seen the link to it.

    Incidentally, FYI, there is a previous instance of a mother microwaving her baby, in Virginia, several years ago. Her defense was that she had a blackout (epiletic, I believe, and given to such after seizures), and must have thought she was putting the baby’s bottle in the microwave. She got five years, which seems excessive if her defense is true (any term seems excessive if her defense is true), and woefully inadequate if it is not true. (Some folks are of the mind that that puny sentence was incentive to C.A. to do a copy-cat. However, I would be given to think that although one might get an idea of how to off a baby by reading such (as in the summer that several kids just so happened to all climb into the trunks of their respective families’ cars and suffocate there), it seems unlikely that the minimal sentence would logically influence such without a similar circumstance.

    I always find it interesting when anyone suggests someone leave, rather than respond to what s/he has to say. I have no desire to start a blog on bad parents, and since you have invited commentary on yours, I would hope that would include commentary that is not necessarily in agreement with your viewpoint, or with that of other posters.

    ~KRO

  63. My followup is here.

    And you’re right – dissent is cool. Sorry for coming across so adamantly. I get fired up sometimes. 🙂

  64. My followup is here.

    And you’re right – dissent is cool. Sorry for coming across so adamantly. I get fired up sometimes. 🙂

  65. Zero Boss,

    Your follow-up is a lot better. I’ll rescind my nomination of you as the Worst Parent of 2006. It occurs to me that if I don’t agree that unconvicted people should be nominated, I shouldn’t be doing the same thing (talk about projection)!

    Life would be incredibly dull without dissent.

    ~KRO

  66. Zero Boss,

    Your follow-up is a lot better. I’ll rescind my nomination of you as the Worst Parent of 2006. It occurs to me that if I don’t agree that unconvicted people should be nominated, I shouldn’t be doing the same thing (talk about projection)!

    Life would be incredibly dull without dissent.

    ~KRO

  67. I wish people had better things to do with there time. instead of pointing fingers, lets talk about some things we can do to make sure things like this dont happened!

  68. I wish people had better things to do with there time. instead of pointing fingers, lets talk about some things we can do to make sure things like this dont happened!

  69. Eva…I have an idea on how to make sure that things like this “don’t happened”. How about the concept of thinning the herd. How about we stop trying to rationalize things like this and just eliminate the people who commit these types of crimes? Sort of, cleanse the gene pool (someone, somewhere, is screaming eugenics…well I don’t give a shit). First of all If this woman did indeed microwave her baby…no question about it…she’s a fucking maniac. But I truly see no point in studying her, helping her, or using her situation to help others. I just don’t think it’ll work. I understand that mental illness makes people do some crazy shit…but I don’t think they should be exempt from judgement or punishment. Just a thought…if we remove violent criminals from society (either by death, sterilization, or imprisionment) maybe in a few generations we will see a dramatic decrease in violent crimes. I’m not trying to be a Hitler…but dammit nothing else seems to be working. Okay sorry to soapbox…but I think it’s a question worth debating.

  70. Eva…I have an idea on how to make sure that things like this “don’t happened”. How about the concept of thinning the herd. How about we stop trying to rationalize things like this and just eliminate the people who commit these types of crimes? Sort of, cleanse the gene pool (someone, somewhere, is screaming eugenics…well I don’t give a shit). First of all If this woman did indeed microwave her baby…no question about it…she’s a fucking maniac. But I truly see no point in studying her, helping her, or using her situation to help others. I just don’t think it’ll work. I understand that mental illness makes people do some crazy shit…but I don’t think they should be exempt from judgement or punishment. Just a thought…if we remove violent criminals from society (either by death, sterilization, or imprisionment) maybe in a few generations we will see a dramatic decrease in violent crimes. I’m not trying to be a Hitler…but dammit nothing else seems to be working. Okay sorry to soapbox…but I think it’s a question worth debating.

  71. I have no word to describe this

  72. I have no word to describe this

  73. i did 10 days with her. ate, slept, and spent all day practially next to her in a dorm where she is with normal population. she was one of the only people who gave me envelopes to write home. she has three other kids who she desperately loves. she was nice. although we didn’t talk about it….
    she loved her baby. it was her first girl. they didn’t even arrest her until close to a year or over a year later! her boyfriend beat the hell out of her on a regular basis. he was very violent. i’m telling yall.. quit pointing fingers. no one knows anything yet.

  74. i did 10 days with her. ate, slept, and spent all day practially next to her in a dorm where she is with normal population. she was one of the only people who gave me envelopes to write home. she has three other kids who she desperately loves. she was nice. although we didn’t talk about it….
    she loved her baby. it was her first girl. they didn’t even arrest her until close to a year or over a year later! her boyfriend beat the hell out of her on a regular basis. he was very violent. i’m telling yall.. quit pointing fingers. no one knows anything yet.

  75. china is my childhood friend. and i know there is no possible way she would do that so yall need to let the jury point the finger

  76. china is my childhood friend. and i know there is no possible way she would do that so yall need to let the jury point the finger

  77. I have know china most of my life until i left the dayton area, and i have never thought her to be gulity. I am also the son of a chief of police of a village in the dayton area. and even he believes that things don’t add up. china was never agressive toward anything in school. so to those of you pointing fingers need to sit back and gather facts before stating she is guilty. remeber there have been numerous people charged with crimes and found innocent. then the real killer being found so sit back and wait.

  78. I have know china most of my life until i left the dayton area, and i have never thought her to be gulity. I am also the son of a chief of police of a village in the dayton area. and even he believes that things don’t add up. china was never agressive toward anything in school. so to those of you pointing fingers need to sit back and gather facts before stating she is guilty. remeber there have been numerous people charged with crimes and found innocent. then the real killer being found so sit back and wait.

  79. You can make all the excuses you want, but i’m sorry… when you’re a mother and you have an infant in your care… you DON’T GET DRUNK! That’s how bad things happen. Anyone who reads this that has ever been drunk knows that you get stupid, confused, clumsy, etc. when you’re drunk, and it is utterly discusting that this woman chose to intoxicate herself while caring for an infant child. Take the microwave out of the situation… what if she had been drunk, stumbled, and dropped the kid on its head and broken its neck? What the hell coudl she possibly have been thinking getting drunk with her baby in her care? People like this should be steralized and never be allowed near children again. There’s too many unfit mothers having sex and reproducing by accident and on purpose, and its destroying our children… Another example is the child in Houston who was sitting on the floor of a Minivan with no child seat or seat belt and the teenagers around her were joking (so they say) about giving her ecstacy… WTF is wrong with these mothers?

  80. You can make all the excuses you want, but i’m sorry… when you’re a mother and you have an infant in your care… you DON’T GET DRUNK! That’s how bad things happen. Anyone who reads this that has ever been drunk knows that you get stupid, confused, clumsy, etc. when you’re drunk, and it is utterly discusting that this woman chose to intoxicate herself while caring for an infant child. Take the microwave out of the situation… what if she had been drunk, stumbled, and dropped the kid on its head and broken its neck? What the hell coudl she possibly have been thinking getting drunk with her baby in her care? People like this should be steralized and never be allowed near children again. There’s too many unfit mothers having sex and reproducing by accident and on purpose, and its destroying our children… Another example is the child in Houston who was sitting on the floor of a Minivan with no child seat or seat belt and the teenagers around her were joking (so they say) about giving her ecstacy… WTF is wrong with these mothers?

  81. always the niggers! they are animals

  82. always the niggers! they are animals

  83. We can do real well without your disgusting racist comments, Jeff.

    As for the previous commenter complaining about her irresponsibility in being drunk: she got a baysitter and went out to have a good time. There is no law that bars parents from getting drunk, as if said parent arranged some one else to look after their children then they’re not risking anything other than the long-term health of their liver.

    Sounds like a lot of people want her to be guilty so they can focus their general feelings of violence and rage onto her with a clear conscience.

    Well, you need to take into account the fact that she already has three children – and there have no reports of them being harmed by her. And if she’s the awful person you describe that would put a baby in a microwave, why would she then take it out again and go to sleep with the baby in her arms? I don’t believe it. It’s more credible that it happened while she was out of the house and when she returned she just fed the baby without being alert enough to notice its injuries. That would be negligent, but it’s a far cry from murder.

    It’s pretty pathetic the way people want to leap to conclusions when the trial is only starting now and all the evidence has yet to come out. Most of you have proved your nothing but your lack of fitness to serve on a jury.

  84. We can do real well without your disgusting racist comments, Jeff.

    As for the previous commenter complaining about her irresponsibility in being drunk: she got a baysitter and went out to have a good time. There is no law that bars parents from getting drunk, as if said parent arranged some one else to look after their children then they’re not risking anything other than the long-term health of their liver.

    Sounds like a lot of people want her to be guilty so they can focus their general feelings of violence and rage onto her with a clear conscience.

    Well, you need to take into account the fact that she already has three children – and there have no reports of them being harmed by her. And if she’s the awful person you describe that would put a baby in a microwave, why would she then take it out again and go to sleep with the baby in her arms? I don’t believe it. It’s more credible that it happened while she was out of the house and when she returned she just fed the baby without being alert enough to notice its injuries. That would be negligent, but it’s a far cry from murder.

    It’s pretty pathetic the way people want to leap to conclusions when the trial is only starting now and all the evidence has yet to come out. Most of you have proved your nothing but your lack of fitness to serve on a jury.

  85. I don’t care rather China is innocent or guilty! I have not heard all of the facts, but if they waited that long they have to have some significant evidence. I don’t care who you are if your child is ever killed, because they were shoved into a microwave, you have to take some responsibility! It does not matter rather it is inadequate childcare, too much drugs or alcohol, or an abusive partner. It is still the parents’ (mother and father) responsibility to take care of their children’s well being! The only thing I care about is the poor child! It has nothing to do with race so Jeff needs to get a clue! If someone put my child into a microwave and killed him/her while I was out having a good time I would never be able to forgive myself. It would be neglectful for intrusting the wrong person!!!!!

  86. I don’t care rather China is innocent or guilty! I have not heard all of the facts, but if they waited that long they have to have some significant evidence. I don’t care who you are if your child is ever killed, because they were shoved into a microwave, you have to take some responsibility! It does not matter rather it is inadequate childcare, too much drugs or alcohol, or an abusive partner. It is still the parents’ (mother and father) responsibility to take care of their children’s well being! The only thing I care about is the poor child! It has nothing to do with race so Jeff needs to get a clue! If someone put my child into a microwave and killed him/her while I was out having a good time I would never be able to forgive myself. It would be neglectful for intrusting the wrong person!!!!!

  87. 3csmom i agree with your opionion just imagine how china is feeling right now in the county jail. shes grieving, shocked, scared, and everything else. imagine having a baby by someone u thought loved and cared about you. can u imagine this happened to your child, not the microwave, but just an accident where u lose your baby to something tragic, and the childs father is pointing the finger at you (even though he was there that night). Thats what Terrell Talley did to China Arnold. he’s free and his babys mamma is facing the death penalty for a crime she possibly didnt commit. Talk about love. That right there has me in an uproar over this case. there is no physical evidence that connects china to her babys murder but there are statements (from the father and babysitter). if the prosecutor is relying on their statement to convict china then really they don’t have case.

  88. 3csmom i agree with your opionion just imagine how china is feeling right now in the county jail. shes grieving, shocked, scared, and everything else. imagine having a baby by someone u thought loved and cared about you. can u imagine this happened to your child, not the microwave, but just an accident where u lose your baby to something tragic, and the childs father is pointing the finger at you (even though he was there that night). Thats what Terrell Talley did to China Arnold. he’s free and his babys mamma is facing the death penalty for a crime she possibly didnt commit. Talk about love. That right there has me in an uproar over this case. there is no physical evidence that connects china to her babys murder but there are statements (from the father and babysitter). if the prosecutor is relying on their statement to convict china then really they don’t have case.

  89. you never know what a person is going through until you’ve actually been in there shoes. thats y u should never judge others. Let God be the judge. He will uncover the truth in this case i can feel it and i’m a firm believer that whats done in the dark will come to light.

  90. you never know what a person is going through until you’ve actually been in there shoes. thats y u should never judge others. Let God be the judge. He will uncover the truth in this case i can feel it and i’m a firm believer that whats done in the dark will come to light.

  91. Just when I think the stories on this site couldn’t be any more disturbing I run into this one in the archive. OMG. EWW.

  92. Just when I think the stories on this site couldn’t be any more disturbing I run into this one in the archive. OMG. EWW.

  93. I never thought Sears Parts are used to kill! What was in her mind?

  94. I never thought Sears Parts are used to kill! What was in her mind?

  95. I happen to know China Arnold personally, I knew her as a teen and in to her early adult life… I actually introduced China to her first childrens Father namend Steven of her two boys Sirus and Steven. I happen to know China as being a bit of a drama queen, but nothing more. China was never a violent individual as far as I knew. She and I did everything together, from swimming, sleepovers, haqnging at the Dayton mall looking for boys as do teens. I spent a lot of my child hood days with her, and happen to know that she was a loving outgoing, fun, smart, and PREPPY Westcarrolton girl. It wasnt untill she moved out on her own to Parkside that I started seeing her out in places hanging out Down town Dayton with some small crowds of friends, we spoke here and there but just wasnt the same… we eventually lost all contact for almost 8 or 9 years, and then one day I get a phone call saying from my best friend Jessica, (who is chinas first childs fathers cousine) that she was arrested for killing her baby, but at that time they did not know how the baby died for sure. Then she was released, and ended up going back once they put their case together. I remember shortly after her arrest, I happened to be on the date line and ended up meeting a man who happened to be in Parkside located in Dayton. We talked for a while and ended up talking about our lives and such, he sounded normal. any how, I talked ended up asking him if he had kids. He said, I had a Daughter. But she died. I said aw, I am so sorry, when did this happen? He said a few weeks ago… he did not talk about the incident like it just happened, nor did he seem to be mourning ofr is daughters death, laughing at something in the back ground, asking his friend to hand him a blunt… etc. he just seemed like he was talking about someone elses child otnher than his own, so I started to doubt him, then I dropped the subject and he began to offer me more info. He bagan to tell me that him and his girl had just had a fight about the baby, that they faught often about the baby, and he expressed to me that he didnt even belioeve tha baby was his because she was light and that he thought the baby ws bi racial and that he was dark complected. Then he also said that he doesnt know wht happened, that they had went out drinking annd the baby was at the sitter, then he said they faught all night, and that when they got home the baby was brought back asllep if i can remember right. and then he told me that he left back out after china passed out on the couch, and that when he left his baby was in the car seat and when he returned the baby ws on the couch or something, again this is what I recall, so dont quote me on this… but that he returned later and found the baby not breathing, and came to China and said, I dont know what happened! And they rushed the baby to the hosspital. Then I was thinking to my self ths story sounds familiar, ans so I asked him what happened to his baby he said I dont know I think she was burned! Then he said I am the one that was on the news, with China… that is when I made him aware that I had known China since we were young teens, and decided to end the conversation with him at that time, and never called him back, I think his name was Demitrius, but I am not 100% for sure.

