China Arnold Accused of Microwaving Baby to Death
Oh Holy God. I know I say “this is the worst thing I’ve ever read” at least once a month week, but…truly, folks. This may be the chart-topper. China Arnold’s three-week-old baby, Paris Talley, died last year with an abnormally high body temperature. Over one year later, police have arrested the 26-year-old on charges that she stuck her child in the microwave and pressed the “Baby” shortcut button.
What took so long to bust the bitch? The method of execution. Little is known about what effect microwave radiation will have on a child because…well, because no one’s been cruel and inhumane enough to commit such an atrocity. Sure, folks have floated the idea of using microwaves against electronics equipment and grown humans…but babies? And at the hands of one’s own mother nonetheless? Jesus. What an awful, awful way to die.
What are the prosecution’s chances of proving this case in court? I don’t know. I imagine most of their case will boil down to scientific testimony, an exclusion of all other possibilities, and an assault on the mother’s character. If China Arnold’s defense can float one or two alternative theories of death, it may be enough to keep her out of jail.
There seems to be little information about Arnold available. Was she in trouble with child services before this? If anyone can testify to this woman’s character as either a person or a mother, speak up.
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April 19th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Useless waste of skin? That’s a rude comment. You don’t even know her and flat out nobody cares what you do with your kids but i bet you can’t say that you are a perfect parent because nobody is. Nobody makes 100 percent perfect decisions on their kids and anyway she was gtting beat by her baby’s father sooo oi think that a normal human femle under those type of circumstances would turn to drinking depending on the way your brain works. Everybody is not you SB clearly you are sayins she shouldhave made the same choices you are making now. Yea some responsibility is on her because she is the moher but that’s not the point…she is still i jail for life for a murder that she didn’t commit. Thats the big picture. POINT BLANK. That is all there is to it. That’s not fair. AND i bet you that your children turn out as ruthlesss as you are for saying that bull about my cousin in your comment “Hopefully she is violently brutalised while in prison by other inmates”. That was rude for real.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:17 am
I never claimed to be a perfect parent but I never microwaved my baby & I never got so drunk while I was looking after her that someone else was able to microwave her.
The bitch deserves everything she gets…that’s my opinion & I am entitled to voice it…just like you are entitled to defend the oxygen thieving BAD MOTHER.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:06 am
Right…so decide to speak false remarks saying that she put her baby in the microwave. You don’t even know unless you were there. So yea u are able to make speak your voice but shutup if you don’t even know what you are talking about unless you were there…which you were’nt…so that means you dont know shit flatout.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:08 am
AND im not defending her getting drunk if that’s what happened, im saying that she is in jail for a crime she didn’t commit. Ok she wasn’t watching her kid, so someone call social services but is it worth everything she is going through right now?
April 21st, 2009 at 7:05 am
YES. Because her baby is dead, murdered horrifically. She didn’t do it? A jury of her peers and a WHOLE lot of evidence says she did. And if she didn’t do it, she allowed someone else to do it by caring far more about getting her drink on than about making sure her baby was safe and protected.
Should people go to prison just for being crappy parents? ABSOLUTELY! Should they rot in prison for the rest of their miserable lives if their parental crapiness results in the death of their child? YOU BET!
April 21st, 2009 at 8:47 am
IHKT:
Damn! You rock! I don’t even have anything to add to that one…..
April 21st, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Thanks Angel. To my way of thinking the only creature on the planet more detestable than someone who murders her child is the creature who DEFENDS her!
April 21st, 2009 at 12:26 pm
I agree.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:59 pm
are you kidding? you actually think her lawyer is worse than her. her lawyer who was doing his job trying his best to give her a fair trial is worse than someone who murders their child? the lawyer didnt take anyones life in fact newsflash he LOST this trial. but hes worse right? you are insane so if you really think that you would rather him be in prison for life than her? what a nut
April 21st, 2009 at 1:00 pm
everyone hates lawyers until they need one
April 21st, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Sheri, if you would have read further back on the blog, you’d see I’m referring to “Tejal” who claimed to know the killer and was defending her. As rotten as I think ALL lawyers are (and I’m related to a few), I realize that defense attorneys are a necessary evil. And really, what defense attorney ever knows for sure if the person he’s defending is or isn’t innocent? To do his job right, he pretty much has to take it on faith that they are innocent.
I think if you read Tejal’s comments you’ll see that he/she is NO defense attorney – just a person who can’t accept the truth that someone they know did something really horrible and went to jail for it.
April 21st, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Sherri said:
“you actually think her lawyer is worse than her.”
