Woman puts feces in special needs child’s feeding tube

Mom Taints Child’s Feeding Tube with Feces: Police:

Austin police: Woman put feces in child’s IV feeding tube:

Mother charged with feeding 3-year-old feces:

Say hello to the new face of Münchhausen by Proxy Syndrome. I mean that’s the only way i can explain why this happened.

Anyway that’s 23-year-old Emily McDonald of Austin, Texas. She was arrested for placing feces in the IV feeding tube of her 3-year-old daughter was in the hospital being treated for infections. Oddly enough doctors determined that those infections had been caused by the child being fed fecal matter.

When doctors figured out what was causing the infections they had a camera placed in the girl’s room. That’s when they allegedly caught McDonald putting fecal matter from the girl’s diaper into the IV tube. When arrested McDonald said she knew that the fecal matter would make the girl sick and knew that it could potentially kill her.

So what leads me to my totally unqualified diagnosis of MBP. Well it seems she constantly blogged about her kids medical conditions and frequented various parenting forums. While that’s not entirely indicative of MBP when you put the two together it kind of does. I’m not going to post links to the blog or the forums to protect the girl’s identity.

Also in my 9 years of blogging I’ve done some other posts about women who poisoned their kids who were believed to have had MBP that all used the same thing to poison their kids, human feces.

So Breeder Readers, I pose yet another question to you. Is Münchhausen by Proxy Syndrome a legitimate psychological disorder or are these birth organisms just being attention whores?

Thanks to Michelle, Melissa and Kathryn for the tips.

  • Munchymoo

    http://weareaustin.com/search-fulltext?nxd_id=134656

    She’s going to the big house for 20 years. Good riddance, loser. Thank goodness your daughter survived and won’t have to deal with you.

  • Anna

    I went to school with this girl. I feel terrible for thinking that I knew she was screwed up, and that it would end badly for her kids. I had no idea it was going to be something like this, but I also wasn’t surprised. Deeply saddened, but not surprised. Munchausen’s by Proxy may be a legitimate condition, but ultimately, it’s a factitious disorder most common in people with Borderline Personality Disorder, which really isn’t very treatable. It’s a name given to a list of symptoms. Someone with Munchausen’s by Proxy is exactly a crazy, self-obsessed, attention-seeking nutcase with a better term attached to it. I can sympathize with someone who makes him or herself sick for attention. But someone who puts their child through that much anguish intentionally and repeatedly just to get attention for herself? That’s horrible, and inexcusable. Her concern for her daughter’s suffering was vastly outweighed by her desire for attention.

    • http://badbreeders.net/ April

      Thanks for posting!

  • http://[email protected] Vicki

    well first of all is the baby okay and second of all i can not belive that a mother would do something like that to her own child i hope she that she gets the punishment that she deserves just because sometimes our children have struggles through out life does not mean that we need to give up on them!!! Please let me know more information

  • Vicki

    well first of all is the baby okay and second of all i can not belive that a mother would do something like that to her own child i hope she that she gets the punishment that she deserves just because sometimes our children have struggles through out life does not mean that we need to give up on them!!! Please let me know more information

  • http://[email protected] Vicki

    well first of all is the baby okay and second of all i can not belive that a mother would do something like that to her own child i hope she that she gets the punishment that she deserves just because sometimes our children have struggles through out life does not mean that we need to give up on them!!! Please lt me know more information

  • Vicki

    well first of all is the baby okay and second of all i can not belive that a mother would do something like that to her own child i hope she that she gets the punishment that she deserves just because sometimes our children have struggles through out life does not mean that we need to give up on them!!! Please lt me know more information

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  • Anon

    I’m not trying to excuse the use of the logic. I’m merely claiming that people experience depression differently. I realize the reasoning is flawed, but I also realize that people in the throes of an all-consuming despair aren’t necessarily the most rational, clear-headed ones around.

    The nature of suicide is that it goes against every instinct, every fiber of what nature has programmed into us. Arguments in its favor are necessarily either borne of a fervor that conquers all reason or, alternatively, on some level rise above our instincts rather than oppose them, and use abstractions that are thoroughly separate from our baser emotions. Either way, this removal from or direct opposition to our natures assumes some level of irrationality, sometimes of a sort that defies all comprehension, even to those who go through similar ordeals.

    It may be worth noting that postpartum depression has a documented history of leading mothers to end their children’s lives, or perhaps, in the womens’ minds, protect their children from the unspeakable cruelty of the world.

  • Anon

    I’m not trying to excuse the use of the logic. I’m merely claiming that people experience depression differently. I realize the reasoning is flawed, but I also realize that people in the throes of an all-consuming despair aren’t necessarily the most rational, clear-headed ones around.