  96. I happen to know China Arnold personally, I knew her as a teen and in to her early adult life… I actually introduced China to her first childrens Father namend Steven of her two boys Sirus and Steven. I happen to know China as being a bit of a drama queen, but nothing more. China was never a violent individual as far as I knew. She and I did everything together, from swimming, sleepovers, haqnging at the Dayton mall looking for boys as do teens. I spent a lot of my child hood days with her, and happen to know that she was a loving outgoing, fun, smart, and PREPPY Westcarrolton girl. It wasnt untill she moved out on her own to Parkside that I started seeing her out in places hanging out Down town Dayton with some small crowds of friends, we spoke here and there but just wasnt the same… we eventually lost all contact for almost 8 or 9 years, and then one day I get a phone call saying from my best friend Jessica, (who is chinas first childs fathers cousine) that she was arrested for killing her baby, but at that time they did not know how the baby died for sure. Then she was released, and ended up going back once they put their case together. I remember shortly after her arrest, I happened to be on the date line and ended up meeting a man who happened to be in Parkside located in Dayton. We talked for a while and ended up talking about our lives and such, he sounded normal. any how, I talked ended up asking him if he had kids. He said, I had a Daughter. But she died. I said aw, I am so sorry, when did this happen? He said a few weeks ago… he did not talk about the incident like it just happened, nor did he seem to be mourning ofr is daughters death, laughing at something in the back ground, asking his friend to hand him a blunt… etc. he just seemed like he was talking about someone elses child otnher than his own, so I started to doubt him, then I dropped the subject and he began to offer me more info. He bagan to tell me that him and his girl had just had a fight about the baby, that they faught often about the baby, and he expressed to me that he didnt even belioeve tha baby was his because she was light and that he thought the baby ws bi racial and that he was dark complected. Then he also said that he doesnt know wht happened, that they had went out drinking annd the baby was at the sitter, then he said they faught all night, and that when they got home the baby was brought back asllep if i can remember right. and then he told me that he left back out after china passed out on the couch, and that when he left his baby was in the car seat and when he returned the baby ws on the couch or something, again this is what I recall, so dont quote me on this… but that he returned later and found the baby not breathing, and came to China and said, I dont know what happened! And they rushed the baby to the hosspital. Then I was thinking to my self ths story sounds familiar, ans so I asked him what happened to his baby he said I dont know I think she was burned! Then he said I am the one that was on the news, with China… that is when I made him aware that I had known China since we were young teens, and decided to end the conversation with him at that time, and never called him back, I think his name was Demitrius, but I am not 100% for sure.

  97. I agree NEVERJUDGE because in all honestly this is such a horrific crime, there was a lot of pressure on the dept to find her guilty, when actually there were two to three people around that baby that night. I just dont see China doing it, mabe it is because I have known her for like14 yrs, and know what kind of girl she was, but lets waight for the trial, and see before we judge her, remember she has not been convicted yet, theres always a possibility that new info may come to light and I am thinking of calling John Rion My self and telling him what I know to see if that may be of any concern to them. The police are not going to look for any one else, the dont want people to think they are unsure of who did it, I just hope that if she did do it, she gets what she gets, but if shes innocent, that god interveins and that they discover who the real sicko is!!!

  98. I agree NEVERJUDGE because in all honestly this is such a horrific crime, there was a lot of pressure on the dept to find her guilty, when actually there were two to three people around that baby that night. I just dont see China doing it, mabe it is because I have known her for like14 yrs, and know what kind of girl she was, but lets waight for the trial, and see before we judge her, remember she has not been convicted yet, theres always a possibility that new info may come to light and I am thinking of calling John Rion My self and telling him what I know to see if that may be of any concern to them. The police are not going to look for any one else, the dont want people to think they are unsure of who did it, I just hope that if she did do it, she gets what she gets, but if shes innocent, that god interveins and that they discover who the real sicko is!!!

  99. thanks for the reminder NEVERJUDGE… His name was Terrel, and not Demitrius, I think that ws another guy she dated at one point.

  100. thanks for the reminder NEVERJUDGE… His name was Terrel, and not Demitrius, I think that ws another guy she dated at one point.

  101. And for that guy who made that comment about Niggers… let me tell you something, white people do crazy things too, I actually never heard of a story this bad pertaining to a bllack person… but theres always a first. but I will be like everyone else and ignore that dumb comment it just shows how dumb you are.

  102. And for that guy who made that comment about Niggers… let me tell you something, white people do crazy things too, I actually never heard of a story this bad pertaining to a bllack person… but theres always a first. but I will be like everyone else and ignore that dumb comment it just shows how dumb you are.

  103. I don’t care what color she is. She could be bright orange with purple stripes for all I care that still does not change the fact that she killed her child. It’s not like it was even murder. She put the baby in a microwave. Like a bag of popcorn. How do you do that? For pete’s sake. Someone had to have heard that baby screaming for it’s life. This is beyond sick and inhuman. I am so tired of hearing about parents killing thier kids. If you don’t want the baby for whatever reason (usually selfish ones) take it to your local fire dept. Leave that baby at home and call the police and tell them hey I think there is a baby at such and such address. Take them to the emergency room at a hospital. LIE ABOUT IT!! Tell them you found the baby in a car seat by the dumpster at your apartment complex. Whatever your excuse it just please stop hurting the babies. For once doing something decent and let the baby live. That child did nothing to that women for her to put them in the friggin microwave.

  104. I don’t care what color she is. She could be bright orange with purple stripes for all I care that still does not change the fact that she killed her child. It’s not like it was even murder. She put the baby in a microwave. Like a bag of popcorn. How do you do that? For pete’s sake. Someone had to have heard that baby screaming for it’s life. This is beyond sick and inhuman. I am so tired of hearing about parents killing thier kids. If you don’t want the baby for whatever reason (usually selfish ones) take it to your local fire dept. Leave that baby at home and call the police and tell them hey I think there is a baby at such and such address. Take them to the emergency room at a hospital. LIE ABOUT IT!! Tell them you found the baby in a car seat by the dumpster at your apartment complex. Whatever your excuse it just please stop hurting the babies. For once doing something decent and let the baby live. That child did nothing to that women for her to put them in the friggin microwave.

  105. first of all no one said you cared what color she is…No one even knows who you are nor do es any one care either… so why would you make a statement like that? personally you sound silly because you are like all these other robots on here and what if some else did it, and we are aall sitting here like Jk asses pointing our finger at one person, when there were three people with the child that night!! Or is it because shes the mother, and we are so used to juging people who arere charged way before they are convicted?? do you not believe in our justice system that says you are innocent untill proven guilty????? What if you were accused of a crime you know you did not commit, and there were three other possibles, you people didnt even know her and your pointing your fingers at here like a bunch of know it alls… like you were present during the incident!!! Like you were an Eye Witnness and saw it all through the apartment window huh??!!! lol, you all crack me up seriously! there is always a know it all in every one of these groups, that is why I posted what I did, to give some real insight to a bunch of people who dont know squat a bout nothin except what they see on the news ! Waight till the trial is over before you all start playing God and Judging something again you all have know Idea who it was! Granit yes as I said… unless you didnt read that part either… she should not have been drunk around her child, nor should the dad who knew this left her like that after China passed out, how ever if you know the real facts instead of only going by what you hear , you would know that again, china’s babys dad Terrell, did not believe for one moment of that childs life that that was his baby! Period, I know this because I heard it, then when I met him and he told me the story, he told me himself that he did not believe that the baby was his because she appeared to be mixed! And he did not appear to be greiving if you must know, he was rather enjoying his conversation with me… and once I told him who I was, and that I am an old friend of chinas he still tried to persue me… which means, his child is dead… his girlfriend is a suspect, and he is out smokin weed hollarin at girls and actin like nothin ever happened! Still not claiming the baby that ws his that died at possibly his… possibly her hands!??? Think about it! YOu all have no idea about this case at all, you all have nothing to say… so do me a favor and seal your judgement al lips untill the trial is over. Because one day you are gonna be judged also! think about it!!

  106. first of all no one said you cared what color she is…No one even knows who you are nor do es any one care either… so why would you make a statement like that? personally you sound silly because you are like all these other robots on here and what if some else did it, and we are aall sitting here like Jk asses pointing our finger at one person, when there were three people with the child that night!! Or is it because shes the mother, and we are so used to juging people who arere charged way before they are convicted?? do you not believe in our justice system that says you are innocent untill proven guilty????? What if you were accused of a crime you know you did not commit, and there were three other possibles, you people didnt even know her and your pointing your fingers at here like a bunch of know it alls… like you were present during the incident!!! Like you were an Eye Witnness and saw it all through the apartment window huh??!!! lol, you all crack me up seriously! there is always a know it all in every one of these groups, that is why I posted what I did, to give some real insight to a bunch of people who dont know squat a bout nothin except what they see on the news ! Waight till the trial is over before you all start playing God and Judging something again you all have know Idea who it was! Granit yes as I said… unless you didnt read that part either… she should not have been drunk around her child, nor should the dad who knew this left her like that after China passed out, how ever if you know the real facts instead of only going by what you hear , you would know that again, china’s babys dad Terrell, did not believe for one moment of that childs life that that was his baby! Period, I know this because I heard it, then when I met him and he told me the story, he told me himself that he did not believe that the baby was his because she appeared to be mixed! And he did not appear to be greiving if you must know, he was rather enjoying his conversation with me… and once I told him who I was, and that I am an old friend of chinas he still tried to persue me… which means, his child is dead… his girlfriend is a suspect, and he is out smokin weed hollarin at girls and actin like nothin ever happened! Still not claiming the baby that ws his that died at possibly his… possibly her hands!??? Think about it! YOu all have no idea about this case at all, you all have nothing to say… so do me a favor and seal your judgement al lips untill the trial is over. Because one day you are gonna be judged also! think about it!!

  107. Oh and also FYI, China has 3 other children whom she has never harmed all by a different guy than this one, and hello they are alive and well, and all different ages, and have never been injured I happen to been with their father yesterday, he is the one who is the first babys dad… He is White… the new babys dad… which by the way has abused china over the period of their relationship thought that her first childs father… Steven…(my friend) Was the father of the baby that died! I knkow it is confusing, but hey… these are facts! Like I said if you all knew half of the story… you would think about the father too! The reason he is not in there with her, is because china was intoxicated and did not remeber much about the previous night and he took advantage of that, not too mention his sister to back him, and they always blame the mom… for what ever reason china is the one they blamed with no scientific evidence, no witnesses, not nothing!! Just the fathers testiomony against a loving mother of 4 and and a daughter he did not even believe was his at all in the first place!!!!!!!

  108. Oh and also FYI, China has 3 other children whom she has never harmed all by a different guy than this one, and hello they are alive and well, and all different ages, and have never been injured I happen to been with their father yesterday, he is the one who is the first babys dad… He is White… the new babys dad… which by the way has abused china over the period of their relationship thought that her first childs father… Steven…(my friend) Was the father of the baby that died! I knkow it is confusing, but hey… these are facts! Like I said if you all knew half of the story… you would think about the father too! The reason he is not in there with her, is because china was intoxicated and did not remeber much about the previous night and he took advantage of that, not too mention his sister to back him, and they always blame the mom… for what ever reason china is the one they blamed with no scientific evidence, no witnesses, not nothing!! Just the fathers testiomony against a loving mother of 4 and and a daughter he did not even believe was his at all in the first place!!!!!!!

  109. I said that I did not care what color she is. You are the one bringing up the color issue. Stating that the first babies dad is white. Who cares? Not to mention WHY IN THE HELL DID HE LEAVE HER THERE WITH A BABY PASSED OUT? What kind of people does she associate with? Sure right maybe she did not do it. Anyone who was in that apartment is responsible for that baby. Her, the other 2, and Terrell. I am under the impression that she has her other children in her home. So that makes it 4 children that were in harms way. Someone could have come in and killed every single one of them that night. It does not really matter what made her pass out. She should have been more responsible with what she was doing and thought about her children first. She must have been really messed up to miss A CHILD FRYING IN HER MICROWAVE!! I will bet my life that baby was screaming for its little life. What kind of community does she live in? I am sure the neighbors heard the baby screaming or does she just so happen to live by people who fry babies or beat kids on a normal basis? Either way she was in the house and she AND EVERYONE ELSE PRESENT ARE responsible for the baby. I am not and I will not ever say that she does not or did not love her kids. I know I will be judged one day. I already have been.