If you would read the comments in context, you would see that the one being referred to is the person on this blog who is defending the murderer. I realize that attorneys have to defend criminals. That is their job, and what they get paid for. That is a far cry from a friend or family member who should be more concerned about the victim than the killer. In the future, if you are not going to read all of the comments, in order to make a more informed judgment, please don’t bother. It makes you look silly.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:30 pm
ok so her family member is worse than her…uh yea thats even better–nobody knows if shes guilty or not. obviously she is guilty of something but nobody knows if it is aggravated murder. of coure tefal is going to defend her what do you think. so Tejal should be in prison than instead of china right?
April 21st, 2009 at 4:33 pm
and angel if you are going to repeat everything ihavekidstoo is saying maybe you shouldnt bother it makes you look silly, kind of like you dont have a mind of your own
April 21st, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Actually Sherri, I’m wondering why anyone is bothering to argue with you at all, considering how completely freakin stupid you keep making yourself look. I mean, you can’t fix stupid…you just can’t. *shrugs* The best thing to do is to simply ignore you as it’s not as if anyone is going to get any sense into that great big fat head of yours. Just remember, I didn’t make reality, I just verbally bitch slapped you with it. ^__^
April 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pm
I didn’t repeat a thing. I posted my comment after reading your comment, but before reading hers, thanks. I would get in to a battle of wits with you, but I don’t like to fight someone who is unarmed.
And yes, if people keep making excuses for killers, then we end up with more killers, because they think they can get away with it. If society as a whole would stop condoning and enabling these degenerates, and start giving them the punishment they deserve; well, then we might begin to see a decrease in these type crimes, instead of a steady increase. So, in that way, the enablers are just as bad – if not, worse – than the killers themselves. Because of their whiny, psycho-babble, bleeding-heart excuses, more killers are created, or at the very least, encouraged to try this method of releasing themselves from their responsibilities.
And speaking of looking silly: maybe you should try honing your capitalization, punctuation and grammar skills if you get a chance.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:46 pm
OMH:
I was writing at the same time you were. I guess you got done first. Thanks for the laugh…I had to pick myself up off of the floor after reading your reply to Sherri. Still LMAO.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:49 pm
First of all I did not know it was important to use correct punctuation in order to get a point across on a blog. But if that is what you need here you go. For your information I was not defending China or her actions, if you look at MY previous post on April 3 I said. . .
it was proven at trial that this little boy who ‘did it’ was not in even in the same city at the time Paris was killed. he said he was here on his birthday or something and he remembered his uncle being there and his birthday and the time of the uncles visits were months apart from the death. Also it is alleged that china told people in the jail that the father of this boy who ‘did it’ wants to get with china and therefore he talked his kid into confessing to get china out so they could be together
Sorry there is not correct punctuation that was before I was aware of the ‘rules of the blog’. I am simply making a point for both sides. Nobody is worse than the guilty party not the lawyer nor someone who truly believes her innocence. That was the point of my last few blogs.
Furthermore I am sure we do not need to argue intelligence on a China Arnold blog, because trust me there is no competition. This blog is to discuss her guilt/innocent maybe you should stick to that–you just make yourself look petty.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Enablers and those who try to excuse such heinous actions are murderers of society. And they cheapen the memories of those who suffered at the hands of such monsters.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:00 pm
I don’t know what is so ’stupid’ about questioning why you think someone defending her is worse than her? I still don’t get it I mean I understand I misunderstood who you were speaking about at first but you know what I’m talking about now and I hope that you answer. I don’t know Tejal and I’m surely not related to China but I’m pretty much sure Tejal isn’t worse. If I’m still off on what you were trying to say please correct me. But if you are going to get all defensive and just throw out insults instead whatever that is just rude.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Ok I see what you’re saying. But this case is so crazy because nobody truly knows. I honestly think that China doesn’t even know! I’m surprised that she got convicted on aggravated murder without a confession or witness. So I really don’t know what to think about it all. I really think it was a kid that did it. She had four other kids and nothing happened to them, this was her first girl. And I think the defense was trying to say with the level of her intoxication it was impossible to function enough to do such an act. She was almost in a coma–she was drinking 151 and at the time of the crime she was a lot smaller than she is now, so it wouldn’t take much!
April 21st, 2009 at 5:06 pm
I have tried to explain it twice, now. People who defend monsters, become monsters themselves. Monsters by association, you might say. If fewer people tried to condone and lessen the importance of these actions, fewer people would think, “Hey, maybe I could get away with that, too.” Burying one’s head in the sand doesn’t change the situation; in fact, it exacerbates the problem. That’s how they can be just as bad…or worse.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:11 pm
I was typing a reply to your previous comment while you were posting the one above mine. Sorry if I seem redundant. Whether China did it or not has become irrelevant to me at this point. She is at the very least a negligent parent. She is being punished for it. As it should be.
