Robert Siefert and Shannon Kammer Arrested After Toddler ODs on OxyContin
In Michigan, Robert Siefert, 26, and Shannon Kammer, 25, were arrested for drug possession and growing marijuana after Kammer called 911 to report that her 18-month-old son was not breathing.
Seems that when police arrived, they found that she had taken the boy from the home. The police found her on the road and took the toddler to a local hospital. The boy was transported by helicopter to Children’s Hospital in Detroit after he tested positive for opiates.
After learning this, police obtained a search warrant to check out her residence. Police found more than 20 marijuana plants, and a supply of OxyContin and Vicodin – and Kammer’s three-year-old daughter who was home alone. Uh oh.
Kammer and Siefert were both arraigned and placed on $250,000 bonds for felony charges for growing more than 20 marijuana plants. Both also face charges with possession and intent to deliver Vicodin, as well as charges for possession of less than 25 grams of OxyContin and maintaining a drug house. They may also be facing manslaughter charges.
The 18-month-old is on life support at Children’s Hospital is not expected to survive after having consumed large dosages of OxyContin.
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October 7th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
Why do they even have children??
October 7th, 2007 at 8:34 pm
If that baby dies, I hope and pray to God that those two imbeciles get as much time in jail as the judge can give them. Maybe there they will get some jailhouse justice when the inmates learn how these two treated their precious baby. Many of the inmates have children they would do anything to see and can’t.
October 8th, 2007 at 4:30 am
You know why they have kids? Because they are a side effect. People like this are lazy and irresponsible. They only think of themselves and their pleasure. Drugs = “physical pleasure.”
Sex = physical pleasure. Sex = children.
Working for a living or using birth control requires too much discipline and interferes with their pursuit of physical PLEASURE.
Its disgusting and I think if you find yourself to be one of these people, you should go and get permanently sterilized. Quit bringing innocent babies into this world that did not ask to have selfish f*cktards as parents!
Then they left the 3 year old ALONE?!?!?! Give those babies to someone who will take care of them. I’d love more children. And there are THOUSANDS more people out there just like me!
I’m sur this skank is having a helluva time in jail right now. She doesn’t look like she would last longin any prison I know of.
October 8th, 2007 at 5:25 am
To me she looks like she’s trying to play the “I’m the poor victim, I didn’t know what I was doing” defense. She’s got that “girlish” look to her, so I’m sure she’s going to do the whole crying, hysterics, etc, drama scene to make people feel sorry for her, that she was innocent in all of this, and was stupid and nieve and didn’t know any better, after all, you can see all of that just in this pic alone of her in this story! She looks like your typical volunteering, goes to church, innocent girl next door type, so it wouldn’t surpirse me she play’s “dumb” to all of this! And we’ve all asked before, so we might as well ask again, WHERE THE HELL WAS THE REST OF THE FAMILY, THE GRANDPARENTS, ETC, THAT NO ONE DIDN’T NOTICE THE POT PLANTS GROWING, ETC, IN THEIR HOME? WAKE UP PEOPLE! I bet mom probably helped her get the meds and dad probably smoked some of the pot with the guy! Geesh!
October 8th, 2007 at 7:18 am
Why the heck would they give the kid OxyContin? Oh, silly me. I guess to get them to go to sleep so the horrible “parents” don’t have to be bothered.
October 8th, 2007 at 8:06 am
I don’t mean to make light of this in any way – but Kathy, “f*cktards” is a great term for these people. It fits PERFECTLY!!! I might have to use that word daily. We have to see if Webster will add this to the Dictionary and put a pic of these two assholes so you get the whole truth behind the term. It really is that perfect!!! ☺
Love ya girl! You make me smile! ♥
October 8th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
These 2 f*cktards (thanks Kathy) are due back in court tomorrow (per the following article). I was looking to see if they had updated the status of the poor child. They are waiting to see what the outcome of the treatment for the baby will be.
http://www.sourcenewspapers.com/stories/100707/loc_story5001.shtml
October 10th, 2007 at 11:23 am
You’ve got to be kidding me? Leaving your 3 year old at home alone in a house full of drugs. Nice plan! Arrgghh!
October 18th, 2007 at 6:38 am
Okay listen up people….How can you say all these mean things about her when you dont even know her? I know want she did is TOTALLY WRONG and it was preventable but to call her names is bull***t. Kathy, what the hell is f***tards? thats not even a word. Take it from someone who knows them, they are good parents who made a mistake. Its not like they meant to hurt their kids, and for the 3 year old- HE IS A BOY not a girl like everyone keeps saying.
