Albert Cabrera, 48, charged with raping his drunk daughter.
After a night of wholesome family drinking at the local Mexican restaurant, Albert Cabrera, his daughter and her step mother returned home where they continued to drink and play pool.
Cabrera’s daughter, having had too much to drink, went to the bathroom where she passed out.
She awoke in her half-sister’s bedroom, with her father on top of her. According to the affidavit, she allegedly heard him say, “I can’t believe I’m having sex with my daughter.”
After charges were brought against Cabrera, he didn’t deny having sex with his daughter, but told police “perhaps (she) wanted to have sex with him as a way of father-daughter bonding”.
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April 27th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
DR. ALBERT CABRERA IS INNOCENT….HIS DAUGHTER EVELYN GARCIA McCASLAW AGE 29.WHO HAS BEEN CONVICTED WITH SEVERAL DUI’S INCLUDING CHILD ENDANGERMENT FOR LEAVING HER CHILD IN HER CAR WHILE INTOXICATED. SHE WAS BRIBED TO LIE AGAINST HER FATHER BY (CARMEN VALERIA MIRANDA HIS DOMESTIC WORKER). FOR EVELYN IT MUST OF BEEN EASY, CONSIDERING SHE GREW A GRUDGE AGAINST HER FATHER SINCE SHE WAS A CHILD DUE TO DR. CABRERA NOT MARRING HER MOTHER. CARMEN VALERIA MIRANDA NEW THE SITUATION; WHICH SHE TOOK FULL ADVANTAGE OF EVELYN BY USING HER TO LIE AGAINST HER FATHER. IN ORDER TO PUT HIM IN JAIL. WHILE DR. CABRERA INCARCERATED CARMAN VALERIA MIRANDA, AND AIDA MIRANDA HER MOTHER FORGED DR. CABRERA’S NAME TO EMPTY ALL IS BANK ACCOUNTS, MAX OUT ALL HIS CREDIT CARDS, SOLD ALL HIS ASSETS INCLUDING HIS CLINIC, WITH THE HELP OF LAWYER ROBERT WADE, AND HIS WIFE GLORIA ORIGINALLY FROM CUBA, AND LAWYER CHRISTOPHER WAGNER. THEY HELPED CARMAN VALERIA MIRANDA DESTROY HIS LIFE IN ORDER TO A QUIRE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM HIS PROPERTIES…..BEWARE OF THESE LAWYERS AND CARMAN VALERIA MIRANDA, THEY DO NOT PRACTICE ETHICS……BEWARE..BEWARE…. THE LAWYERS ARE LOCATED IN RIVERSIDE AND THE LOS ANGELES AREA. CARMAN MIRANDA VALERIA FLED TO SOUTH CAROLINA WITH A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY…….I HAVE KNOWN DR. ALBERT CABRERA FOR OVER THIRTY YEARS, I HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO GO TO SCHOOL WITH DR. CABRERA. HE GRADUATED WITH HONORS…..FURTHERMORE CARMEN VALERIA MIRANDA AND HER MOTHER AIDA WERE ILLEGAL IN THIS COUNTRY WHICH DR. ALBERT CABRERA DID NOT KNOW WHEN SHE STARTED WORKING AS A MAID IN HIS HOME. THEY USED HIS GOOD NAME TO BECOME LEGAL RESIDENCE IN THIS COUNTRY WITH THE HELP OF LAWYER ROBERT WADE AND HIS WIFE GLORIA, AND LAYWER CHISTOPHER WAGNER.
April 27th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Maybe if you didn’t type in all tard caps we might be more willing to read that mile long post. I have no interest in wading through that tard rant to see what point you are trying to make. How about you post links to some source that claims you a innocent instead of hurting our brains with fucking CAPS!! Shit.
April 27th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Hey asshole, he admitted to fucking his daughter. He was found guilty of the charges. I’m glad those women took everything he had (according to you, an idiot). Besides, I don’t think Bubba takes cash, just buttholes.
June 20th, 2009 at 2:18 am
just for Dr smith. albert cabrera is in jail!!! are you saying an innocent person is sitting behind bars?
WOW! like i said karma, karma, karma. i can remember when he was pointing fingers in a court room. because of alberts and his neighbors lies they sent a very innocent girl to jail.
what he did was wrong and now he will have nothing but time to think about everyone he has hurt. i do wonder ,if he even cares.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Who cares??? He deserves to lose everything.