  110. I said that I did not care what color she is. You are the one bringing up the color issue. Stating that the first babies dad is white. Who cares? Not to mention WHY IN THE HELL DID HE LEAVE HER THERE WITH A BABY PASSED OUT? What kind of people does she associate with? Sure right maybe she did not do it. Anyone who was in that apartment is responsible for that baby. Her, the other 2, and Terrell. I am under the impression that she has her other children in her home. So that makes it 4 children that were in harms way. Someone could have come in and killed every single one of them that night. It does not really matter what made her pass out. She should have been more responsible with what she was doing and thought about her children first. She must have been really messed up to miss A CHILD FRYING IN HER MICROWAVE!! I will bet my life that baby was screaming for its little life. What kind of community does she live in? I am sure the neighbors heard the baby screaming or does she just so happen to live by people who fry babies or beat kids on a normal basis? Either way she was in the house and she AND EVERYONE ELSE PRESENT ARE responsible for the baby. I am not and I will not ever say that she does not or did not love her kids. I know I will be judged one day. I already have been.

  111. sweet heart you need to find something better to do, I was responding to an idiot on here who made a nigger comment so be gone or kick rocks or something… and the reason why I brought up her first childrens father… who was not there to correct you again… is because I ws explaining why it coud have been the black father who did it b cuz he did not believe the baby was his becuz it was light complected… if you are gonna read what I wrote and comment on what i wrote, then make sure you are capable of comprehending a complete paragraph, not just parts… or is that how you got by in school, skimming the paragraph… or reading the entire thing so you can fully understand what the hell is being said… your next direct comment to me will be ignored because I have determined you are unable to comprehend what I am sayin… and you obviously didnt read my earlier comments where I said if she did do it she deserves to get what she gets… but we can not sit here with nothing really to go on and the trial hasnt even begun and sit and say that she is the one that did it!!! Hello…..

  112. sweet heart you need to find something better to do, I was responding to an idiot on here who made a nigger comment so be gone or kick rocks or something… and the reason why I brought up her first childrens father… who was not there to correct you again… is because I ws explaining why it coud have been the black father who did it b cuz he did not believe the baby was his becuz it was light complected… if you are gonna read what I wrote and comment on what i wrote, then make sure you are capable of comprehending a complete paragraph, not just parts… or is that how you got by in school, skimming the paragraph… or reading the entire thing so you can fully understand what the hell is being said… your next direct comment to me will be ignored because I have determined you are unable to comprehend what I am sayin… and you obviously didnt read my earlier comments where I said if she did do it she deserves to get what she gets… but we can not sit here with nothing really to go on and the trial hasnt even begun and sit and say that she is the one that did it!!! Hello…..

  113. aside from ms know it all does any one who personally knew CHINA, HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS…

  114. aside from ms know it all does any one who personally knew CHINA, HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS…

  115. First of all for those who don’t know her I do, every time I saw china she had her kids with her. Her kids don’t live with they father they are with her mother now because china has to deal with bullshit like this. She did not kill her baby I know in my heart she didn’t. She didn’t even give the kids little pats on the butt. let alone would she harm her first girl out of 3 boys. She always came to family reunions with those boys saying she couldn’t wait to have that girl. I just wont to know what about that boyfriend. As far as I know he has a autistic brother who could had been left with the baby. Don’t no body want to put that shit out there. why, because the brother’s autistic. I just know that she didn’t do it. But if you ask me i think it’s between that boyfriend and and his sibblings. I know that when the trial comes up China Arnold’s will be innocent. I’m sorry for what i’m about to say but to me it seems true if not then prove me wrong. How come people are so quick to give her the death penalty but not Elizabeth Renee Otte. There is still racial shit going on here but who really cares. Black people still get charged more for the same or similar crimes than white people.

  116. First of all for those who don’t know her I do, every time I saw china she had her kids with her. Her kids don’t live with they father they are with her mother now because china has to deal with bullshit like this. She did not kill her baby I know in my heart she didn’t. She didn’t even give the kids little pats on the butt. let alone would she harm her first girl out of 3 boys. She always came to family reunions with those boys saying she couldn’t wait to have that girl. I just wont to know what about that boyfriend. As far as I know he has a autistic brother who could had been left with the baby. Don’t no body want to put that shit out there. why, because the brother’s autistic. I just know that she didn’t do it. But if you ask me i think it’s between that boyfriend and and his sibblings. I know that when the trial comes up China Arnold’s will be innocent. I’m sorry for what i’m about to say but to me it seems true if not then prove me wrong. How come people are so quick to give her the death penalty but not Elizabeth Renee Otte. There is still racial shit going on here but who really cares. Black people still get charged more for the same or similar crimes than white people.

  117. Black people still get charged more for the same or similar crimes than white people.

    I apologize but, I thought race was not an issue here? Someone killed that innocent baby. Whoever it was deserves to rot and they will rot. Elizabeth Renee Otte deserves to die and rot in the flames of hell but, that case right there goes to show how the criminal justice system fails innocent lives all the time.

    There is man right now in Mississippi who is a free walking convicted rapist. Who cares right? Rapists walk free all the time. He sodomized a child under the age of 14 with himself and other various objects, let others do whatever they felt like doing to her. The type of rape he commited on that child is to carry nothing less then the death penalty. Then 4 years later he did it again. HE IS A FREE MAN!! WALKING AROUND EVERYDAY AND NOT CARING!!

    What about that women who drowned all her children in the bath tub? She is spending the rest of her life locked away. My apologizes on not remembering her name. There was a women not to long ago who killed her ex-boyfriends current fiance. She went to his home stabbed her 3 children and cut the baby out of his pregeant fiance and left. WITH THE BABY!! She is not rotting in prison.

    The facts remain the facts. Someone stuffed that baby in the mircrowave and hit start. I am still sickened that NO ONE heard that baby screaming for its life. There is a HUGE difference when a baby cries becasue they are hungary and want attention then when a baby cries becasue they are hurt or being hurt!!

  118. Black people still get charged more for the same or similar crimes than white people.

    I apologize but, I thought race was not an issue here? Someone killed that innocent baby. Whoever it was deserves to rot and they will rot. Elizabeth Renee Otte deserves to die and rot in the flames of hell but, that case right there goes to show how the criminal justice system fails innocent lives all the time.

    There is man right now in Mississippi who is a free walking convicted rapist. Who cares right? Rapists walk free all the time. He sodomized a child under the age of 14 with himself and other various objects, let others do whatever they felt like doing to her. The type of rape he commited on that child is to carry nothing less then the death penalty. Then 4 years later he did it again. HE IS A FREE MAN!! WALKING AROUND EVERYDAY AND NOT CARING!!

    What about that women who drowned all her children in the bath tub? She is spending the rest of her life locked away. My apologizes on not remembering her name. There was a women not to long ago who killed her ex-boyfriends current fiance. She went to his home stabbed her 3 children and cut the baby out of his pregeant fiance and left. WITH THE BABY!! She is not rotting in prison.

    The facts remain the facts. Someone stuffed that baby in the mircrowave and hit start. I am still sickened that NO ONE heard that baby screaming for its life. There is a HUGE difference when a baby cries becasue they are hungary and want attention then when a baby cries becasue they are hurt or being hurt!!

  119. Here’s an update: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22938677/

    She’s gone to trial and her lawyer is actually arguing that she didn’t mean to do it because she was too drunk that night. So it’s OK to nuke your baby if you’ve had one too many?

    Happily, one of her former cell mates is ratting her out. Here’s to hoping this bitch rots in prison for the rest of her miserable life.

    Oh and Autymn, my belief that she should go to hell for what’s she’s done has NOTHING to do with her race. I’d want her punished for the monster she is no matter WHAT color she was. Evil is evil and it comes in all shapes, sizes, colors and nationalities.

  120. Here’s an update: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22938677/

    She’s gone to trial and her lawyer is actually arguing that she didn’t mean to do it because she was too drunk that night. So it’s OK to nuke your baby if you’ve had one too many?

    Happily, one of her former cell mates is ratting her out. Here’s to hoping this bitch rots in prison for the rest of her miserable life.

    Oh and Autymn, my belief that she should go to hell for what’s she’s done has NOTHING to do with her race. I’d want her punished for the monster she is no matter WHAT color she was. Evil is evil and it comes in all shapes, sizes, colors and nationalities.

  121. And for the record, I believe Elizabeth Otte will be occupying the same toasty room in hell as China Arnold. She may have gotten away with murdering her baby here, but she’ll surely pay for it in the next world.

  122. And for the record, I believe Elizabeth Otte will be occupying the same toasty room in hell as China Arnold. She may have gotten away with murdering her baby here, but she’ll surely pay for it in the next world.

  123. That’s if she did it. Who’s to say someone is putting that cellmate up to it no one is thinking about that. I’m not saying we as mothers or people are the ones with racial issues i’m saying the government. The ones who are in charge of all of the things we do. I have a son and i work with children so I have no problem with kids. I’m just saying she still has three boys who are going to be needing her so there shouldn’t be any death penalty. Why use her as the example? Yeah she’s family so of course I would believe she is innocent and that’s me. I will believe until she says she did it in her own words.

  124. That’s if she did it. Who’s to say someone is putting that cellmate up to it no one is thinking about that. I’m not saying we as mothers or people are the ones with racial issues i’m saying the government. The ones who are in charge of all of the things we do. I have a son and i work with children so I have no problem with kids. I’m just saying she still has three boys who are going to be needing her so there shouldn’t be any death penalty. Why use her as the example? Yeah she’s family so of course I would believe she is innocent and that’s me. I will believe until she says she did it in her own words.

  125. At this point in time I am so sickened by the fact that NO ONE IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD IS WILLING TO COME FORWARD AND SAY THAT THEY HEARD THAT BABY SCREAMING AND DID NOTHING!! NOT A FREAKIN THING!! Ever since I have read this story, and it could just be the pregancey hormones, I have woke up with nightmares of hearing children screaming and the smell of burning flesh. I could not imagine waking up and seeing my precious baby girl dead or seeing my son baked. I would not be able to live with myself knowing that I got so wasted that I could not hear someone hurting my hearts and souls. That is what my kids are to me my hearts and souls. Not matter if she did it or not she has to live with knowing that she choose to get wasted to the point of not even knowing what was happening to her own child!! HOW CAN YOU GET THAT MESSED UP TO NOT EVEN HEAR YOUR BABY SCREAMING??

  126. At this point in time I am so sickened by the fact that NO ONE IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD IS WILLING TO COME FORWARD AND SAY THAT THEY HEARD THAT BABY SCREAMING AND DID NOTHING!! NOT A FREAKIN THING!! Ever since I have read this story, and it could just be the pregancey hormones, I have woke up with nightmares of hearing children screaming and the smell of burning flesh. I could not imagine waking up and seeing my precious baby girl dead or seeing my son baked. I would not be able to live with myself knowing that I got so wasted that I could not hear someone hurting my hearts and souls. That is what my kids are to me my hearts and souls. Not matter if she did it or not she has to live with knowing that she choose to get wasted to the point of not even knowing what was happening to her own child!! HOW CAN YOU GET THAT MESSED UP TO NOT EVEN HEAR YOUR BABY SCREAMING??

  127. Okay My cousin is innocent and upcoming next month she WILL be acquitted on all charges. So on the behave on my family you would like to thank yall for the disrepectful comments and you should also remember never judge a book by its cover……

    RIP Paris N. Talley <—– Love ya honey!

  128. Okay My cousin is innocent and upcoming next month she WILL be acquitted on all charges. So on the behave on my family you would like to thank yall for the disrepectful comments and you should also remember never judge a book by its cover……

    RIP Paris N. Talley <—– Love ya honey!

  129. The only thing I could find on this was that a mistrial was declared back in February because a 5-year-old boy came forward and said he saw another child put Paris in the microwave. Has a new trial date been set?

    And since it’s a mother’s responsibility to protect her baby – and China has admitted she was drunk when this occurred – she’s responsible for this baby’s death one way or another. If she didn’t put Paris in the microwave, she sure as hell didn’t stop whoever DID do it – because she was too drunk.

    I might agree to a reduced prison sentence since she’d be guilty of gross negligence rather than murder, but I still think she shouldn’t be allowed in a position of responsibility for any children ever again. And I wouldn’t want to be her someday when she has to face her maker and explain how she let this happen to the precious baby He gave her.

  130. The only thing I could find on this was that a mistrial was declared back in February because a 5-year-old boy came forward and said he saw another child put Paris in the microwave. Has a new trial date been set?

    And since it’s a mother’s responsibility to protect her baby – and China has admitted she was drunk when this occurred – she’s responsible for this baby’s death one way or another. If she didn’t put Paris in the microwave, she sure as hell didn’t stop whoever DID do it – because she was too drunk.

    I might agree to a reduced prison sentence since she’d be guilty of gross negligence rather than murder, but I still think she shouldn’t be allowed in a position of responsibility for any children ever again. And I wouldn’t want to be her someday when she has to face her maker and explain how she let this happen to the precious baby He gave her.

  131. Well I am terrells girl now, and I know she did it…Yeah he was a cheater, but come on.. He is taking this very hard. The 5 year old was around many adults discussing their many opinions. He’s known to be an exaggerator.

  132. Well I am terrells girl now, and I know she did it…Yeah he was a cheater, but come on.. He is taking this very hard. The 5 year old was around many adults discussing their many opinions. He’s known to be an exaggerator.

  133. I find it odd that no one has mentioned the OTHER three children in this case. It’s hard to imagine an ADULT putting a baby into a microwave oven and turning it on, but I could ~easily~ see a young child doing it, especially with little to no parental supervision. I’d say if she does or did admit to doing it, she’s probably doing it to protect her other kids, so no one will think they did it. Also, you probably wouldn’t hear the baby screaming inside the microwave, I’m thinkin most are pretty well sealed and sound proof.

  134. I find it odd that no one has mentioned the OTHER three children in this case. It’s hard to imagine an ADULT putting a baby into a microwave oven and turning it on, but I could ~easily~ see a young child doing it, especially with little to no parental supervision. I’d say if she does or did admit to doing it, she’s probably doing it to protect her other kids, so no one will think they did it. Also, you probably wouldn’t hear the baby screaming inside the microwave, I’m thinkin most are pretty well sealed and sound proof.