Tejal is still trying to defend her, though, which makes him an enabler…still. Do you see my point? I am not trying to be petty, here, but I would like you to understand why I think that the defenders are horrible.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:12 pm
I’m agreeing with you! All that I’m saying is that in this case I really think the prosecution wanted a conviction at all costs. She was the only lead and it took 2 years to arrest her! Meaning at first they didn’t think it was even her. I don’t think being on China’s side especially if you are a family member is so bad in this case. Even though she was found guilty by a jury I don’t think anyone knows if she did it.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Ok we keep typing at the same time, sorry lol. I see your point but do you really think a negligent parent deserves life in prison because of someone elses actions (if it was someone else).
April 21st, 2009 at 5:25 pm
I believe that if a parent allows herself to be in such a condition that she cannot protect her children, and her child dies as a result; then yes, she deserves life in prison. It’s the same as drunk driving. Drunk parenting costs lives. If she needed to get drunk so badly, she should have hired a sitter.
Look at it like this: If a person gets drunk and drives, but his sober passenger reaches over and grabs the wheel, causing him to run over a pedestrian, who is to blame? Both are. Equally. If the driver hadn’t been drunk, he might have been able to correct the turn in time to miss the pedestrian. If the passenger hadn’t grabbed the wheel the accident might not have happened, either. Both guilty, both murderers. That may not be the best example to get my point across, but it is the best I can come up with in the middle of dinner preparation….
April 21st, 2009 at 5:34 pm
That is a good point I see exactly what you are saying. I’m just torn on this case because she did have a babysitter who left when she got home. She got home really late it was bedtime and I think if she wasn’t drunk she would have been sleeping anyway. I just find it hard to place liability on a parent for third party actions. I’m not a mother I’m only 22 and still in school, I don’t plan on being a negligent mom but I can’t imagine being guilty for the murder someone else committed just because of the parental relationship. Oh well though hopefully time will tell and maybe one day the truth will come out. But if she is guilty I say thank God she is imprisoned and kept away from civilized society.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:44 pm
A responsible parent will not knowingly make him/herself the sole caregiver for their children when they know (or at least, should know) that they are in no condition to provide care for said children.
There is a big difference between sleeping and drunk. If I am drunk, and my kid gets hurt, I cannot drive him to the hospital, or help him. If I am asleep, I can wake up, and drive my kid to the hospital without having to wait for a sober driver to arrive. However, I usually do not go to sleep until all of my children are in bed, anyway. And I certainly would not go to sleep and leave an infant or small child alone with other children running around. That’s just asking for trouble. It’s hard enough to keep kids calm when you are awake to monitor them – if you go to sleep, the kids have free rein to wreak havoc on whatever they can find to get in to. Even good kids can accidentally hurt an infant…and it only takes a second to snuff out a life.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Sherri, I see your point aboutTejal being “worse.” I actually said someone like Tejal who defends a person who’s done what China Arnold did is more “destable,” not “worse.” Is he/she as bad as a murderer? Of course not. But I detest such people even MORE than murderers in some ways because, as Angel pointed out, these people make a horrific situation even worse by enabling the murderer to maintain some pretense that he/she is innocent. One could argue that anyone who murders a child is beyond contempt, but someone who speaks in DEFENSE of the murderer (not an attorney) deserves our contempt because that person is supposedly NOT beyond redemption.
I personally believe China Arnold nuked her own baby without any help. But if she didn’t, her drunkeness certainly created the opportunity for someone else to do it. Ultimately, a mother is a child’s first, last and best defense against the evils of the world – or SHOULD be. When a mother fails to protect her child through her own negligence, then she’s as guilty as the person who perpetrates the evil. Accidents happen, tragically, and there will always be some things in this life that we just can’t protect our children from. But our own negligence and inattention should not be on that list.
Sorry for the long, soapboxy post, but people who try to protect the guilty really chap my ass!
April 21st, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Have you tried wearing longer britches to prevent the chapping, IHKT? lol
Sorry, I just had to go there…..
April 21st, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Angel, LMAO. These days, even high-waist waders don’t seem to do the trick!