April 6th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
DR. CABRERA’S DAUGHTER EVELYN GARCIA McCASLAW WHO IS 28 YEARS OLD DIVORCED MOTHER WHO HAS BEEN ARRESTED 3-4 TIMES FOR DRUNK DRIVING (DUI) BEFORE THIS CASE. AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME SHE HAS TAKEN HER FATHER TO COURT TO GET MONEY FROM HIM…..DR. CABRERA IS INOCENT
April 6th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
FURTHERMORE HIS EX GIRLFRIEND (CARMAN VALERIA MIRANDA) AND HER MOTHER (AIDA MIRANDA) FLED TO SOUTH CAROLINA AFTER SPLITTING THE MONEY WITH THE TWO LAWYERS ROBERT WADE (FROM L.A. AREA.) HIS WIFE GLORIA(FROM CUBA) , LAWYER CHRISTOPHER WAGNER (FORM L.A. AREA) AND EVELYN GARCIA McCASLAW (DAUGHTER OF DR. ALBERT CABRERA)
AFTER STEALING ALL DR. CABRERA ASSETS…
April 6th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
ALERT ALERT NEWS ABOUT THE DENTIST DR. ALBERT CABRERA. CURRENT NEWS
DR. CABRERA’S EX GIRLFRIEND (CARMAN VALERIA MIRANDA FROM NICARAGUA NOT A USA CITIZEN) , MOTHER OF CARMAN (AIDA MIRANDA) , DAUGHTER OF DR. ALBERT CABRERA (EVELYN GARCIA McCASLAW) AND LAWYER ROBET WADE (FORM L.A. AREA) AND HIS WIFE GLORIA (FROM CUBA) AND LAWYER CHRISTOPHER WAGNER FROM THE LOS ANGELES AREA… ALL SIX PEOPLE PLOTTED TOGETHER TO COMMIT CONSPIRICY AND EXTORTION. WHILE DR. ALBERT CABRERA IS INCARSERATED THEY SOLD ALL HIS ASSETS AND SPLIT IT SIX WAYS..
CAUTION: THIS COULD HAPPEN TO YOU
IF YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL MAN OR WOMEN
August 15th, 2008 at 10:54 am
hummmm, he was found GUILTY, life sucks for you.
July 9th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
i know this guy, he has lied on the stand before and im sure he will do it again. this idiot sent an innocent girl to jail for a crime she did not do.
this guy is a loser, boozer,lowlife punk.trying to keep up with the big boys, well now you will have all the big boys you will ever need.
isnt it strange how karma comes back around and bites you in the ass.
As for his daughter, my thoughts and prayers are with you.
hey step mom, where the hell were you when all this was taking place? let me guess DRUNK again.
April 24th, 2008 at 8:11 am
What a SICKO! I am glad he wasn’t my dentist either. Sheesh. This probably wasn’t his first time doing something like this, just probably the first time he got caught. I wonder what the legal statutes are, if his patients can sue his ass, even without evidence, or if confronted if he would own up to doing it to other people, after all sounds like he was pretty quick to admit what he did was his daughter told on him.
I wonder what’s happening with the wife. Has she left his ass, or did she know what he was doing to his own kid? If she knew, she ought to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law as well. If she didn’t know, I hope she has told that loser to be expecting divorce papers while he sits in the brig.
October 18th, 2007 at 9:16 pm
This is as sick as it gets. I am so grateful that I have a wonderful father who never did anything inappropriate in any way around us. He never drank, did drugs, or even used profanity much less something as horrible as this. As a matter of fact, I remember him saying many times that he believes that there should be a death penalty for rape, as do I. But, something like this…is beyond disgusting and sick. This guy should pay in the harshest of ways. Seriously….and his justification…his comments…were totally off the wall. He is a sick animal.
September 24th, 2007 at 12:22 pm
I want to be part of the case study, too! That’s no fair! I’m a housewife with typical American Housewife beliefs. I think incest is sick at any age and I agree it’s kept quiet when it does occur because it’s a crime in the eyes of most countries (3rd world ones included). Do we have incest in America? Sure we do, but we don’t excuse the perpetrator in court by saying, “Mr. John Doe BELIEVED it was his religious right to have sex with his children. Therefore we should set him free and return his children to him for further abuse!” Mr/Ms. Davis – If this crime had been committed in many other countries/cultures than here, he would be facing much worse than prison time. Stoning, burning and castration come to mind. I have friends from India and they take offense that you would speak out that it’s normal for that to occur in their country. Just for the record, in most places where a child would witness their parents having intercourse, it is not like a XXX movie or anything. The families are poor with little bedrooms in their small homes and intercourse is often done for procreation purposes with little pleasure being had by either (especially women who are castrated)! If you have some sick mind that believes Jenna Jameson and Ron Jeremy are acting out some wild sex scenes in front of kids in India, you are out of your ever lovin mind!
So, add my shallow opinion to your case study and turn in your real beliefs about incest and child pornography being okay to your professor and tell us what kind of grade you get on that term paper!
September 3rd, 2007 at 3:56 am
LOL suki!!!