  135. Oh, never mind, I just read the last two comments. Still, I find it pretty sad that I’m the only one who even thought of the other kids right off the bat. I mean didn’t it occur to *ANY* of you who were following this story? For me, it was the very first notion that popped into my head after reading the facts.

    Also, I realize all “yall” ghetto livin folk are liak not to edumacated ‘n such, but really, at least *TRY* and not stereotype your race. Personally if I were black I would feel downright ASHAMED of my heritage after reading so many of your posts (those claiming to be family and such).

  136. Oh, never mind, I just read the last two comments. Still, I find it pretty sad that I’m the only one who even thought of the other kids right off the bat. I mean didn’t it occur to *ANY* of you who were following this story? For me, it was the very first notion that popped into my head after reading the facts.

    Also, I realize all “yall” ghetto livin folk are liak not to edumacated ‘n such, but really, at least *TRY* and not stereotype your race. Personally if I were black I would feel downright ASHAMED of my heritage after reading so many of your posts (those claiming to be family and such).

  137. Oh and “Terrell’s girl”…he’s cheating on you too, Sunshine…yer just too damn stupid to realize when yer being led around like circuse monkey by a trained playa. You best hope that boy is wearin a condom, otherwise you might wind up in the same level of shit as the girl yer raggin on. Remember kids, if ya can’t feed ’em, don’t breed ’em.

  138. Oh and “Terrell’s girl”…he’s cheating on you too, Sunshine…yer just too damn stupid to realize when yer being led around like circuse monkey by a trained playa. You best hope that boy is wearin a condom, otherwise you might wind up in the same level of shit as the girl yer raggin on. Remember kids, if ya can’t feed ’em, don’t breed ’em.

  139. i don’t know how the fuck this happened.
    but i feel uncontrollably sad.
    that poor child…

  140. i don’t know how the fuck this happened.
    but i feel uncontrollably sad.
    that poor child…

  141. Loving_mom’s comments about parents in difficulty taking the child to ER – or abandoning them somewhere else – touched what seems to me to be the heart of the issue: how to stop parents killing their children. China Arnold has been convicted. She may or may not be guilty, but she’s been convicted. So let’s proceed on the premise that this topic is about parents killing their children.

    Why don’t we have a dedicated parents’ help line that will collect your child from you with the speed of an ambulance if you’re close to breaking point? Why must you choose between Social Services (and a possible fostering) and calling for help? There needs to be an avenue for parents who need impersonal and fast intervention NOW but don’t necessarily need their child taken away from them permanently. Psychiatric evaluation (and social services involvement) after a designated number of respite calls – two? three?

    Anyone who’s been a parent of a month-old baby can understand how emotions can surge, sometimes to the point of you not recognising yourself or your feelings. Something should be in place to aid those parents who do not come back from that place before violence is imminent. Knowing that you can put your baby in its crib, call a number and leave the room/house/whatever you need to do…might help. The rage that can arise with young children does not always permit you to get them to the ER, or even to pick them up to get them in the car.

    Solutions, not judgement.

  142. Loving_mom’s comments about parents in difficulty taking the child to ER – or abandoning them somewhere else – touched what seems to me to be the heart of the issue: how to stop parents killing their children. China Arnold has been convicted. She may or may not be guilty, but she’s been convicted. So let’s proceed on the premise that this topic is about parents killing their children.

    Why don’t we have a dedicated parents’ help line that will collect your child from you with the speed of an ambulance if you’re close to breaking point? Why must you choose between Social Services (and a possible fostering) and calling for help? There needs to be an avenue for parents who need impersonal and fast intervention NOW but don’t necessarily need their child taken away from them permanently. Psychiatric evaluation (and social services involvement) after a designated number of respite calls – two? three?

    Anyone who’s been a parent of a month-old baby can understand how emotions can surge, sometimes to the point of you not recognising yourself or your feelings. Something should be in place to aid those parents who do not come back from that place before violence is imminent. Knowing that you can put your baby in its crib, call a number and leave the room/house/whatever you need to do…might help. The rage that can arise with young children does not always permit you to get them to the ER, or even to pick them up to get them in the car.

    Solutions, not judgement.

  143. I think it could be a combination of factors that led this young woman of colour to do something like this. First, it is important to acknowledge that the mistreatment of women often also extends to children. The line of thinking that played a role in her taking this step – her fear that her boyfriend might find out that her baby wasn’t his, suggests that he was anything but an understanding or supportive person. Note that he also testified against her in court on the issue of whether the 8 year old boy was present at the time of the incident, and the court seems to have accepted his testimony without question. It sounds like she wasn’t in a healthy relationship with him emotionally to begin with. By that I mean that she did not feel safe. Safety is the key issue in this case, and her feeling of unsafety is mainly responsible for the act that she committed (if she committed it), and it is the sense of extreme vulnerability and distress that she was experiencing with regard to her relationship with her live-in boyfriend that made her panic. Why? Was she fearing rejection or violence from her boyfriend if the truth were revealed? Was it fear for her own safety that led her to do that or did she also fear her child’s safety? Was there already emotional or physical abuse or violence (to whatever degree) that she was experiencing with her live-in boyfriend before this happened? What is her own emotional history? Was she unhappy with her life? Was she experiencing feelings of isolation in addition to her sense of being unsafe in her relationship? Was she experiencing post-partum depression? Have the judge and the defense examined these questions? By convicting her of the murder of her child, the court is only reiterating the message given to her by a racist and sexist culture and that made her panicky enough to do something like this: that she is of very little or no worth. It is true considering the number of young women of colour who are incarcerated and executed in the States for child neglect or child murder each year that the lives of these young women of colour themselves seem to matter very little to the State or the society, whose mysogynistic treatment of these women is responsible for this situation in the first place. The direct impact of the court’s verdict for her would be that there really isn’t a safe space for her to turn to, and it would confirm her experiential belief that there never was one to begin with. She was a young mother of colour, who probably grew up with both racism and sexism directed against her. Women of colour are not valued, and they internalize the negative stereotypes that society directs against them. This results in a markedly low self-esteem, and recurring life-long doubts about their sense of self-worth which can sometimes spiral down rapidly into depression or extreme self-doubt. For a young mother to feel unsafe in regards to her own or her child’s well-being and then to kill the child shows the utter lack of support systems in place for her. I strongly urge that the defense should look into these points to build a stronger case that is sensitive to the reality of the matter. I also think that the defense should contact women’s law associations to see if they’d be able to offer her legal or other support. This verdict is an unforgivable failure of the system to respond with critical awareness and sensitivity to the realities of the lives of women of colour in the States. Please research more into the existence of precedents where the court / judges might have delivered judgments more thoughtfully and sensitively in similar cases pertaining to women/ mothers of colour.

  144. I think it could be a combination of factors that led this young woman of colour to do something like this. First, it is important to acknowledge that the mistreatment of women often also extends to children. The line of thinking that played a role in her taking this step – her fear that her boyfriend might find out that her baby wasn’t his, suggests that he was anything but an understanding or supportive person. Note that he also testified against her in court on the issue of whether the 8 year old boy was present at the time of the incident, and the court seems to have accepted his testimony without question. It sounds like she wasn’t in a healthy relationship with him emotionally to begin with. By that I mean that she did not feel safe. Safety is the key issue in this case, and her feeling of unsafety is mainly responsible for the act that she committed (if she committed it), and it is the sense of extreme vulnerability and distress that she was experiencing with regard to her relationship with her live-in boyfriend that made her panic. Why? Was she fearing rejection or violence from her boyfriend if the truth were revealed? Was it fear for her own safety that led her to do that or did she also fear her child’s safety? Was there already emotional or physical abuse or violence (to whatever degree) that she was experiencing with her live-in boyfriend before this happened? What is her own emotional history? Was she unhappy with her life? Was she experiencing feelings of isolation in addition to her sense of being unsafe in her relationship? Was she experiencing post-partum depression? Have the judge and the defense examined these questions? By convicting her of the murder of her child, the court is only reiterating the message given to her by a racist and sexist culture and that made her panicky enough to do something like this: that she is of very little or no worth. It is true considering the number of young women of colour who are incarcerated and executed in the States for child neglect or child murder each year that the lives of these young women of colour themselves seem to matter very little to the State or the society, whose mysogynistic treatment of these women is responsible for this situation in the first place. The direct impact of the court’s verdict for her would be that there really isn’t a safe space for her to turn to, and it would confirm her experiential belief that there never was one to begin with. She was a young mother of colour, who probably grew up with both racism and sexism directed against her. Women of colour are not valued, and they internalize the negative stereotypes that society directs against them. This results in a markedly low self-esteem, and recurring life-long doubts about their sense of self-worth which can sometimes spiral down rapidly into depression or extreme self-doubt. For a young mother to feel unsafe in regards to her own or her child’s well-being and then to kill the child shows the utter lack of support systems in place for her. I strongly urge that the defense should look into these points to build a stronger case that is sensitive to the reality of the matter. I also think that the defense should contact women’s law associations to see if they’d be able to offer her legal or other support. This verdict is an unforgivable failure of the system to respond with critical awareness and sensitivity to the realities of the lives of women of colour in the States. Please research more into the existence of precedents where the court / judges might have delivered judgments more thoughtfully and sensitively in similar cases pertaining to women/ mothers of colour.

  145. As regards previous racist, sexist, Christian and misogynistic comments on this blog, I request all to maintain a respectful tone.

    It is a young mother and a woman of colour’s life that is at stake, a person who by the accounts of all that knew her, seemed to be a good parent as well. As a woman of colour, I would like to extend my moral support to her and her family, and I believe in her, no matter who does or does not. Racism and sexism have very real effects on our lives. Thanks.

  146. As regards previous racist, sexist, Christian and misogynistic comments on this blog, I request all to maintain a respectful tone.

    It is a young mother and a woman of colour’s life that is at stake, a person who by the accounts of all that knew her, seemed to be a good parent as well. As a woman of colour, I would like to extend my moral support to her and her family, and I believe in her, no matter who does or does not. Racism and sexism have very real effects on our lives. Thanks.

  147. What can I say to this. I’m right there with loving_mom, very sickened at the thought of this baby screaming for her life and nobody doing a dam thing about it. I don’t know if China is guilty or not, she has been judged and convicted in an official court, and she will be judged again by her maker, so who am I to judge? At this point, I pray for her 3 other children, that they can live relatively normal lives after they find out what their mom did or was convicted of doing. God bless this little girl who passed away in such pain.

    1. i know this is late but i was looking through the archives and i just cant believe people are defending this birth vessel. unbelievable. im with loving mom and mom who cares. how horrible. no excuses people. she fucked up and killed her child in a most horrific way. that poor baby.

  148. What can I say to this. I’m right there with loving_mom, very sickened at the thought of this baby screaming for her life and nobody doing a dam thing about it. I don’t know if China is guilty or not, she has been judged and convicted in an official court, and she will be judged again by her maker, so who am I to judge? At this point, I pray for her 3 other children, that they can live relatively normal lives after they find out what their mom did or was convicted of doing. God bless this little girl who passed away in such pain.

    1. i know this is late but i was looking through the archives and i just cant believe people are defending this birth vessel. unbelievable. im with loving mom and mom who cares. how horrible. no excuses people. she fucked up and killed her child in a most horrific way. that poor baby.

  149. I cannot believe the comments posted here trying to assign a reason or excuse to this woman’s actions. No matter how abused one is, how poor, how afflicted, under pressure, exhausted or angry – there is NO excuse, reason or justification for putting your baby into a microwave and turning it on. NONE. End of story. End of argument.

    Anyone who commits such an act deserves to spend the rest of their days in prison, regardless of the color of their skin or any “extenuating” circumstances – like being abused or so drunk she didn’t know what she was doing. Life in prison will guarantee that she will never harm another child.

  150. I cannot believe the comments posted here trying to assign a reason or excuse to this woman’s actions. No matter how abused one is, how poor, how afflicted, under pressure, exhausted or angry – there is NO excuse, reason or justification for putting your baby into a microwave and turning it on. NONE. End of story. End of argument.

    Anyone who commits such an act deserves to spend the rest of their days in prison, regardless of the color of their skin or any “extenuating” circumstances – like being abused or so drunk she didn’t know what she was doing. Life in prison will guarantee that she will never harm another child.

  151. I would like to say that China did not kill that baby. I personally believe that the boyfriend or that little boy. There is still some information that we haven’t even heard yet. Trust me China did not do it but I have a couple of ideas of who did.
    Also to RELLSWIFE79 you got a lot of nerve trying to say that you know she did you don’t even know china let alone the man you claim your with so go mind your business.

  152. I would like to say that China did not kill that baby. I personally believe that the boyfriend or that little boy. There is still some information that we haven’t even heard yet. Trust me China did not do it but I have a couple of ideas of who did.
    Also to RELLSWIFE79 you got a lot of nerve trying to say that you know she did you don’t even know china let alone the man you claim your with so go mind your business.

  153. Hey, Autymn Cartwright, do you understand the concept of ‘GUILTY AS CHARGED”??? Guilty as sin, and facing the death penalty. We hope. I hope they fry her just like she fried her baby. Too bad what you think, Autymn, your opinion is not needed, justice is served.

  154. Hey, Autymn Cartwright, do you understand the concept of ‘GUILTY AS CHARGED”??? Guilty as sin, and facing the death penalty. We hope. I hope they fry her just like she fried her baby. Too bad what you think, Autymn, your opinion is not needed, justice is served.

  155. Oh shucks, life in prison. Oh well, maybe someone will take care of that little oversight while she’s serving time in prison. If she doesn’t burn now, she will for sure burn later when she goes to Hell.