April 22nd, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Ok so you are saying that because i know a person and i know their personality and who they are and what they do through life, i am as bad as her because of me defending her? I’m a creature… A HORRIBLE CREATURE! whoa that’s cool. Actually I’m a 16 year old girl who knows that China Arnold’s rights were violated when her jury was nothing like her. And you guys say that she is a bad parent because she left her baby unattended? ok i see where you are coming from with her getting drunk. But i also read a statement from one of you guys and you basically said that she should take full responsibility because of the baby’s death…WRONG!…the baby had a father (WOW! BLACK PEOPLE HAVE FATHERS???) and i dont hear anything bout him. The facts weren’t present in the courtroom because if you would have kept up with the case (which you definetly haven’t) then you would know that the court had decided to not use two statements. One from a little boy stating that he saw the baby being put in the microwave by a young boy and another from a women in jail stating that the police paid her to lie on China. Right…i think that yall are seeing things from one side and that’s just saying she is guilty. If I’m a monster for defending her then it’s ok because i don’t care me and my whole family are monsters then…whatever. Put yourselves in our shoes. Yall tooo busy judging people by appearences and the fake media(RUMORS ANYBODY?). I’m not saying that she’s completly innocent but she didn’t put her baby in the microwave.
P.S. AND I’m not a monster thank you very much. I get very good grades…no excellent graes and im level headed. It’s funny how i see the holes in the system and i am a kid and yall dont.
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:40 am
That baby’s death wasn’t caused by holes in the system….it was caused because the responsible party would rather drink than take care of her child. That is NEGLIGENCE. A death resulting from negligence is negligent homicide. It deserves jail time – and, in a case like this, where an infant is the one to die – lots of jail time.
I never said that she actually put the child in the microwave. Actually, I believe I said in one of my previous posts that that particular fact has become irrelevant at this point. I said that her baby died because she was drunk. And that is a fact. If the father was in the house at the time, he should face charges as well, in my opinion. It was as much his responsibility as hers, at that point. But if he was not – then it’s all on her.
And I will repeat – those who make excuses for people who cause the death of infants, are part of the reason that the judicial system is as screwed up as it is. At only sixteen, I can almost see why you do not understand this concept yet. You are still young enough that you believe if we love someone enough, then that will compensate for any errors they might make. As you grow and mature, hopefully, you will understand more of how justice really works, and that loving someone is not the same thing as excusing them. And that you CAN condemn the actions without hating the person. But, as long as people continue to gloss over the crime in order to ‘prove’ their love for a person, things will never change – and people will continue to commit heinous crimes with the expectation that all will be forgotten if they can just find someone else to cast part of the blame on. It is a self-perpetuating cycle, and a self-fulfilling prophesy.
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:46 pm
I dont feel that anyone on this website should comment on why we as family members claim that she is innocent…. First China has came from a big family where her grandmother has 14 kids… And we as a family knows that China is innocent because no one in our family would never do a horrible thing to our children…. And we will continue to fight for her innocence…
I personally think China was wrong for being drunk but she did have a baby sitter, Now thats the thing that China was guilty about was drinking and she admitted that she was drinking a 151… but she also got beat by Paris father because he thought that wasnt his child… Well in Court, he was determine Paris father…..
Well the people on this website who is thinking she did it, I feel like yall can say what yall want…
This is why we as a family IN FACT KNOWS SHE INNOCENT….
1. she took a lie detector test, and she pass it…
2. The lil boy who claim to have done it family lived right next door to China, the family of the lil boy moved out the next day it happen.
3. There was no evidence found in China microwave the only evidence that was found in her microwave was milk from the baby bottle….
4. The Prosecutor Matt Heck paid people to lie on her he paid between 3,000-4,000 dollars to lie…
5. One of the main witnesses on the prosecutor side she had change her testimony in court and told the truth because she didnt wont that in her heart of her lying on china… She was the one who got paid 3,000-4,000 dollars… And the Prosecutors was harassing her… And also Prosecutors also made her baby heart drop when she was 8 months pregnant…
6. A lil boy who was 5 at the time seen china’s case on tv, stood up and told his father that he pulled daughter out the microwave, after his cousin put her in there…
7. After the trial was over the family of Paris father side moved to Flordia…
There are many reason that we know for a fact that she is innocent…
And for the records China has three other kids who in fact miss their mother…
Now but yourself in her shoes getting beat by the man who you thought you loved and wake up to feel your daughters touch to relize that she’s not breathing… and for the records Paris father KNOWS what happen to her he woke china up to ask China whats wrong with my baby and deep down inside he knew…. China rush her to the hospital where she was prenouced dead… the police took them both to jail and the father was released… This man has domestic volence on his record…. after chinawas released on after the baby death because they didnt have any evidence the father was calling her asking her did she talk to the police and what did she tell them Now thats guilty…
And Also China did not have a jury of her peers!!!