I don’t think we are interesting enough though. We probably all have stereotypical “housewife” sex lives with our husbands or significant others. We don’t have to drug them or get them drunk first. We don’t even have any sexual feelings towards our children or parents!!! Imagine that!
We would not prove ANY of the points he would want us to prove.
September 2nd, 2007 at 4:39 pm
His argument is lame. Don’t bother. But on another note, we’re all going to be part of his case study!
September 2nd, 2007 at 11:58 am
rddavis0313:
I really don’t understand how you saying that some cultures accept incest has anything to do with this specific case. This woman was unconscious, passed out drunk on the bathroom floor. Having sex with someone who cannot give consent, whether you are related to them or not (whether you think they were giving you “signals” or not), is rape. And rape is illegal. What argument is it, that you even have?
September 1st, 2007 at 10:25 pm
nat, this is for you, I received this today from a Native American friend of mine, and I thought is was perfect to share with you this insight into some past Native American ways that I have been taught close to where I live. This came to me totally unsolicited and was actually regarding an issue with a circle of friends, one of those friends who has been suffering in a relationship of abuse, etc. I hope you enjoy this, and it gives you some insight on how other Native’s handled the subject of rape and abuse within their own community in the past. Much peace to you! (this may be long, sorry, but I so feel alot of you will agree with this and how it relates to this blog and the comments made by rddavis0313!). I have intentionally left the name of the person who sent this, but I will tell you it was a male!
“Now, I am not betraying anyone’s trust because this is just a general opinion type of thing with no names mentioned. Nor will I ever betray anyone’s trust in me or pass on anyones details. I CAN be trusted.
So, that being said, let me say this to the men. If you beat your wife and/ or kids, you are not much of a man. If you were abused as a kid and can’t help yourself, seek professional help. If you are continuing to do this and you think it’s your right because you are the man of the house, then you are a fool and a coward for hurting your family.
Men we can only use the excuse, I have anger issues, so long. And if we are not seeking help, then we are just as bad or worse than the person who did it to us.
I guess my heart is sick of all the hurt and distorted lives that I’ve encountered.
Man, if you can’t afford to get help, there are organizations that will get you help. So don’t give me that excuse.
And I don’t like macho butts who think that they are God’s gift to women.
Get off it and come to your senses.
Now, I maybe a little over zealous in my trying to help women and children get away from these guys. But that is because I was an abused child also and had to get help and recovery from the anger myself. So I understand. But I do not excuse this behavior.
IF YOU GOT A DRUG PROBLEM, GET HELP!
IF YOU GOT A BOOZE PROBLEM, GET HELP!
IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEM, FOR GOD’S SAKE GET HELP!!
NATIVE PEOPLE HAVE ENOUGH ABUSE PERPETUATED ON THEM BY THIS SYSTEM WITHOUT THE MEN ADDING TO IT.
And if you’re white and beating a Native womanand/ or her kids, …………………..yeah well, we had the old way of dealing with that.
Maybe we should bring back the old way of dealing with these things.
And I don’t wanna hear this crap that man was ordained as the head of the house hold by the Creator. Any leader who ain’t doing right by those they are supposed to be taking care of, is no longer in charge.
And men what happened to guys providing for their wives?
How many men do I know that make their ladies work their butts off, while the man runs with his pals or messes with another woman? A lot.
But the worst of the lot are these abusers and rapists.
Let me tell you how the handled abusers in my grandpas day.
(1) The family of the woman went to talk to the husband.
(2) If that didn’t work then a delegation was sent to the man’s house among them was the Headman of that town. They did not ask they told the man to stop.
(3) If that didn’t work, the man was taken and tied to a tree or wheel and was flogged severely and told to stop.
(4) If that didn’t work, the man was taken to the edge of town tarred and feathered and was told to leave and never come back. The wife was given all the house hold possessions, because, by the old ways that I was taught, the wife owned the house and house hold goods and the lands around it. The family then took care of the woman until she remarried or she stayed with her family. If no family was available then the whole town pitched in.
It’s called community folks. That’s the way it used to be.
(5) If the man came back, he was executed for disobeying the town edict.
Rapists were either executed or put in a grass hut with the offending member nailed to a very heavy log that one man couldn’t lift. The hut was set on fire. The rapist could either burn to death or cut his offending member off with a knife that he was provided to do so with. And he might bleed to death any way.
Not many rapists back in those days. I wonder why?”
September 1st, 2007 at 2:47 pm
At what point does someone look at their child and think, “Maybe I should sleep with my daughter”? Normally, this doesn’t happen in parent’s heads. This man took advantage of his own child. He tried to make it sound like “it just happened”, but as we all no things like this don’t “just happen”. It takes serious premeditation to do something like this. I wonder if it started at the Mexican restaurant where he first let her drink that night.