  156. Oh shucks, life in prison. Oh well, maybe someone will take care of that little oversight while she’s serving time in prison. If she doesn’t burn now, she will for sure burn later when she goes to Hell.

  157. man yall don’t even know the half of it! My cousin is innocent and im not just sayin this because she is a relative. she has 3 boys and China was super happy when she had a girl. Idk but at first i was kind of on the verdict of thinking she did do it but young kids are testifying against this. It makes me sick to see the media calling her all these names and they dont even know the half of it. I see “Monster” killer, “creature”,…etc. and only a few understand what facts are. Don’t believe the media man im telling u. Her family is hurting deeply. she was given an unfair trial and no one cares. Im amazed to see my aunties and my cousins and my whole family still fighting for her case. That shows how much faith we have. My cousin is sitting in jail with no ones blood on her hands while that little boy gets to be free. it seems like society does’nt care who they put in jail and wether or not its going to occur again to someone elses poor child. The message is to just not get the story from the media man and that China is not a murderer. When me and my fam see this stuff right here it’s like a dart to the heart. China use to have so much energy and personality and now when i see her i don’t eben know who im looking at because she is so lst and hurt and lonely. I wish yall could feel what my family is going through,specially my little cousins (her sons) then yall would understand. It’s crazy that I’m 16 but im more opened minded than all of you. Im so tired of this. i just want a miracle for my family. And rells wifey? trik please man u so ignorant.

  158. man yall don’t even know the half of it! My cousin is innocent and im not just sayin this because she is a relative. she has 3 boys and China was super happy when she had a girl. Idk but at first i was kind of on the verdict of thinking she did do it but young kids are testifying against this. It makes me sick to see the media calling her all these names and they dont even know the half of it. I see “Monster” killer, “creature”,…etc. and only a few understand what facts are. Don’t believe the media man im telling u. Her family is hurting deeply. she was given an unfair trial and no one cares. Im amazed to see my aunties and my cousins and my whole family still fighting for her case. That shows how much faith we have. My cousin is sitting in jail with no ones blood on her hands while that little boy gets to be free. it seems like society does’nt care who they put in jail and wether or not its going to occur again to someone elses poor child. The message is to just not get the story from the media man and that China is not a murderer. When me and my fam see this stuff right here it’s like a dart to the heart. China use to have so much energy and personality and now when i see her i don’t eben know who im looking at because she is so lst and hurt and lonely. I wish yall could feel what my family is going through,specially my little cousins (her sons) then yall would understand. It’s crazy that I’m 16 but im more opened minded than all of you. Im so tired of this. i just want a miracle for my family. And rells wifey? trik please man u so ignorant.

  159. So who did it?

  160. So who did it?

  161. A lil boy i dont want to say his name.i dont remember what my dad said but i know he is related to the babies dad. It’s his nephew, thats why terrell sayin that china did it so his sister’s son won’t get in trouble

  162. A lil boy i dont want to say his name.i dont remember what my dad said but i know he is related to the babies dad. It’s his nephew, thats why terrell sayin that china did it so his sister’s son won’t get in trouble

  163. I heard that she was spared the death penalty…
    What a pity…now you guys (the US taxpayers) have to pay to keep her in prison. Hopefully she is violently brutalised while in prison by other inmates. Prison justice is often the only justice for the victims.

  164. I heard that she was spared the death penalty…
    What a pity…now you guys (the US taxpayers) have to pay to keep her in prison. Hopefully she is violently brutalised while in prison by other inmates. Prison justice is often the only justice for the victims.

  165. this is such great information. thanks for the insight.

  166. this is such great information. thanks for the insight.

  167. This is the most disturbing cases that I have ever heard about. I just came across the details today and found the mother was convicted. However, I can’t find any details on the trial and would like to know more about others in the house at the time. How did they come to determine that the mother killed the baby? What a horrible way to die! Think about the last time you had a minor burn and imagine that magnified times 1000 and that is what that infant felt. What a truly sick thing to do! The woman has been convicted but maybe the boyfriend did do it. If they argued that the child was not his, maybe he decided to kill the infant after he returned home, found everyone asleep (Mom drunk after partying) and thinking no one would suspect him. What evidence was used to convict her?

  168. This is the most disturbing cases that I have ever heard about. I just came across the details today and found the mother was convicted. However, I can’t find any details on the trial and would like to know more about others in the house at the time. How did they come to determine that the mother killed the baby? What a horrible way to die! Think about the last time you had a minor burn and imagine that magnified times 1000 and that is what that infant felt. What a truly sick thing to do! The woman has been convicted but maybe the boyfriend did do it. If they argued that the child was not his, maybe he decided to kill the infant after he returned home, found everyone asleep (Mom drunk after partying) and thinking no one would suspect him. What evidence was used to convict her?

  169. Some people act more like human animals than human beings. If this boyfriend was the so-called alpha-male type, just like an alpha male lion, he may have wanted to get rid of another male lion’s off spring. He does sound a little ignorant. “The baby is light complected”. I am just saying! I really find it hard to accept that this woman micro-waved her baby! I mean I know many women have killed their babies, but usually by far less heinous means, drowning, suffocation, these are bad enough but micro-waving. That’s like throwing gasoline on it and setting it on fire. Truly shocking and unreal.

  170. Some people act more like human animals than human beings. If this boyfriend was the so-called alpha-male type, just like an alpha male lion, he may have wanted to get rid of another male lion’s off spring. He does sound a little ignorant. “The baby is light complected”. I am just saying! I really find it hard to accept that this woman micro-waved her baby! I mean I know many women have killed their babies, but usually by far less heinous means, drowning, suffocation, these are bad enough but micro-waving. That’s like throwing gasoline on it and setting it on fire. Truly shocking and unreal.

  171. I’m the cousin of China and to tell you the truth my cousin didnt do this to her baby first off, second this was china first baby girl and fourth child. My family really want to world to understand that in the state that we live in we have bad prosecutors. The prosecutors know what happen to this baby and they even paid witness to lie on them. The prosecutor witnesses even came in front of the judge to tell her that she was paid 3 thousand of dollars to lie. The person who killed this baby was a little boy who has a history of killing animals in the microwave. Shaaronie you are right. My cousin was sleep in the room. She got beaten by a man who she thought she loved. Yea, she was passed out in her room while this was happening. A little boy who was 5 at the time and he is 7 or 8 came forth and told the court what happen to Paris. The little boy said that another boy who is 11 years old killed Paris (who has a history of putting animals in the oven). Oh yea, Paris father was doubting that he was the father but it came out at the trial that he was the father of Paris. The father knows who killed Paris too……

    That’s why my family isn’t going to let this go we are going to fight hard until China is out of jail.

  172. I’m the cousin of China and to tell you the truth my cousin didnt do this to her baby first off, second this was china first baby girl and fourth child. My family really want to world to understand that in the state that we live in we have bad prosecutors. The prosecutors know what happen to this baby and they even paid witness to lie on them. The prosecutor witnesses even came in front of the judge to tell her that she was paid 3 thousand of dollars to lie. The person who killed this baby was a little boy who has a history of killing animals in the microwave. Shaaronie you are right. My cousin was sleep in the room. She got beaten by a man who she thought she loved. Yea, she was passed out in her room while this was happening. A little boy who was 5 at the time and he is 7 or 8 came forth and told the court what happen to Paris. The little boy said that another boy who is 11 years old killed Paris (who has a history of putting animals in the oven). Oh yea, Paris father was doubting that he was the father but it came out at the trial that he was the father of Paris. The father knows who killed Paris too……

    That’s why my family isn’t going to let this go we are going to fight hard until China is out of jail.

  173. I think it’s pretty freakin obvious that it was one of the kids who did it…not that, that excuses China’s poor parenting skills. In effect, she really did kill her baby…in that she wasn’t coherent enough to be watching her kids and making sure that they weren’t microwaving each other. And if the kid was microwaving small animals and the like, again, why wasn’t something done? Most states offer free mental health care, amongst a variety of other things for those that aren’t well to do. The fact that she, along with others, *KNEW* that this behavior was going on and she left the kid completely unattended makes her the guilty party and is a good enough reason as any to get those kids away from her. Simply put…she should not have had kids, she is an unfit mother by all accounts. If you have very young kids you do not go out and get completely plastered and pass out without anyone there to look after your children. If you do that…you do not deserve to have children and they should be taken away from you as quickly as possible…period.

  174. I think it’s pretty freakin obvious that it was one of the kids who did it…not that, that excuses China’s poor parenting skills. In effect, she really did kill her baby…in that she wasn’t coherent enough to be watching her kids and making sure that they weren’t microwaving each other. And if the kid was microwaving small animals and the like, again, why wasn’t something done? Most states offer free mental health care, amongst a variety of other things for those that aren’t well to do. The fact that she, along with others, *KNEW* that this behavior was going on and she left the kid completely unattended makes her the guilty party and is a good enough reason as any to get those kids away from her. Simply put…she should not have had kids, she is an unfit mother by all accounts. If you have very young kids you do not go out and get completely plastered and pass out without anyone there to look after your children. If you do that…you do not deserve to have children and they should be taken away from you as quickly as possible…period.

  175. I’m sorry that I missed worded what happen to Paris the person who killed her was one of Paris father relatives. Not China’s kids!!!!!! China kids was sleep at the time. Now, Paris father nephew was the one who killed PAris. The person who testify and said that he seen who killed her was Paris father little cousin. The cousin told what happen to her…. Now the prosectors was the one who had paid their wittness to lie on her thats why she China is in jail today!!

  176. I’m sorry that I missed worded what happen to Paris the person who killed her was one of Paris father relatives. Not China’s kids!!!!!! China kids was sleep at the time. Now, Paris father nephew was the one who killed PAris. The person who testify and said that he seen who killed her was Paris father little cousin. The cousin told what happen to her…. Now the prosectors was the one who had paid their wittness to lie on her thats why she China is in jail today!!

  177. Who cares what side of the family the child came from? If the child was known to be violent/dangerous, then China should have had enough sense not to leave her baby at the mercy of such a little degenerate! In case the correlation of this eludes you, that means she should not have gotten so blind, stinking drunk that she couldn’t even take care of her own baby! The myriad branches of this family tree have nothing to do with China’s poor judgment! Sheesh!

  178. Who cares what side of the family the child came from? If the child was known to be violent/dangerous, then China should have had enough sense not to leave her baby at the mercy of such a little degenerate! In case the correlation of this eludes you, that means she should not have gotten so blind, stinking drunk that she couldn’t even take care of her own baby! The myriad branches of this family tree have nothing to do with China’s poor judgment! Sheesh!

  179. it was proven at trial that this little boy who ‘did it’ was not in even in the same city at the time Paris was killed. he said he was here on his birthday or something and he remembered his uncle being there and his birthday and the time of the uncles visits were months apart from the death. Also it is alleged that china told people in the jail that the father of this boy who ‘did it’ wants to get with china and therefore he talked his kid into confessing to get china out so they could be together

  180. it was proven at trial that this little boy who ‘did it’ was not in even in the same city at the time Paris was killed. he said he was here on his birthday or something and he remembered his uncle being there and his birthday and the time of the uncles visits were months apart from the death. Also it is alleged that china told people in the jail that the father of this boy who ‘did it’ wants to get with china and therefore he talked his kid into confessing to get china out so they could be together

  181. First of all, if I was related to this useless oxygen thieving waste of skin I would not be admitting it…

    IF she did not kill her baby she still has to bear SOME of the responsibility for…

    1. ALLOWING it to happen…who lets a person (adult or child) who is known for their violent behaviour to be around their infant? and…

    2. No GOOD PARENT gets so drunk that they pass out when they are supposed to be caring for their child/children.

    I am a mother & I flat out don’t drink…I didn’t drink while we were trying to get pregnant, I didn’t drink during my pregnancy, I do not drink now because I am breast feeding & I do not plan to drink at all when I am caring for my child…that’s what a night out is for & you call a trustworthy babysitting service to watch the kids!

  182. First of all, if I was related to this useless oxygen thieving waste of skin I would not be admitting it…

    IF she did not kill her baby she still has to bear SOME of the responsibility for…

    1. ALLOWING it to happen…who lets a person (adult or child) who is known for their violent behaviour to be around their infant? and…

    2. No GOOD PARENT gets so drunk that they pass out when they are supposed to be caring for their child/children.

    I am a mother & I flat out don’t drink…I didn’t drink while we were trying to get pregnant, I didn’t drink during my pregnancy, I do not drink now because I am breast feeding & I do not plan to drink at all when I am caring for my child…that’s what a night out is for & you call a trustworthy babysitting service to watch the kids!

  183. Useless waste of skin? That’s a rude comment. You don’t even know her and flat out nobody cares what you do with your kids but i bet you can’t say that you are a perfect parent because nobody is. Nobody makes 100 percent perfect decisions on their kids and anyway she was gtting beat by her baby’s father sooo oi think that a normal human femle under those type of circumstances would turn to drinking depending on the way your brain works. Everybody is not you SB clearly you are sayins she shouldhave made the same choices you are making now. Yea some responsibility is on her because she is the moher but that’s not the point…she is still i jail for life for a murder that she didn’t commit. Thats the big picture. POINT BLANK. That is all there is to it. That’s not fair. AND i bet you that your children turn out as ruthlesss as you are for saying that bull about my cousin in your comment “Hopefully she is violently brutalised while in prison by other inmates”. That was rude for real.

  184. Useless waste of skin? That’s a rude comment. You don’t even know her and flat out nobody cares what you do with your kids but i bet you can’t say that you are a perfect parent because nobody is. Nobody makes 100 percent perfect decisions on their kids and anyway she was gtting beat by her baby’s father sooo oi think that a normal human femle under those type of circumstances would turn to drinking depending on the way your brain works. Everybody is not you SB clearly you are sayins she shouldhave made the same choices you are making now. Yea some responsibility is on her because she is the moher but that’s not the point…she is still i jail for life for a murder that she didn’t commit. Thats the big picture. POINT BLANK. That is all there is to it. That’s not fair. AND i bet you that your children turn out as ruthlesss as you are for saying that bull about my cousin in your comment “Hopefully she is violently brutalised while in prison by other inmates”. That was rude for real.