October 18th, 2007 at 6:55 am
Ok, Clk, which part of it was the “mistake?” The marijuana plants, the huge supply of narcotics without a prescription? The fact that they called the ambulance to one location, and then took the baby to another, the fact that they left a 3 year old home alone OR the fact that the 3 year old was left alone in the house with the same illegal substances that the first baby overdosed on to begin with? Good parents? BULLSHIT. IF he survives, that baby will NEVER be the same because of their negligence.
What’s a f*cktard you ask? Well, that’s simple. Your friends, the two who could MAKE babies but could not live up to the responsibility of actually caring for them are f*cktards. I don’t have to know her. It’s all there in black and white. She chose a lifestyle that put her children at risk. Her kids suffered. She’s an idiot. the only person my heart goes out to is that baby whose life was ruined before he even got a chance to live and his sibling who will never get to know what he might have been like.
October 18th, 2007 at 7:57 am
Clk -Are you actually defending this piece of shit??? Good mother you say?? This f*cktard does not deserve to have children. I hope that she NEVER sees her children, or any children for that matter, EVER AGAIN!! She is lucky that the child didn’t die. What the hell is wrong with you??? Good mother?!?!?! Do you need your head checked??? First of all – Good mothers do not keep a stockpile of (illegal) drugs, let alone in the house with their children. UGH!!!!
October 21st, 2007 at 10:40 am
To CLK, okay where do I start? These are not good parents. I am a good parent. I love my children, spend time with them, do EVERYTHING in my power to ensure that they are safe, loved, taken care of, taught good morals, etc. My life revolves around them, not the other way around. I would NEVER grow pot(illegal) in my home nor would I have legal or illegal drugs laying around where my little ones could get it. My kids know drugs are bad and wrong and I have never been careless to let my kids come even close to hurting themselves like this. These are NOT good parents!!!! If they truly love the kids they would make money the RIGHT WAY. The wouldn’t harm their kids. Your comment about THEM being good was an insult to every decent, law abiding awesome parent out there.
October 21st, 2007 at 11:36 am
Amen to that!!
October 22nd, 2007 at 11:20 pm
To play devil’s advocate for a moment:
“I would NEVER grow pot(illegal) in my home nor would I have legal or illegal drugs laying around where my little ones could get it.”
I realize that the couple in question didn’t have a medical exemption, but there are places that it is legal to grow marijuana if you have a medical exemption. Just because a parent is growing, it doesn’t necessarily make it illegal or neglectful.
“My kids know drugs are bad and wrong and I have never been careless to let my kids come even close to hurting themselves like this.”
Leaving oxycontin around for my child to grab isn’t something I’d do either (I’ve never had oxys legal or otherwise, anyway), but I don’t personally believe that drugs are bad (they can be abused, yes, certainly. But that’s not the drug, it’s the person taking the drug) and I don’t think telling kids “drugs are bad” is the right way to go… Just makes ‘em want to do it more. Nothing was ever forbidden in my house growing up — there were rules and consequences, but nothing was forbidden — and unlike most of my peers, I never drank, smoked, did drugs, have sex etc. as a teenager, because that thrill of doing something forbidden wasn’t there for me.
C.
October 24th, 2007 at 5:56 am
Okay, WOW everyone has something to say…but I don’t give a s**t! Yeah I know that just because they were growing pot and had drugs in their house dosent mean they are “bad parents”. I bet there are people down the street from you who have pot in their house or even have drugs(pills) with kids in their homes. Plus you guys keep saying it is all her but ya know how do YOU know that it wasn’t ALL just her it was her BF too. You cant just put the blame on her when there are 2 parents.People make mistakes and they are BOTH learning the consequences now, but they truely are good people and parents. They love them kids with everything they have.
October 24th, 2007 at 5:58 am
Your mental. She left DRUGS
October 24th, 2007 at 6:04 am
s=Sorry – Quick fingers.
She left drugs where her child could get them. ANd she kept a shitty boyfriend that did this shit with her children in the house. I’m still not buying “the good mother” bit. She is an asshole that should never see her children again. If she is really soory, she sould wrap her elbows around her knees and kiss her own ass and THANK GOD that her child isn’t dead!!!
As for people down the street from me with drugs in their home – I certainly don’t hang out with any of them and my son isn’t hang out with them so who gives a shit??? They would be just as ad as your friend. I keep no illegal drugs in my home and all of the perscriptions (legal drugs) are in a locked cabinet. Not just to save my son but to keep them away from asshole like these two.