August 31st, 2007 at 5:32 pm
I stand by what I said, as a matter of fact all of
your comments are ridiculous. YOU have missed the point. HE RAPED HIS DAUGHTER. Nothing you posted has any relevance to this story. I am not impressed by all of your supposed knowledge, it’s all common knowledge! We already know. We are also smart enough to realize that none of it applies to this situation.
August 31st, 2007 at 11:57 am
Hopefully that guy doesn’t have kids.
August 31st, 2007 at 10:45 am
rddavis0313: you also stated in one of your past posts:
“but unfortunately the world cannot be explained in terms of American culture”
Again, this man commited this crime in AMERICA, not in mexico, not in india, not in another part of the world. So, since he lives, breaths, eats, and commits rape towards his child in AMERICA, he is therefore being judged and penalized by AMERICAN culture! No one in any of the posts prior to your nonsense post stated anything about any other countries, etc, you are the one that came here with your examples concerning other countries, etc. and trying to justify some thought process of his, which in turn, we all disagree with! If you can’t handle people debating you on what you claim, then maybe you shouldn’t comment anymore, because yeah, your going to find people who think most of your posts are nonsense because they really have nothing to do with the topic at hand….what the romans did years ago has nothing to do with life today in America! Maybe they need to update your textbooks at your college, give you guys some fresh stuff to learn from, some more modern information, because no one really has learned much of anything from the past, everything keeps repeating itself, so what’s the point in spending so much time worrying about what happened in the past when really times have changed and the world is moving on, things are different, alot more issues facing people now, etc! We don’t live in the stoneage anymore!
August 31st, 2007 at 10:34 am
nat, I didn’t say that native americans didn’t have rape issues, etc, my point is that as a whole, a big majority of native americans do not agree with incest and rape as being a part of their daily life or practices within their culture, same as alot of the other cultures in this country.
rddavis0313…wow, who laid an egg on your parade? You want to say I’m uneducated, ignorant, etc, and yet your calling people names? That’s mature! All you did in your post was copy and paste past occurances in OTHER countries, again, we’re not living in those other countries, we’re in AMERICA, and yes, if someone has a hard time understanding and accepting the “Americanized” way of life, then they don’t need to be here! Is it so wrong for people in America to have morals and values and say that rape and incest are wrong and not tolerated? I am by no means an ignorant housewife, I too am a professional with a degree as well as I graduated from the school of life and hard knocks! I understand we have many ways of thinking in this country, but are you saying that as an AMERICAN society, that when the world trade center was attacked in the name of “god” that we should have just sat back and not bothered to hold those responsible for their actions just because they were expressing their religious beliefs? No, I’m not saying we need to go bomb a whole country, etc, but, when someone comes into this country and goes against the “American” beliefs, laws, etc, then yes, they should be held accountable for their actions, no matter what their cultural beliefs are! You say your doing a study, and that we are being so narrowminded towards you and your opinion, sounds like your being the same way towards us just because we don’t agree with your way of thinking! So your saying that if my 3 year old daughter is innocently sitting in her room playing with her toys, that her dad (based on whatever his “cultural beliefs” are), has the right to go into her room, rape her and then continue the cycle through incest, just because he feels it’s his cultural/religious right to do so? If you agree with that, then your one sick, twisted individual, because I don’t see how that’s acceptable no matter what age someone is! What country are you in, where do you call home rddavis0313? I really would like an answer for that considering you seem so against “American ways”! What is your “nationality”, culture, etc? Where are you coming from that you feel (from what I’m picking up) so much “hatred” towards the “American” way of life? I’m just curious so I can base a better understanding within myself towards you, since you yourself seem so closeminded!
August 31st, 2007 at 10:04 am
I agree with you Susan on most of what you said…But I’ll comment on your statement regarding Native Americans.
“Native Americans are the least represented minority in this country, AND THEY DON’T BELIEVE IN INCEST AND RAPE, even when most of their tribes were being erased by the white man”
Like I’ve said before…I’m 100% Native American and live on a reservation, I don’t speak on behalf of all Natives but…I was a victim of these sick crimes when I was a young girl. Although most people, regardless of tribe, culture etc…don’t “Believe” in rape or incest…it does happen. Sick bastards are out there everywhere….that doesn’t leave any group out, Native American, Hispanic, Asian, African American, Indian and Anglo. I’ve not yet seen one cultural group where everyone is perfect?
I hate the word “Practice incest and rape” that just sounds sick from that dude that keeps posting comments.
Anyway…my overall point is this “dad” is a sick pervert who did the ultimate betrayal.
August 31st, 2007 at 9:42 am
Oh yeah, I’m not representative of the entire Mexican American population (not that it would be a BAD thing
), but neither is that tribe. Incest may be happening and it may be happening with little or no consequences, but there is a reason why it stays hidden. Modern day society as awhole sees it as WRONG. There is no need for it.