  185. I never claimed to be a perfect parent but I never microwaved my baby & I never got so drunk while I was looking after her that someone else was able to microwave her.

    The bitch deserves everything she gets…that’s my opinion & I am entitled to voice it…just like you are entitled to defend the oxygen thieving BAD MOTHER.

  186. I never claimed to be a perfect parent but I never microwaved my baby & I never got so drunk while I was looking after her that someone else was able to microwave her.

    The bitch deserves everything she gets…that’s my opinion & I am entitled to voice it…just like you are entitled to defend the oxygen thieving BAD MOTHER.

  187. Right…so decide to speak false remarks saying that she put her baby in the microwave. You don’t even know unless you were there. So yea u are able to make speak your voice but shutup if you don’t even know what you are talking about unless you were there…which you were’nt…so that means you dont know shit flatout.

  188. Right…so decide to speak false remarks saying that she put her baby in the microwave. You don’t even know unless you were there. So yea u are able to make speak your voice but shutup if you don’t even know what you are talking about unless you were there…which you were’nt…so that means you dont know shit flatout.

  189. AND im not defending her getting drunk if that’s what happened, im saying that she is in jail for a crime she didn’t commit. Ok she wasn’t watching her kid, so someone call social services but is it worth everything she is going through right now?

  190. AND im not defending her getting drunk if that’s what happened, im saying that she is in jail for a crime she didn’t commit. Ok she wasn’t watching her kid, so someone call social services but is it worth everything she is going through right now?

  191. YES. Because her baby is dead, murdered horrifically. She didn’t do it? A jury of her peers and a WHOLE lot of evidence says she did. And if she didn’t do it, she allowed someone else to do it by caring far more about getting her drink on than about making sure her baby was safe and protected.

    Should people go to prison just for being crappy parents? ABSOLUTELY! Should they rot in prison for the rest of their miserable lives if their parental crapiness results in the death of their child? YOU BET!

  192. YES. Because her baby is dead, murdered horrifically. She didn’t do it? A jury of her peers and a WHOLE lot of evidence says she did. And if she didn’t do it, she allowed someone else to do it by caring far more about getting her drink on than about making sure her baby was safe and protected.

    Should people go to prison just for being crappy parents? ABSOLUTELY! Should they rot in prison for the rest of their miserable lives if their parental crapiness results in the death of their child? YOU BET!

  193. IHKT:

    Damn! You rock! I don’t even have anything to add to that one…..

  194. IHKT:

    Damn! You rock! I don’t even have anything to add to that one…..

  195. Thanks Angel. To my way of thinking the only creature on the planet more detestable than someone who murders her child is the creature who DEFENDS her!

  196. Thanks Angel. To my way of thinking the only creature on the planet more detestable than someone who murders her child is the creature who DEFENDS her!

  197. I agree.

  198. I agree.

  199. are you kidding? you actually think her lawyer is worse than her. her lawyer who was doing his job trying his best to give her a fair trial is worse than someone who murders their child? the lawyer didnt take anyones life in fact newsflash he LOST this trial. but hes worse right? you are insane so if you really think that you would rather him be in prison for life than her? what a nut

  200. are you kidding? you actually think her lawyer is worse than her. her lawyer who was doing his job trying his best to give her a fair trial is worse than someone who murders their child? the lawyer didnt take anyones life in fact newsflash he LOST this trial. but hes worse right? you are insane so if you really think that you would rather him be in prison for life than her? what a nut

  201. everyone hates lawyers until they need one

  202. everyone hates lawyers until they need one

  203. Sheri, if you would have read further back on the blog, you’d see I’m referring to “Tejal” who claimed to know the killer and was defending her. As rotten as I think ALL lawyers are (and I’m related to a few), I realize that defense attorneys are a necessary evil. And really, what defense attorney ever knows for sure if the person he’s defending is or isn’t innocent? To do his job right, he pretty much has to take it on faith that they are innocent.

    I think if you read Tejal’s comments you’ll see that he/she is NO defense attorney – just a person who can’t accept the truth that someone they know did something really horrible and went to jail for it.

  204. Sheri, if you would have read further back on the blog, you’d see I’m referring to “Tejal” who claimed to know the killer and was defending her. As rotten as I think ALL lawyers are (and I’m related to a few), I realize that defense attorneys are a necessary evil. And really, what defense attorney ever knows for sure if the person he’s defending is or isn’t innocent? To do his job right, he pretty much has to take it on faith that they are innocent.

    I think if you read Tejal’s comments you’ll see that he/she is NO defense attorney – just a person who can’t accept the truth that someone they know did something really horrible and went to jail for it.

  205. Sherri said:
    “you actually think her lawyer is worse than her.”

    If you would read the comments in context, you would see that the one being referred to is the person on this blog who is defending the murderer. I realize that attorneys have to defend criminals. That is their job, and what they get paid for. That is a far cry from a friend or family member who should be more concerned about the victim than the killer. In the future, if you are not going to read all of the comments, in order to make a more informed judgment, please don’t bother. It makes you look silly.

  206. Sherri said:
    “you actually think her lawyer is worse than her.”

    If you would read the comments in context, you would see that the one being referred to is the person on this blog who is defending the murderer. I realize that attorneys have to defend criminals. That is their job, and what they get paid for. That is a far cry from a friend or family member who should be more concerned about the victim than the killer. In the future, if you are not going to read all of the comments, in order to make a more informed judgment, please don’t bother. It makes you look silly.

  207. ok so her family member is worse than her…uh yea thats even better–nobody knows if shes guilty or not. obviously she is guilty of something but nobody knows if it is aggravated murder. of coure tefal is going to defend her what do you think. so Tejal should be in prison than instead of china right?

  208. ok so her family member is worse than her…uh yea thats even better–nobody knows if shes guilty or not. obviously she is guilty of something but nobody knows if it is aggravated murder. of coure tefal is going to defend her what do you think. so Tejal should be in prison than instead of china right?

  209. and angel if you are going to repeat everything ihavekidstoo is saying maybe you shouldnt bother it makes you look silly, kind of like you dont have a mind of your own

  210. and angel if you are going to repeat everything ihavekidstoo is saying maybe you shouldnt bother it makes you look silly, kind of like you dont have a mind of your own

  211. Actually Sherri, I’m wondering why anyone is bothering to argue with you at all, considering how completely freakin stupid you keep making yourself look. I mean, you can’t fix stupid…you just can’t. *shrugs* The best thing to do is to simply ignore you as it’s not as if anyone is going to get any sense into that great big fat head of yours. Just remember, I didn’t make reality, I just verbally bitch slapped you with it. ^__^

  212. Actually Sherri, I’m wondering why anyone is bothering to argue with you at all, considering how completely freakin stupid you keep making yourself look. I mean, you can’t fix stupid…you just can’t. *shrugs* The best thing to do is to simply ignore you as it’s not as if anyone is going to get any sense into that great big fat head of yours. Just remember, I didn’t make reality, I just verbally bitch slapped you with it. ^__^

  213. I didn’t repeat a thing. I posted my comment after reading your comment, but before reading hers, thanks. I would get in to a battle of wits with you, but I don’t like to fight someone who is unarmed.

    And yes, if people keep making excuses for killers, then we end up with more killers, because they think they can get away with it. If society as a whole would stop condoning and enabling these degenerates, and start giving them the punishment they deserve; well, then we might begin to see a decrease in these type crimes, instead of a steady increase. So, in that way, the enablers are just as bad – if not, worse – than the killers themselves. Because of their whiny, psycho-babble, bleeding-heart excuses, more killers are created, or at the very least, encouraged to try this method of releasing themselves from their responsibilities.

    And speaking of looking silly: maybe you should try honing your capitalization, punctuation and grammar skills if you get a chance.

  214. I didn’t repeat a thing. I posted my comment after reading your comment, but before reading hers, thanks. I would get in to a battle of wits with you, but I don’t like to fight someone who is unarmed.

    And yes, if people keep making excuses for killers, then we end up with more killers, because they think they can get away with it. If society as a whole would stop condoning and enabling these degenerates, and start giving them the punishment they deserve; well, then we might begin to see a decrease in these type crimes, instead of a steady increase. So, in that way, the enablers are just as bad – if not, worse – than the killers themselves. Because of their whiny, psycho-babble, bleeding-heart excuses, more killers are created, or at the very least, encouraged to try this method of releasing themselves from their responsibilities.

    And speaking of looking silly: maybe you should try honing your capitalization, punctuation and grammar skills if you get a chance.

  215. OMH:

    I was writing at the same time you were. I guess you got done first. Thanks for the laugh…I had to pick myself up off of the floor after reading your reply to Sherri. Still LMAO.

  216. OMH:

    I was writing at the same time you were. I guess you got done first. Thanks for the laugh…I had to pick myself up off of the floor after reading your reply to Sherri. Still LMAO.

  217. First of all I did not know it was important to use correct punctuation in order to get a point across on a blog. But if that is what you need here you go. For your information I was not defending China or her actions, if you look at MY previous post on April 3 I said. . .

    it was proven at trial that this little boy who ‘did it’ was not in even in the same city at the time Paris was killed. he said he was here on his birthday or something and he remembered his uncle being there and his birthday and the time of the uncles visits were months apart from the death. Also it is alleged that china told people in the jail that the father of this boy who ‘did it’ wants to get with china and therefore he talked his kid into confessing to get china out so they could be together

    Sorry there is not correct punctuation that was before I was aware of the ‘rules of the blog’. I am simply making a point for both sides. Nobody is worse than the guilty party not the lawyer nor someone who truly believes her innocence. That was the point of my last few blogs.

    Furthermore I am sure we do not need to argue intelligence on a China Arnold blog, because trust me there is no competition. This blog is to discuss her guilt/innocent maybe you should stick to that–you just make yourself look petty.

  218. First of all I did not know it was important to use correct punctuation in order to get a point across on a blog. But if that is what you need here you go. For your information I was not defending China or her actions, if you look at MY previous post on April 3 I said. . .

    it was proven at trial that this little boy who ‘did it’ was not in even in the same city at the time Paris was killed. he said he was here on his birthday or something and he remembered his uncle being there and his birthday and the time of the uncles visits were months apart from the death. Also it is alleged that china told people in the jail that the father of this boy who ‘did it’ wants to get with china and therefore he talked his kid into confessing to get china out so they could be together

    Sorry there is not correct punctuation that was before I was aware of the ‘rules of the blog’. I am simply making a point for both sides. Nobody is worse than the guilty party not the lawyer nor someone who truly believes her innocence. That was the point of my last few blogs.

    Furthermore I am sure we do not need to argue intelligence on a China Arnold blog, because trust me there is no competition. This blog is to discuss her guilt/innocent maybe you should stick to that–you just make yourself look petty.

  219. Enablers and those who try to excuse such heinous actions are murderers of society. And they cheapen the memories of those who suffered at the hands of such monsters.

  220. I don’t know what is so ‘stupid’ about questioning why you think someone defending her is worse than her? I still don’t get it I mean I understand I misunderstood who you were speaking about at first but you know what I’m talking about now and I hope that you answer. I don’t know Tejal and I’m surely not related to China but I’m pretty much sure Tejal isn’t worse. If I’m still off on what you were trying to say please correct me. But if you are going to get all defensive and just throw out insults instead whatever that is just rude.

  221. Enablers and those who try to excuse such heinous actions are murderers of society. And they cheapen the memories of those who suffered at the hands of such monsters.

  222. I don’t know what is so ‘stupid’ about questioning why you think someone defending her is worse than her? I still don’t get it I mean I understand I misunderstood who you were speaking about at first but you know what I’m talking about now and I hope that you answer. I don’t know Tejal and I’m surely not related to China but I’m pretty much sure Tejal isn’t worse. If I’m still off on what you were trying to say please correct me. But if you are going to get all defensive and just throw out insults instead whatever that is just rude.

  223. Ok I see what you’re saying. But this case is so crazy because nobody truly knows. I honestly think that China doesn’t even know! I’m surprised that she got convicted on aggravated murder without a confession or witness. So I really don’t know what to think about it all. I really think it was a kid that did it. She had four other kids and nothing happened to them, this was her first girl. And I think the defense was trying to say with the level of her intoxication it was impossible to function enough to do such an act. She was almost in a coma–she was drinking 151 and at the time of the crime she was a lot smaller than she is now, so it wouldn’t take much!

  224. Ok I see what you’re saying. But this case is so crazy because nobody truly knows. I honestly think that China doesn’t even know! I’m surprised that she got convicted on aggravated murder without a confession or witness. So I really don’t know what to think about it all. I really think it was a kid that did it. She had four other kids and nothing happened to them, this was her first girl. And I think the defense was trying to say with the level of her intoxication it was impossible to function enough to do such an act. She was almost in a coma–she was drinking 151 and at the time of the crime she was a lot smaller than she is now, so it wouldn’t take much!

  225. I have tried to explain it twice, now. People who defend monsters, become monsters themselves. Monsters by association, you might say. If fewer people tried to condone and lessen the importance of these actions, fewer people would think, “Hey, maybe I could get away with that, too.” Burying one’s head in the sand doesn’t change the situation; in fact, it exacerbates the problem. That’s how they can be just as bad…or worse.

  226. I have tried to explain it twice, now. People who defend monsters, become monsters themselves. Monsters by association, you might say. If fewer people tried to condone and lessen the importance of these actions, fewer people would think, “Hey, maybe I could get away with that, too.” Burying one’s head in the sand doesn’t change the situation; in fact, it exacerbates the problem. That’s how they can be just as bad…or worse.