October 24th, 2007 at 9:45 am
carysehlwinn – Canada has a much more relaxed view on MJ than America does. I tend to agree with you on the basis of your comment that growing MJ or possessing doesn’t make you a bad parent in most cases. But the problem with the theory is that you are neglecting to address the lifestyle that most of the people live. If you grow it for person, maybe I agree it’s not so bad. If you are selling/distributing then you have some pretty shady characters coming around, you have lots of cash and probably guns.
However, on your second opinion about drugs not being bad, it’s the users that are bad. That’s not true. Drugs are recalled every day for being dangerous to people after they are placed into the market. Oxy is one of those drugs that they are carefully watching. It is up to America’s FDA to make sure that drugs that are highly addictive are not available to every Tom, Dick & Harry (that’s an American term for “everyone”). So, even though a user certainly has to have some merit of responsibility in maintaining control of their prescriptions, once a person becomes addicted to a substance, they really aren’t themselves anymore, they are the drug they are taking, which would make the drug a bad thing now wouldn’t it?
CLK – You sound like you really care for this young lady and her children. I wish you could have been there to support her in leaving the BF if he was the real problem for her and her children. But, maybe she didn’t want to leave the BF. If that is the case, then it becomes her responsibility as much as it is his to allow her children to be living in a drug house. I agree with the other posters that she shouldn’t be allowed to have these two children back and I hope she serves a long enough prison sentence that she sobers up and grows up before she is released to society to have more children.
October 24th, 2007 at 11:36 pm
“However, on your second opinion about drugs not being bad, it’s the users that are bad. That’s not true. Drugs are recalled every day for being dangerous to people after they are placed into the market.”
This is true. Though I generally class pharmaceuticals differently than recreational drugs. Pharms (in general) are much worse, IMO, than all the recreationals combined.
“Oxy is one of those drugs that they are carefully watching. It is up to America’s FDA to make sure that drugs that are highly addictive are not available to every Tom, Dick & Harry (that’s an American term for “everyone”).”
Heh, I am familiar with the term. The problem with the oxys is that they are time release, so users are crushing them to get the effects all at once. The new design, from what I understand, is going to stop the pill from working if it’s crushed so that only regular oral use for pain management will be happening (and I know that people have addiction problems with just using oxys the regular way, but it’s the crushing that’s the major problem).
“So, even though a user certainly has to have some merit of responsibility in maintaining control of their prescriptions, once a person becomes addicted to a substance, they really aren’t themselves anymore, they are the drug they are taking, which would make the drug a bad thing now wouldn’t it?”
With a pharmaceutical? Perhaps. I have no love of pharmaceuticals, obviously. Most people don’t intentionally set out to abuse them. But with a street drug like heroin, you have to consciously choose to abuse them in the first place, so I don’t hold that against the drug.
C.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:02 pm
She is a horrible parent who has been enjoying her life out on a tether for the past 6 months. Her poor little boy is now dead and buried, but she continues to pop pills and smoke weed all the time. Get this……she’s not even being drug tested!!!!!!!! Great system!
June 3rd, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Clk2006, you are absolutey stupid because, well, you seem to be defending those so-called parents! THEY ARE NOT GOOD PARENTS, YOU DUMBASS!!!! THEY ARE THE WORST PARENTS IN THE WORLD AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE JSUT AS GUILTY AS THEY ARE!!!!!!!!!! If you still insist on defending those dumbass losers, I swear to God, I’d rather defend the kids!
June 3rd, 2008 at 5:22 pm
BTW, Clk2006, Parents Behaving Badly is a web page designed ONLY for people who care deeply about kids and not for people who defend any idiots like those drug-loving losers, so if you don’t care about the kids, then LEAVE!!!! AND DON’T COME BACK!!!!! End of story.
August 15th, 2009 at 8:03 am
obviously this is america the land of “id rather get my intertainment from putting my 10 cents in some other peoples buisiness,…” you guys are so stupid if your so worried about kids then why arent you playing catch or cards or reading a book with your kids or grandkids instead of wasting your time with your uneeded opinion. yeah she fukked up,… u dont know her personally im her cousin and i will say thats not the only family i lost i lost my nephew and mom so look it up daniel turner anyways if u guys had half a brain and seen something like this id rather spend time with my kids than talk shit online. USA united we stand bullsht were all a bunch of bullies quit wasting ur time spend time with ur kids. duh
October 3rd, 2009 at 9:54 am
I know this wacko too and she’s not sad. She doesn’t even pay attention to her remaining son. She’s a total piece of cr*p. Her life is going on as usual and she shows no remorse. She’s letting her lowlife in-laws help care for her son when they aren’t any better. The only positive outcome is to put him up for adoption and let a real family who CARES and WANTS to, raise him…