August 31st, 2007 at 9:38 am
rddavis0313-
Did I ever insult you personally? No. Everyone does have a right to their opinions. I also have a right to disagree with you and debate you. I’m sorry you have decided to take it so personally.
Secondly, you are a college student huh? Makes you smarter than us “housewives” eh? Too educated for us? I think you may be surprised that alot of the people (including me) on here are college graduates and professionals. So it seems since you can’t take a little debate, YOU are the one getting personal. That is very childish. When you graduate college, get a job, have a family that you have to raise in the REAL world, not the world on paper, maybe you can understand why your opinion is so “unpopular.”
and PLEASE quit with the narrow AMERICANIZED view bullshit. Everytime someone condemns incest, statuatory rape or anything sexual having to do with minors on here, we are accused of being narrow minded Americans. All of these things are crimes that have a victim. Now if you want to have sex with your brother or sister and your brother or sister wants to have sex with you, by all means, go ahead. I reserve the right to think it is disgusting and sick and hope that you don’t have any children. Thats my choice. And since this is America and I can scream my opinion from the rooftops if I want to, just like you can scream yours. I still have the right to try and scream louder.
Also, just to let you know, Freud is a very controversial figure whose ideas and theories are very much disputed in today’s society. Many consider him a joke. I’m one of those people.
Now I know you probably want to rile me up with all the ‘out of touch housewife, narrow minded’ stuff, but you didn’t. Now that I know where you are coming from, I understand why you think the way you do. All your points come from something you read somewhere or something you learned in a classroom. Life experience counts for alot, and when you get a little more, I’ll gladly go over this again with you. Until then. I’m done with you.
August 31st, 2007 at 8:42 am
This will be the last point I am making on the whole subject of this debate and it is directed towards the famous Kathy. Youre comments are found all over this website .. condemnding the people in the stories that are posted and condemning people who post comments. I would like to point out that I read a comment you made in regards to the video of the little girl on ecstasy in response to someone who left an obviously ignorant and rude comment to someone else. Although convienently it has been deleted so I cant quote exactly .. I remember you making a point that EVERYONES opinions should be respected here. I would like to say that you are absolutely a hypocrite because you took the first opportunity to jump on me and attempt to discredit my comment … which if you read back was merely posing QUESTIONS and never drawing any conclusions. Maybe you should follow your own advice so that this forum is more mature because youre responses have absolutely convinced me not to waste my time or opinions here because if they at all contradict what is popular, they will be automatically ridiculed and discredited. Learning a little respect for other peoples opinions would really do you a great service in life, because as soon as you start being insulting and childish, that is the reaction you will receive.
August 31st, 2007 at 7:55 am
And just how do you people know tha American cultures dont practice incest? Obviously because it is illegal and frowned upon it isnt something that it talked about openly. Im sure that by following the same logic you think that because child pornography is illegal, immoral and absolutely disgusting that it doesnt happen in America. Are you serious? I honestly wish I shared the chosen ignorance you both have adopted. Ignorance to reality is bliss.
August 31st, 2007 at 7:53 am
And also, I just reread what Susan said … you really are very ignorant. America is a melting pot of cultures … the point of being an American is the right to choose and pratice your own cultures, traditions, and beliefs. Not to say you shouldnt respect our country … but what would america be if everyone abandoned their beliefs and conformed to YOUR ideals of society. I am so glad you were appointed god of America.
August 31st, 2007 at 7:51 am
I am really dissapointed that you have both wasted a lot of time trying to prove me wrong or argue against me when it is really quite obvious you didn’t read ANYTHING i said or maybe you weren’t able to understand my concept. If it was too advanced, I understand. I am a college and currently studying many issues which you housewives I am sure are out of touch with. I never once stated what he did was right, or wasn’t a crime in America. You have managed to completely mutilate my words and purpose of thought. Therefore, I dont see any point in trying to argue with you since you aren’t making any valid arguments .. again, everything you have said is based on your experience and your emotion. It sucks you were not able to expand your obviously very narrow mind for 5 minutes and try to understand a different perspective. However, I can only come out of this considering myself lucky to not have such a narrow, Americanized view of culture, the way people behave, and the social/cultural/psychological motivations for that behavior. Also, I would like to point out that sociological and ethnographic research is very valid in showing cultural trends and behavior patterns. If we didnt base at least some of our knowledge on this, what research would be “acceptable” to you? Just what you think you know in your head based on your mexican-american culture? I didnt know you were representative of the entire population … And also, if you dont know what I am talking about when presenting a possible Freudian analysis of the situation then maybe you should do some research yourself. And no, I don’t have a particular interest in incest or sexual behavior. I do, however, have a compelling interest in people and behavior patterns. You will all make very … interesting to say the least … participants in my case study.