China my cousin and she not no monster…. Know the facts first…
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Talish:
A psychopath can pass a lie detector, too….that’s why they are inadmissible in a court of law.
And if witnesses are being paid three or four thousand dollars to lie……where the hell can I sign up for that job?! I could lie maybe once or twice a month, and – hey! – I got it made, baby!
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Angel:
Lol!!!
Yea, they got paid in living expense. And they lies got my cousin LIFE sentence!!! And honey, you would not want to do thats because they was harassing people….
And we had a lot of witnesses on our side but the prosecutors told them that they would be called snitches if they tell the truth…. So the kids who we had didnt want to do it because of that….
and the boy who did it went to school the next day describing the way he killed her, the school had to call the police and the mother because the way he was described it was horrifling….
by the time the police got up there the lil boy was gone and they removed him from the school…. And the school that he went to they closed down by the time the trial had begun…
I dont know why they are saving that devil child but I promise god will get you!!
My cousin should be facing up to 5 years not no life thats crazy…
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Talish, people might find you a little more credible if you would use proper language when commenting. Your comments show your age. Time and time again the others have said that whether or not she actually put the baby in the microwave is irrelevant and this point. The fact that she was so drunk made her negligent, thus contributing to her daughter’s death. And that comment you made about black people do have dads… that was out of line. No one else made this a race issue. You keep saying she didnt have a jury of her peers, please do elaborate on that. (In case you dont know what that means, that means please explain why you say that) You totally contradict yourself in your last post. First you say there was no evidence that the baby was in the microwave, then you say that the kid admitted to taking the baby out of the microwave??? Which is it?? You cant have it both ways.
Either way. Whether she put the baby in the microwave or not. She is still guilty and she is where she needs to be. You simply do not get so drunk that you dont know what in the hell you are doing, not when you have children to take care of!! Yeah she had a sitter, so why not ask that sitter to stay the rest of the night?
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Samantha:
First, When you read people comments you need to look at who wrote the comments because I didnt say any thing about black men…. I’m 21 years old, married, have three children, and also going to college…. So don’t do that if you dont know what you are talking about…
Okay, China’s Microwave was not use in this crime there were no evidence stating that the baby body was in there….
Like I said there was a lil boy who has history of killing animals in the microwave and at the time of PAris death the family moved the next day… because the evidence was in their microwave!!
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Talish:
What college do you attend? I want to make sure NONE of my children go there. You need remedial English/Grammar classes. You also need to spell and punctuate your sentences properly. That is what Samantha meant when she said that you show your age. Your comments make you sound like a fifth grader.
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:25 pm
WELL, I’M SORRY THAT MY SENTENCE SOUND LIKE A FIFTH GRADER LOL! BUT ANGEL I UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE HELL SHE MEANT. WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS REPEATING WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING ON HERE!!
I’M IN A RUSH TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE SITUATIONS ABOUT MY COUSIN BECAUSE PEOPLE ON HERE TRYING TO MAKE HER OUT TO BE A MONSTER.
I UNDERSTOOD WHAT SHE SAID I JUST DIDNT UNDERSTAND WHEN SHE SAID THAT I SAID SOMETHING ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE DONT HAVE FATHERS….
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Caps lock is on.
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Wait a sec talish…you say that the evidence was in someone else’s microwave…so China was so drunk that she didn’t nitice someone TAKING HER BABY AWAY…what the fuck?????
I’m sorry if I am repeating myself here but China Arnold was a BAD PARENT. She was found guilty by a jury of her peers & now she must serve her time.
Sure, the legal system has been known on occasion to get the worng person but in this case, even if she didn’t actrually kill Paris she was an accessory by way of neglect & deserves hard time for it.
That poor little baby didn’t ask to be born, especially not to a woman who had no intention of looking after her (wait, boy or girl…I forget in all the chit chat). ALL babies deserve a safe & loving environment & when people like China Arnold have kids they should be forcibly removed AT BIRTH & given to people who have the capacity to love & support & raise them properly!
And Talish…if the bitch was my cousin I would be TOO ASHAMED to admit it!
May 16th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
SB
There was no need to call China Arnold a bitch. All the name calling isn’t necessary. You can state your opinion but as far as everything else goes please have respect. It’s not that deep for you to pull out the name calling card. what are we? in fifth grade??
November 11th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
china’s a bitch, and so are you for defending that c-word.
November 11th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
I just can’t believe all the defense this girl is getting!! If my sister, mom, cousin, whatever did anything to harm any child on purpose, I would never stand up for them. Ever.