  227. I was typing a reply to your previous comment while you were posting the one above mine. Sorry if I seem redundant. Whether China did it or not has become irrelevant to me at this point. She is at the very least a negligent parent. She is being punished for it. As it should be.

    Tejal is still trying to defend her, though, which makes him an enabler…still. Do you see my point? I am not trying to be petty, here, but I would like you to understand why I think that the defenders are horrible.

  228. I was typing a reply to your previous comment while you were posting the one above mine. Sorry if I seem redundant. Whether China did it or not has become irrelevant to me at this point. She is at the very least a negligent parent. She is being punished for it. As it should be.

    Tejal is still trying to defend her, though, which makes him an enabler…still. Do you see my point? I am not trying to be petty, here, but I would like you to understand why I think that the defenders are horrible.

  229. I’m agreeing with you! All that I’m saying is that in this case I really think the prosecution wanted a conviction at all costs. She was the only lead and it took 2 years to arrest her! Meaning at first they didn’t think it was even her. I don’t think being on China’s side especially if you are a family member is so bad in this case. Even though she was found guilty by a jury I don’t think anyone knows if she did it.

  230. I’m agreeing with you! All that I’m saying is that in this case I really think the prosecution wanted a conviction at all costs. She was the only lead and it took 2 years to arrest her! Meaning at first they didn’t think it was even her. I don’t think being on China’s side especially if you are a family member is so bad in this case. Even though she was found guilty by a jury I don’t think anyone knows if she did it.

  231. Ok we keep typing at the same time, sorry lol. I see your point but do you really think a negligent parent deserves life in prison because of someone elses actions (if it was someone else).

  232. Ok we keep typing at the same time, sorry lol. I see your point but do you really think a negligent parent deserves life in prison because of someone elses actions (if it was someone else).

  233. I believe that if a parent allows herself to be in such a condition that she cannot protect her children, and her child dies as a result; then yes, she deserves life in prison. It’s the same as drunk driving. Drunk parenting costs lives. If she needed to get drunk so badly, she should have hired a sitter.

    Look at it like this: If a person gets drunk and drives, but his sober passenger reaches over and grabs the wheel, causing him to run over a pedestrian, who is to blame? Both are. Equally. If the driver hadn’t been drunk, he might have been able to correct the turn in time to miss the pedestrian. If the passenger hadn’t grabbed the wheel the accident might not have happened, either. Both guilty, both murderers. That may not be the best example to get my point across, but it is the best I can come up with in the middle of dinner preparation….

  234. I believe that if a parent allows herself to be in such a condition that she cannot protect her children, and her child dies as a result; then yes, she deserves life in prison. It’s the same as drunk driving. Drunk parenting costs lives. If she needed to get drunk so badly, she should have hired a sitter.

    Look at it like this: If a person gets drunk and drives, but his sober passenger reaches over and grabs the wheel, causing him to run over a pedestrian, who is to blame? Both are. Equally. If the driver hadn’t been drunk, he might have been able to correct the turn in time to miss the pedestrian. If the passenger hadn’t grabbed the wheel the accident might not have happened, either. Both guilty, both murderers. That may not be the best example to get my point across, but it is the best I can come up with in the middle of dinner preparation….

  235. That is a good point I see exactly what you are saying. I’m just torn on this case because she did have a babysitter who left when she got home. She got home really late it was bedtime and I think if she wasn’t drunk she would have been sleeping anyway. I just find it hard to place liability on a parent for third party actions. I’m not a mother I’m only 22 and still in school, I don’t plan on being a negligent mom but I can’t imagine being guilty for the murder someone else committed just because of the parental relationship. Oh well though hopefully time will tell and maybe one day the truth will come out. But if she is guilty I say thank God she is imprisoned and kept away from civilized society.

  236. That is a good point I see exactly what you are saying. I’m just torn on this case because she did have a babysitter who left when she got home. She got home really late it was bedtime and I think if she wasn’t drunk she would have been sleeping anyway. I just find it hard to place liability on a parent for third party actions. I’m not a mother I’m only 22 and still in school, I don’t plan on being a negligent mom but I can’t imagine being guilty for the murder someone else committed just because of the parental relationship. Oh well though hopefully time will tell and maybe one day the truth will come out. But if she is guilty I say thank God she is imprisoned and kept away from civilized society.

  237. A responsible parent will not knowingly make him/herself the sole caregiver for their children when they know (or at least, should know) that they are in no condition to provide care for said children.

    There is a big difference between sleeping and drunk. If I am drunk, and my kid gets hurt, I cannot drive him to the hospital, or help him. If I am asleep, I can wake up, and drive my kid to the hospital without having to wait for a sober driver to arrive. However, I usually do not go to sleep until all of my children are in bed, anyway. And I certainly would not go to sleep and leave an infant or small child alone with other children running around. That’s just asking for trouble. It’s hard enough to keep kids calm when you are awake to monitor them – if you go to sleep, the kids have free rein to wreak havoc on whatever they can find to get in to. Even good kids can accidentally hurt an infant…and it only takes a second to snuff out a life.

  238. A responsible parent will not knowingly make him/herself the sole caregiver for their children when they know (or at least, should know) that they are in no condition to provide care for said children.

    There is a big difference between sleeping and drunk. If I am drunk, and my kid gets hurt, I cannot drive him to the hospital, or help him. If I am asleep, I can wake up, and drive my kid to the hospital without having to wait for a sober driver to arrive. However, I usually do not go to sleep until all of my children are in bed, anyway. And I certainly would not go to sleep and leave an infant or small child alone with other children running around. That’s just asking for trouble. It’s hard enough to keep kids calm when you are awake to monitor them – if you go to sleep, the kids have free rein to wreak havoc on whatever they can find to get in to. Even good kids can accidentally hurt an infant…and it only takes a second to snuff out a life.

  239. Sherri, I see your point aboutTejal being “worse.” I actually said someone like Tejal who defends a person who’s done what China Arnold did is more “destable,” not “worse.” Is he/she as bad as a murderer? Of course not. But I detest such people even MORE than murderers in some ways because, as Angel pointed out, these people make a horrific situation even worse by enabling the murderer to maintain some pretense that he/she is innocent. One could argue that anyone who murders a child is beyond contempt, but someone who speaks in DEFENSE of the murderer (not an attorney) deserves our contempt because that person is supposedly NOT beyond redemption.

    I personally believe China Arnold nuked her own baby without any help. But if she didn’t, her drunkeness certainly created the opportunity for someone else to do it. Ultimately, a mother is a child’s first, last and best defense against the evils of the world – or SHOULD be. When a mother fails to protect her child through her own negligence, then she’s as guilty as the person who perpetrates the evil. Accidents happen, tragically, and there will always be some things in this life that we just can’t protect our children from. But our own negligence and inattention should not be on that list.

    Sorry for the long, soapboxy post, but people who try to protect the guilty really chap my ass!

  240. Sherri, I see your point aboutTejal being “worse.” I actually said someone like Tejal who defends a person who’s done what China Arnold did is more “destable,” not “worse.” Is he/she as bad as a murderer? Of course not. But I detest such people even MORE than murderers in some ways because, as Angel pointed out, these people make a horrific situation even worse by enabling the murderer to maintain some pretense that he/she is innocent. One could argue that anyone who murders a child is beyond contempt, but someone who speaks in DEFENSE of the murderer (not an attorney) deserves our contempt because that person is supposedly NOT beyond redemption.

    I personally believe China Arnold nuked her own baby without any help. But if she didn’t, her drunkeness certainly created the opportunity for someone else to do it. Ultimately, a mother is a child’s first, last and best defense against the evils of the world – or SHOULD be. When a mother fails to protect her child through her own negligence, then she’s as guilty as the person who perpetrates the evil. Accidents happen, tragically, and there will always be some things in this life that we just can’t protect our children from. But our own negligence and inattention should not be on that list.

    Sorry for the long, soapboxy post, but people who try to protect the guilty really chap my ass!

  241. Have you tried wearing longer britches to prevent the chapping, IHKT? lol

    Sorry, I just had to go there…..

  242. Have you tried wearing longer britches to prevent the chapping, IHKT? lol

    Sorry, I just had to go there…..

  243. Angel, LMAO. These days, even high-waist waders don’t seem to do the trick!

  244. Angel, LMAO. These days, even high-waist waders don’t seem to do the trick!

  245. Ok so you are saying that because i know a person and i know their personality and who they are and what they do through life, i am as bad as her because of me defending her? I’m a creature… A HORRIBLE CREATURE! whoa that’s cool. Actually I’m a 16 year old girl who knows that China Arnold’s rights were violated when her jury was nothing like her. And you guys say that she is a bad parent because she left her baby unattended? ok i see where you are coming from with her getting drunk. But i also read a statement from one of you guys and you basically said that she should take full responsibility because of the baby’s death…WRONG!…the baby had a father (WOW! BLACK PEOPLE HAVE FATHERS???) and i dont hear anything bout him. The facts weren’t present in the courtroom because if you would have kept up with the case (which you definetly haven’t) then you would know that the court had decided to not use two statements. One from a little boy stating that he saw the baby being put in the microwave by a young boy and another from a women in jail stating that the police paid her to lie on China. Right…i think that yall are seeing things from one side and that’s just saying she is guilty. If I’m a monster for defending her then it’s ok because i don’t care me and my whole family are monsters then…whatever. Put yourselves in our shoes. Yall tooo busy judging people by appearences and the fake media(RUMORS ANYBODY?). I’m not saying that she’s completly innocent but she didn’t put her baby in the microwave.

    P.S. AND I’m not a monster thank you very much. I get very good grades…no excellent graes and im level headed. It’s funny how i see the holes in the system and i am a kid and yall dont.

  246. Ok so you are saying that because i know a person and i know their personality and who they are and what they do through life, i am as bad as her because of me defending her? I’m a creature… A HORRIBLE CREATURE! whoa that’s cool. Actually I’m a 16 year old girl who knows that China Arnold’s rights were violated when her jury was nothing like her. And you guys say that she is a bad parent because she left her baby unattended? ok i see where you are coming from with her getting drunk. But i also read a statement from one of you guys and you basically said that she should take full responsibility because of the baby’s death…WRONG!…the baby had a father (WOW! BLACK PEOPLE HAVE FATHERS???) and i dont hear anything bout him. The facts weren’t present in the courtroom because if you would have kept up with the case (which you definetly haven’t) then you would know that the court had decided to not use two statements. One from a little boy stating that he saw the baby being put in the microwave by a young boy and another from a women in jail stating that the police paid her to lie on China. Right…i think that yall are seeing things from one side and that’s just saying she is guilty. If I’m a monster for defending her then it’s ok because i don’t care me and my whole family are monsters then…whatever. Put yourselves in our shoes. Yall tooo busy judging people by appearences and the fake media(RUMORS ANYBODY?). I’m not saying that she’s completly innocent but she didn’t put her baby in the microwave.

    P.S. AND I’m not a monster thank you very much. I get very good grades…no excellent graes and im level headed. It’s funny how i see the holes in the system and i am a kid and yall dont.

  247. That baby’s death wasn’t caused by holes in the system….it was caused because the responsible party would rather drink than take care of her child. That is NEGLIGENCE. A death resulting from negligence is negligent homicide. It deserves jail time – and, in a case like this, where an infant is the one to die – lots of jail time.

    I never said that she actually put the child in the microwave. Actually, I believe I said in one of my previous posts that that particular fact has become irrelevant at this point. I said that her baby died because she was drunk. And that is a fact. If the father was in the house at the time, he should face charges as well, in my opinion. It was as much his responsibility as hers, at that point. But if he was not – then it’s all on her.

    And I will repeat – those who make excuses for people who cause the death of infants, are part of the reason that the judicial system is as screwed up as it is. At only sixteen, I can almost see why you do not understand this concept yet. You are still young enough that you believe if we love someone enough, then that will compensate for any errors they might make. As you grow and mature, hopefully, you will understand more of how justice really works, and that loving someone is not the same thing as excusing them. And that you CAN condemn the actions without hating the person. But, as long as people continue to gloss over the crime in order to ‘prove’ their love for a person, things will never change – and people will continue to commit heinous crimes with the expectation that all will be forgotten if they can just find someone else to cast part of the blame on. It is a self-perpetuating cycle, and a self-fulfilling prophesy.

  248. That baby’s death wasn’t caused by holes in the system….it was caused because the responsible party would rather drink than take care of her child. That is NEGLIGENCE. A death resulting from negligence is negligent homicide. It deserves jail time – and, in a case like this, where an infant is the one to die – lots of jail time.

    I never said that she actually put the child in the microwave. Actually, I believe I said in one of my previous posts that that particular fact has become irrelevant at this point. I said that her baby died because she was drunk. And that is a fact. If the father was in the house at the time, he should face charges as well, in my opinion. It was as much his responsibility as hers, at that point. But if he was not – then it’s all on her.

    And I will repeat – those who make excuses for people who cause the death of infants, are part of the reason that the judicial system is as screwed up as it is. At only sixteen, I can almost see why you do not understand this concept yet. You are still young enough that you believe if we love someone enough, then that will compensate for any errors they might make. As you grow and mature, hopefully, you will understand more of how justice really works, and that loving someone is not the same thing as excusing them. And that you CAN condemn the actions without hating the person. But, as long as people continue to gloss over the crime in order to ‘prove’ their love for a person, things will never change – and people will continue to commit heinous crimes with the expectation that all will be forgotten if they can just find someone else to cast part of the blame on. It is a self-perpetuating cycle, and a self-fulfilling prophesy.

  249. I dont feel that anyone on this website should comment on why we as family members claim that she is innocent…. First China has came from a big family where her grandmother has 14 kids… And we as a family knows that China is innocent because no one in our family would never do a horrible thing to our children…. And we will continue to fight for her innocence…

    I personally think China was wrong for being drunk but she did have a baby sitter, Now thats the thing that China was guilty about was drinking and she admitted that she was drinking a 151… but she also got beat by Paris father because he thought that wasnt his child… Well in Court, he was determine Paris father…..