August 31st, 2007 at 5:41 am
rddavis0313: wow, you must have some kind of true interest in these types of stories!
First off, you stated: “who is ANYONE to say that a sexual relationship between two consenting adults is wrong.” In this story, she daughter was not consenting, if she was, he wouldn’t be in jail right now! Sex between consenting adults is one thing, but in this country, having sex with your child is illegal. You stated “A recent study done found that the childhood in much of India begins with the young child being regularly masturbated by the mother.” We’re not in India, this is America, if people want to practice those parts of their culture, which is against American laws, let them go back to live in THEIR country and do as they see fit! I am so tired of people coming to this country and expecting us to change our laws to suit their cultural beliefs, when clearly their cultural beliefs go against what the laws were clearly put into place to prevent… I’ve said this before, I’ll say it again, IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT IN AMERICA, GO BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY AND QUIT COMING HERE, WE HAVE LAWS THAT EVERYONE MUST FOLLOW, IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT YOUR CULTURE BELIEVES!
Also, I don’t care about what the romans or egytians did, again, we’re IN America, not rome or egypt, so no, I refuse to “do as the romans do”! You stating “Also, it has been shown that in contemporary Indian sexual practices “there is a lot of incest…It is hidden along with other secrets of families and rarely gets a chance to come out” AGAIN, this guy is not in India, he’s in AMERICA, if he’s from India and wants to freely practice incest, HE CAN GO BACK TO INDIA!!
“it is so outrageous so assume that this girl got stuck in the phallic stage of development and therefore is acting out her psychosis through incest?” WTF? First off I’m not sure what the heck your saying here, and second, we’re now blaming the girl herself for her father raping her? Dude you must really have issues yourself, because you are making so many excuses for this father for something he clearly broke the law on….he raped his daughter…she didn’t consent to it, she pressed charges, if this was an issue of incest, then there would be a history up to this point, no, dad got drunk, and for whatever reason, he decided to do his daughter, in America, incest and rape are against the law! If your trying to justify some action of your own or justify some reason you feel that incest and rape are okay, then get some help! Then you throw in Mexican culture, good grief, AGAIN, THIS IS AMERICA, FIRST OFF…YOU DON’T HAVE SEX WITH A PERSON WHO IS PASSED OUT, NO MATTER WHAT “SIGNALS” THEY MAY HAVE THROWN AT YOU ALL NIGHT LONG….IT’S CALLED RAPE!! SECOND, YOU DON’T RAPE YOUR DAUGHTER, NO MATTER HOW DRUNK SHE IS OR WHATEVER “MIXED” SIGNALS YOU FEEL SHE’S SENDING YOUR WAY!
You stated “This is the case, at least, among the Huicholes, a group of some 8,000-9,000 people living in West-Central Mexico. According to Palafox Vargas (1985), various forms of incest are practiced and accepted in the community.” Again, come up with some statistics and facts for this country, if this family is Mexican and want to believe in incest, they can go back to Mexico! When people come to America, they know our laws, they know want is tolerated and what isn’t, and I’m sorry, if a person wants to live in this country, then they need to follow our laws, otherwise…DON’T COME OR LEAVE!! Plan or simple, I’m so tired of America being twisted around all the time to keep from stepping on everyone’s toes to make everyone happy who flees to this country because they have issues with their own country for whatever reasons..if you can come here and fight so damn hard for your “rights” to practice your beliefs, etc, and can gather thousands of people of help support your rallies, etc, THEN TAKE ALL OF THAT BACK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY AND FIGHT THERE!!! Native Americans are the least represented minority in this country, AND THEY DON’T BELIEVE IN INCEST AND RAPE, even when most of their tribes were being erased by the white man, they didn’t have sex with their daughters, mothers and sisters to keep the “last of the mohicans” from dying off. Most of the cultures that “started” America I don’t recall them having incest and rape as part of their cultural beliefs, and so considering this country is based on some ethnics and laws concerning incest and rape, if a person feels they really really have to follow in incest and rape for their culture to continue, then like I said before, they can leave this country and go where it is a freely practice way of life! I hope most of this made sense, I’m at work at the moment and have been interupted several times and have had to try to pick up my train of thought again, so sorry if there’s some repeating.
August 31st, 2007 at 5:12 am
rddavis0313 – LOL! Are you kidding me? I wasn’t there, but obviously it was enough of a violation for her to bring charges against her father. HELLOOOO??? It seems to me that you are saying “Wait a minute, we can’t judge him unless we know whether or not she was ASKING FOR IT?” Is this your argument? Is this what you say about all rape victims? Is rape not a REAL crime to you?
also, what part of
“Cabrera’s daughter, having had too much to drink, went to the bathroom where she passed out.
She awoke in her half-sister’s bedroom, with her father on top of her.”
Do you not understand? She was passed out. Unconscious. Can’t give consent. Period.
And as far as your statement about incest in the Mexican culture, that makes me want to VOMIT. I am a Mexican American (like these people probably are) and there is NOTHING in my culture that says this is okay. I didn’t read this in some article online. I live it. These people are not part of that tribe. So there goes that argument.
Remember, we are not talking about two consenting adults here. We are talking about a rape victim who happened to be raped by her father. Incest is illegal in the US. For good reason.
I am not going to judge these people by standards of other cultures. If I did that, in some cultures, we’d be stoning all rape victims, including children, for being “whores” and “adulterers.”
Face it. All your research and justifications will not change the fact that this crime was committed here in the United States in the year 2007. The customs of other cultures and past centuries don’t apply here.
August 30th, 2007 at 8:43 pm
And just to add a little more perspective … here is some research ive done on incest in the mexican culture (which I assume applies to this family because of their last name):
Among some low-level socioeconomic-class communities, it is evident only when the daughter delivers a child fathered by her own father, and this is acknowledged by the neighborhood as one more of the facts of life.
Among some isolated ethnic groups that have conserved their purity of race by not mixing with outsiders, incest may be an acceptable way of organizing and perpetuating society. This is the case, at least, among the Huicholes, a group of some 8,000-9,000 people living in West-Central Mexico. According to Palafox Vargas (1985), various forms of incest are practiced and accepted in the community.
If you want to keep arguing thats fine but please back it up with some substance. Everything you said was absolutely void of any content or fact. So before spouting off your emotional opinions as truth, find something to support what you’re saying so we can at least make the argument worth while.
August 30th, 2007 at 8:33 pm
And furthermore, KATHY … where you there? DO you KNOW she was passed out? DO you KNOW she didn’t actually come on to him in her state of apparent wastedness? Do you know any sexual contact between them happened previously? If her actions of being unable to control herself when drinking are excusable because she was drinking … why cant he be excused as well under the same pretense??? I think i’ve made my point … there is NOTHING wrong with questioning the situation and wanting more information to have a better interpretation of reality which was all I was attempting to do.
August 30th, 2007 at 8:24 pm
I think that if you want to challenge my comment it would be more effective to do so intelligently instead of saying it is just “ridiculous.” It is obvious you are all very narrow minded and only willing view culture through ethnocentrism, but unfortunately the world cannot be explained in terms of American culture. I was in no way justifying or agreeing with what happened, I was merely offering a different perspective because NO one knows what really happened. First of all, incest had been around since ancient history. In fact, it is relatively accepted that incestuous marriages were widespread and accepted at LEAST during the Graeco-Roman period of Egyptian history. Furthermore, incest is actually defined differently in many different cultures. Some forms of incest we view as immoral are accepted while some forms are not. No matter how disgusting the thought .. who is ANYONE to say that a sexual relationship between two consenting adults is wrong? To judge other people’s behavior and customs based only on your own is to assume your view of morality is superior and that is obviously not only ignorant but dangerous. If you think I am so outrageous to pose such questions .. consider this. A recent study done found that the childhood in much of India begins with the young child being regularly masturbated by the mother, “high caste or low caste, the girl ‘to make her sleep well,’ the boy ‘to make him manly…”‘ This practice has been said to be widespread by many reliable observers. As is the case with virtually all non-Western cultures, the child sleeps in the family bed for several years and regularly observes sexual intercourse between the parents. Also, it has been shown that in contemporary Indian sexual practices “there is a lot of incest…It is hidden along with other secrets of families and rarely gets a chance to come out, like seduction at the hands of trusted friends of the family… To arrive at even a passable estimate of incest cases would be to touch the hornet’s nest.. no one will ever confess to such a deed, therefore, any attempt to collect statistics may prove to be futile at present.”(95) If there was no intrinsic desire to perform incestuous acts there would be no need for an incest taboo. Haven’t any of you ever studied Freud and the Oedipus complex? Within that, it is so outrageous so assume that this girl got stuck in the phallic stage of development and therefore is acting out her psychosis through incest? It is such a shame that people on this website are unable to respect the opinions of others without being immature and insulting. Grow up …
August 30th, 2007 at 5:51 pm
Sorry about that I kinda got my emotions in the way. “God works in mysterious ways…” Hope for a better tommorrow…
August 30th, 2007 at 5:34 pm
“For goodness sake can I shoot him…”
August 30th, 2007 at 4:49 pm
“Not that it really matters, but if she was of age and intoxicated, there is really no way to determine how she was behaving towards her father. Not to say this justifies the fact that he raped her while she was drunk, how do we know she didn’t initiate it or behave in a way that would make her father think she wanted that type of attention.”