    Well the people on this website who is thinking she did it, I feel like yall can say what yall want…

    This is why we as a family IN FACT KNOWS SHE INNOCENT….

    1. she took a lie detector test, and she pass it…
    2. The lil boy who claim to have done it family lived right next door to China, the family of the lil boy moved out the next day it happen.
    3. There was no evidence found in China microwave the only evidence that was found in her microwave was milk from the baby bottle….
    4. The Prosecutor Matt Heck paid people to lie on her he paid between 3,000-4,000 dollars to lie…
    5. One of the main witnesses on the prosecutor side she had change her testimony in court and told the truth because she didnt wont that in her heart of her lying on china… She was the one who got paid 3,000-4,000 dollars… And the Prosecutors was harassing her… And also Prosecutors also made her baby heart drop when she was 8 months pregnant…
    6. A lil boy who was 5 at the time seen china’s case on tv, stood up and told his father that he pulled daughter out the microwave, after his cousin put her in there…
    7. After the trial was over the family of Paris father side moved to Flordia…

    There are many reason that we know for a fact that she is innocent…
    And for the records China has three other kids who in fact miss their mother…
    Now but yourself in her shoes getting beat by the man who you thought you loved and wake up to feel your daughters touch to relize that she’s not breathing… and for the records Paris father KNOWS what happen to her he woke china up to ask China whats wrong with my baby and deep down inside he knew…. China rush her to the hospital where she was prenouced dead… the police took them both to jail and the father was released… This man has domestic volence on his record…. after chinawas released on after the baby death because they didnt have any evidence the father was calling her asking her did she talk to the police and what did she tell them Now thats guilty…

    And Also China did not have a jury of her peers!!!

    China my cousin and she not no monster…. Know the facts first…

    1. i guess being bad grammar and spelling are a family trait.

  250. I dont feel that anyone on this website should comment on why we as family members claim that she is innocent…. First China has came from a big family where her grandmother has 14 kids… And we as a family knows that China is innocent because no one in our family would never do a horrible thing to our children…. And we will continue to fight for her innocence…

    I personally think China was wrong for being drunk but she did have a baby sitter, Now thats the thing that China was guilty about was drinking and she admitted that she was drinking a 151… but she also got beat by Paris father because he thought that wasnt his child… Well in Court, he was determine Paris father…..

    Well the people on this website who is thinking she did it, I feel like yall can say what yall want…

    This is why we as a family IN FACT KNOWS SHE INNOCENT….

    1. she took a lie detector test, and she pass it…
    2. The lil boy who claim to have done it family lived right next door to China, the family of the lil boy moved out the next day it happen.
    3. There was no evidence found in China microwave the only evidence that was found in her microwave was milk from the baby bottle….
    4. The Prosecutor Matt Heck paid people to lie on her he paid between 3,000-4,000 dollars to lie…
    5. One of the main witnesses on the prosecutor side she had change her testimony in court and told the truth because she didnt wont that in her heart of her lying on china… She was the one who got paid 3,000-4,000 dollars… And the Prosecutors was harassing her… And also Prosecutors also made her baby heart drop when she was 8 months pregnant…
    6. A lil boy who was 5 at the time seen china’s case on tv, stood up and told his father that he pulled daughter out the microwave, after his cousin put her in there…
    7. After the trial was over the family of Paris father side moved to Flordia…

    There are many reason that we know for a fact that she is innocent…
    And for the records China has three other kids who in fact miss their mother…
    Now but yourself in her shoes getting beat by the man who you thought you loved and wake up to feel your daughters touch to relize that she’s not breathing… and for the records Paris father KNOWS what happen to her he woke china up to ask China whats wrong with my baby and deep down inside he knew…. China rush her to the hospital where she was prenouced dead… the police took them both to jail and the father was released… This man has domestic volence on his record…. after chinawas released on after the baby death because they didnt have any evidence the father was calling her asking her did she talk to the police and what did she tell them Now thats guilty…

    And Also China did not have a jury of her peers!!!

    China my cousin and she not no monster…. Know the facts first…

    1. i guess being bad grammar and spelling are a family trait.

  251. Talish:

    A psychopath can pass a lie detector, too….that’s why they are inadmissible in a court of law.

    And if witnesses are being paid three or four thousand dollars to lie……where the hell can I sign up for that job?! I could lie maybe once or twice a month, and – hey! – I got it made, baby!

  252. Talish:

    A psychopath can pass a lie detector, too….that’s why they are inadmissible in a court of law.

    And if witnesses are being paid three or four thousand dollars to lie……where the hell can I sign up for that job?! I could lie maybe once or twice a month, and – hey! – I got it made, baby!

  253. Angel:

    Lol!!!
    Yea, they got paid in living expense. And they lies got my cousin LIFE sentence!!! And honey, you would not want to do thats because they was harassing people….

    And we had a lot of witnesses on our side but the prosecutors told them that they would be called snitches if they tell the truth…. So the kids who we had didnt want to do it because of that….

    and the boy who did it went to school the next day describing the way he killed her, the school had to call the police and the mother because the way he was described it was horrifling….

    by the time the police got up there the lil boy was gone and they removed him from the school…. And the school that he went to they closed down by the time the trial had begun…

    I dont know why they are saving that devil child but I promise god will get you!!

    My cousin should be facing up to 5 years not no life thats crazy…

  254. Angel:

    Lol!!!
    Yea, they got paid in living expense. And they lies got my cousin LIFE sentence!!! And honey, you would not want to do thats because they was harassing people….

    And we had a lot of witnesses on our side but the prosecutors told them that they would be called snitches if they tell the truth…. So the kids who we had didnt want to do it because of that….

    and the boy who did it went to school the next day describing the way he killed her, the school had to call the police and the mother because the way he was described it was horrifling….

    by the time the police got up there the lil boy was gone and they removed him from the school…. And the school that he went to they closed down by the time the trial had begun…

    I dont know why they are saving that devil child but I promise god will get you!!

    My cousin should be facing up to 5 years not no life thats crazy…

  255. Talish, people might find you a little more credible if you would use proper language when commenting. Your comments show your age. Time and time again the others have said that whether or not she actually put the baby in the microwave is irrelevant and this point. The fact that she was so drunk made her negligent, thus contributing to her daughter’s death. And that comment you made about black people do have dads… that was out of line. No one else made this a race issue. You keep saying she didnt have a jury of her peers, please do elaborate on that. (In case you dont know what that means, that means please explain why you say that) You totally contradict yourself in your last post. First you say there was no evidence that the baby was in the microwave, then you say that the kid admitted to taking the baby out of the microwave??? Which is it?? You cant have it both ways.
    Either way. Whether she put the baby in the microwave or not. She is still guilty and she is where she needs to be. You simply do not get so drunk that you dont know what in the hell you are doing, not when you have children to take care of!! Yeah she had a sitter, so why not ask that sitter to stay the rest of the night?

  256. Talish, people might find you a little more credible if you would use proper language when commenting. Your comments show your age. Time and time again the others have said that whether or not she actually put the baby in the microwave is irrelevant and this point. The fact that she was so drunk made her negligent, thus contributing to her daughter’s death. And that comment you made about black people do have dads… that was out of line. No one else made this a race issue. You keep saying she didnt have a jury of her peers, please do elaborate on that. (In case you dont know what that means, that means please explain why you say that) You totally contradict yourself in your last post. First you say there was no evidence that the baby was in the microwave, then you say that the kid admitted to taking the baby out of the microwave??? Which is it?? You cant have it both ways.
    Either way. Whether she put the baby in the microwave or not. She is still guilty and she is where she needs to be. You simply do not get so drunk that you dont know what in the hell you are doing, not when you have children to take care of!! Yeah she had a sitter, so why not ask that sitter to stay the rest of the night?

  257. Samantha:

    First, When you read people comments you need to look at who wrote the comments because I didnt say any thing about black men…. I’m 21 years old, married, have three children, and also going to college…. So don’t do that if you dont know what you are talking about…

    Okay, China’s Microwave was not use in this crime there were no evidence stating that the baby body was in there….
    Like I said there was a lil boy who has history of killing animals in the microwave and at the time of PAris death the family moved the next day… because the evidence was in their microwave!!

  258. Samantha:

    First, When you read people comments you need to look at who wrote the comments because I didnt say any thing about black men…. I’m 21 years old, married, have three children, and also going to college…. So don’t do that if you dont know what you are talking about…

    Okay, China’s Microwave was not use in this crime there were no evidence stating that the baby body was in there….
    Like I said there was a lil boy who has history of killing animals in the microwave and at the time of PAris death the family moved the next day… because the evidence was in their microwave!!

  259. Talish:

    What college do you attend? I want to make sure NONE of my children go there. You need remedial English/Grammar classes. You also need to spell and punctuate your sentences properly. That is what Samantha meant when she said that you show your age. Your comments make you sound like a fifth grader.

  260. Talish:

    What college do you attend? I want to make sure NONE of my children go there. You need remedial English/Grammar classes. You also need to spell and punctuate your sentences properly. That is what Samantha meant when she said that you show your age. Your comments make you sound like a fifth grader.

  261. WELL, I’M SORRY THAT MY SENTENCE SOUND LIKE A FIFTH GRADER LOL! BUT ANGEL I UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE HELL SHE MEANT. WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS REPEATING WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING ON HERE!!

    I’M IN A RUSH TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE SITUATIONS ABOUT MY COUSIN BECAUSE PEOPLE ON HERE TRYING TO MAKE HER OUT TO BE A MONSTER.

    I UNDERSTOOD WHAT SHE SAID I JUST DIDNT UNDERSTAND WHEN SHE SAID THAT I SAID SOMETHING ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE DONT HAVE FATHERS….

  262. WELL, I’M SORRY THAT MY SENTENCE SOUND LIKE A FIFTH GRADER LOL! BUT ANGEL I UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE HELL SHE MEANT. WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS REPEATING WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING ON HERE!!

    I’M IN A RUSH TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE SITUATIONS ABOUT MY COUSIN BECAUSE PEOPLE ON HERE TRYING TO MAKE HER OUT TO BE A MONSTER.

    I UNDERSTOOD WHAT SHE SAID I JUST DIDNT UNDERSTAND WHEN SHE SAID THAT I SAID SOMETHING ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE DONT HAVE FATHERS….

  263. Caps lock is on.

  264. Caps lock is on.

  265. Wait a sec talish…you say that the evidence was in someone else’s microwave…so China was so drunk that she didn’t nitice someone TAKING HER BABY AWAY…what the fuck?????

    I’m sorry if I am repeating myself here but China Arnold was a BAD PARENT. She was found guilty by a jury of her peers & now she must serve her time.

    Sure, the legal system has been known on occasion to get the worng person but in this case, even if she didn’t actrually kill Paris she was an accessory by way of neglect & deserves hard time for it.

    That poor little baby didn’t ask to be born, especially not to a woman who had no intention of looking after her (wait, boy or girl…I forget in all the chit chat). ALL babies deserve a safe & loving environment & when people like China Arnold have kids they should be forcibly removed AT BIRTH & given to people who have the capacity to love & support & raise them properly!

    And Talish…if the bitch was my cousin I would be TOO ASHAMED to admit it!

  266. Wait a sec talish…you say that the evidence was in someone else’s microwave…so China was so drunk that she didn’t nitice someone TAKING HER BABY AWAY…what the fuck?????

    I’m sorry if I am repeating myself here but China Arnold was a BAD PARENT. She was found guilty by a jury of her peers & now she must serve her time.

    Sure, the legal system has been known on occasion to get the worng person but in this case, even if she didn’t actrually kill Paris she was an accessory by way of neglect & deserves hard time for it.

    That poor little baby didn’t ask to be born, especially not to a woman who had no intention of looking after her (wait, boy or girl…I forget in all the chit chat). ALL babies deserve a safe & loving environment & when people like China Arnold have kids they should be forcibly removed AT BIRTH & given to people who have the capacity to love & support & raise them properly!

    And Talish…if the bitch was my cousin I would be TOO ASHAMED to admit it!

  267. SB

    There was no need to call China Arnold a bitch. All the name calling isn’t necessary. You can state your opinion but as far as everything else goes please have respect. It’s not that deep for you to pull out the name calling card. what are we? in fifth grade??

    1. china’s a bitch, and so are you for defending that c-word.

  268. SB

    There was no need to call China Arnold a bitch. All the name calling isn’t necessary. You can state your opinion but as far as everything else goes please have respect. It’s not that deep for you to pull out the name calling card. what are we? in fifth grade??

    1. china’s a bitch, and so are you for defending that c-word.

  269. I just can’t believe all the defense this girl is getting!! If my sister, mom, cousin, whatever did anything to harm any child on purpose, I would never stand up for them. Ever.

  270. I just can’t believe all the defense this girl is getting!! If my sister, mom, cousin, whatever did anything to harm any child on purpose, I would never stand up for them. Ever.

  271. IAlsoHaveADaughter

    Hello all… I am a little confused. Knowing that my daughter who is now 9 has over the years has had her trying moments, I have never considered putting her in the microwave along side of my popcorn. I feel that if you are the parent and head of the household, you and only you are ultimately responisble for all activities occuring within that house. Just a thought.

  272. IAlsoHaveADaughter

    Hello all… I am a little confused. Knowing that my daughter who is now 9 has over the years has had her trying moments, I have never considered putting her in the microwave along side of my popcorn. I feel that if you are the parent and head of the household, you and only you are ultimately responisble for all activities occuring within that house. Just a thought.

  273. Just a quick update – a judge just ruled today during her re-trial prosecutors can seek the death penalty. Jury selection for the new trial are supposed to star 4.25.11. Here’s hoping little Paris may finally get some justice.

    http://www.wdtn.com/dpp/news/china-arnold-could-face-death-penalty

    1. Thanks for the update.

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