That is the most ridiculous comment I have ever
read.
August 29th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
This actually struck a powerful chord in me….I’ve had this happen to me and I think this sick fuck should be punished to the fullest extent. How people get this sick is beyond me. And that stupid action is going to be the thing that fucks that poor girl up her entire life. It doesn’t go away and it will haunt her until she dies. I want him to hurt so much.
August 27th, 2007 at 9:08 am
*Shudders*
Oh Lord, I wonder how many of his patients have given him “signals”. Where does he come up with raping his unconcious daughter being a way to further father-daughter bonding? This guy is a creepy sick-o. I hope he loses his license forever.
August 27th, 2007 at 8:49 am
Kudos to u Kathy! I couldn’t have said it better myself!
August 27th, 2007 at 5:49 am
rddavis0313-What culture is incest NOT taboo?? Especially between a father and daughter? Even tribes that remain untouched by the civilized world don’t do that.
and anyway, it doesn’t matter if the girl was of legal age and was giving her father “signals” *BARF* He was in control, she was passed out and being an educated person in AMERICAN society KNEW taht what he was doing was wrong. Even if she wasn’t his blood relative, he would still be guilty of rape. An unconscious person can’t give consent.
August 27th, 2007 at 5:40 am
OK I am going to need him to have his head checked because it is clear that he KNEW what he was doing! He is disgusting! How could he possibly think that his daughter *passed out and all* was sending him signals as if she wanted him sexually? He is demented and needs to serve a hefty sentence. He has a wife to have sex with! Was she underage to be drinking alcohol?
August 25th, 2007 at 4:33 pm
I am interested to know how old this girl is. Not that it really matters, but if she was of age and intoxicated, there is really no way to determine how she was behaving towards her father. Not to say this justifies the fact that he raped her while she was drunk, how do we know she didn’t initiate it or behave in a way that would make her father think she wanted that type of attention. Just because incest is taboo in American Culture does not mean it is that way everywhere else. Furthermore, there is no background on the type of relationship they had before this incident. Who is to say this was the first sexual encounter between them? Not that it makes it any less sick, but there seems to be more to this situation than this specific incident.
August 24th, 2007 at 9:03 pm
I just had a very disturbing thought.
The article said that he is a dentist and has had his license pulled while the investigation is going on.
What if he has raped patients before while they were sedated during oral surgery or something like that? (((shudder))), seriously, though, that isn’t so farfetched. Anyone sick enough to rape his own daughter while she is drunk probably wouldn’t be above something like that.
I would be totally creeped out if I were a former patient of his and I read this in the local paper, especially if I had had dental work done under anesthesia!
August 24th, 2007 at 10:43 am
OMG, I LOVE this blog sites name….
“People You’ll See In Hell » Blog Archive”
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL I LOVE IT!! How appropriate of a title for a site discussing horrible things people do!! LOLOLOL
August 24th, 2007 at 10:40 am
Here’s all I could find so far on this case….
In an article, it states her age is not being disclosed, then it states “Jane Doe stated she was intoxicated and had not been a willing participant in the sex act,” a court document states.”
“This information was never challenged or contradicted by Albert Cabrera.” The defendant instead alleged she had been sending him signals and “perhaps wanted to have sex with him as a way of father-daughter bonding,” the document states.
Cabrera’s license to practice dentistry has been challenged by the California Attorney General’s office and may be revoked, according to court records.”
So, he’s some high priced dentist in California! What a sick pervert!
August 24th, 2007 at 10:36 am
She is his adult daughter, over 21. But EWW! WTF was he thinking? Poor girl, probably thought he was an ok Dad all her life and then THIS?!?!? This is not something you can recover from. One she was RAPED, two it was her FATHER!! Bonding?!?!? This man should never be allowed to forget what he’s done.
August 24th, 2007 at 10:34 am
Oh shel, this is UM???? lol sorry if I confused you on who this was!
August 24th, 2007 at 10:34 am
Hi shel, haven’t seen you around in awhile!
August 24th, 2007 at 10:25 am
How sick! I guess this is another case of genetic sexual attraction? This poor girl is going to be scarred for life!
August 24th, 2007 at 9:06 am
How old was the daughter that she was out drinking with him? If she’s underage, I hope someone is holding that against BOTH parents! Where was mom when all of this was going on, was she passed out too? What a sick idiot! He was sober enough to realize he was screwing his daughter, but was too drunk to stop himself? People seem to just get dumber and dumber in this world anymore!
August 24th, 2007 at 8:55 am
OMG, this is really sick. What planet is the father from? he thought having sex with his daughter would be “bonding”. Well i hope now he gets “bonded” with the inmates he will be serving time with.