    The nature of suicide is that it goes against every instinct, every fiber of what nature has programmed into us. Arguments in its favor are necessarily either borne of a fervor that conquers all reason or, alternatively, on some level rise above our instincts rather than oppose them, and use abstractions that are thoroughly separate from our baser emotions. Either way, this removal from or direct opposition to our natures assumes some level of irrationality, sometimes of a sort that defies all comprehension, even to those who go through similar ordeals.

    It may be worth noting that postpartum depression has a documented history of leading mothers to end their children’s lives, or perhaps, in the womens’ minds, protect their children from the unspeakable cruelty of the world.

  • Angel

    Anon:
    Logic of that nature is mostly reserved for psychopaths and sociopaths who are so egotistic that they believe the lives of others and the resultant happiness of those lives, depends entirely on the happiness or relative lack thereof in their own life. It’s like saying, “If I’m not happy, then nobody else possibly can be.” That is a bullshit line of reasoning – just another one of the ways our society has devised to excuse the evil behavior and poor life choices of those who think that the law doesn’t apply to them.

    I suffer from depression; and, yes, I have had times in my life when I thought that the world might be better off without me. But never once, even for an instant, did I think that taking my kids with me into death might be a good idea – or even an option. On the contrary, I knew that taking my own life, although it might seem to be an answer to my problems at the time, would be the most hateful thing I could do to my children. They would have to grow up wondering why mommy didn’t love them enough to stick around – why they weren’t good enough to deserve mommy’s love. In that way, you might say my children have saved my life repeatedly over the years. I would never commit such a selfish act against my children, nor am I proud or vain enough to believe that my unhappiness would necessarily extend to my children and cause me to try and kill them. Your reasoning ability in the above comment is simply another way to excuse the deviant behaviors of sociopaths – and a very poor attempt at that….

  • Angel

    Anon:
    Logic of that nature is mostly reserved for psychopaths and sociopaths who are so egotistic that they believe the lives of others and the resultant happiness of those lives, depends entirely on the happiness or relative lack thereof in their own life. It’s like saying, “If I’m not happy, then nobody else possibly can be.” That is a bullshit line of reasoning – just another one of the ways our society has devised to excuse the evil behavior and poor life choices of those who think that the law doesn’t apply to them.

    I suffer from depression; and, yes, I have had times in my life when I thought that the world might be better off without me. But never once, even for an instant, did I think that taking my kids with me into death might be a good idea – or even an option. On the contrary, I knew that taking my own life, although it might seem to be an answer to my problems at the time, would be the most hateful thing I could do to my children. They would have to grow up wondering why mommy didn’t love them enough to stick around – why they weren’t good enough to deserve mommy’s love. In that way, you might say my children have saved my life repeatedly over the years. I would never commit such a selfish act against my children, nor am I proud or vain enough to believe that my unhappiness would necessarily extend to my children and cause me to try and kill them. Your reasoning ability in the above comment is simply another way to excuse the deviant behaviors of sociopaths – and a very poor attempt at that….

  • Anon

    Mare, you say that depression only involves the self, but that is quite incorrect. Not only do males often express depression as anger at others, but think about the following chain of logic that might come from someone with severe depression: “I am miserable” becomes “My life is miserable” becomes “My life is not worth living because it is miserable” becomes “Nobody should have to suffer through the misery of life” becomes “I should end my loved ones’ lives so that they don’t have to suffer” becomes familicide and suicide. And, as seen through the mind-crushing haze of suicidal depression, that line of logic may be intensely appealing. I’m not advocating the use of it, mind you, but it is most certainly there.

  • Anon

    Mare, you say that depression only involves the self, but that is quite incorrect. Not only do males often express depression as anger at others, but think about the following chain of logic that might come from someone with severe depression: “I am miserable” becomes “My life is miserable” becomes “My life is not worth living because it is miserable” becomes “Nobody should have to suffer through the misery of life” becomes “I should end my loved ones’ lives so that they don’t have to suffer” becomes familicide and suicide. And, as seen through the mind-crushing haze of suicidal depression, that line of logic may be intensely appealing. I’m not advocating the use of it, mind you, but it is most certainly there.

  • http://PBB Kathy Thomas

    Munchausen by Proxy, absolutely.

  • Kathy Thomas

    Munchausen by Proxy, absolutely.

  • http://PBB Kathy Thomas

    Yep, once again proving there is NO accountability in the majority of city, county, State, and particularly Federal employeeship.
    Overburdend Social Worker’s = children in need of help get more abuse heaped upon them, thereby causing more troubled future citizens who could turn around and do the same to their children. WHEN WILL WE GET IT AS A SOCIETY? WHAT’S IT GOING TO TAKE? it is blogs like this that should prompt us to take notice, act on suspicions, and try to end this atrocious cycle.

  • Kathy Thomas

    Yep, once again proving there is NO accountability in the majority of city, county, State, and particularly Federal employeeship.
    Overburdend Social Worker’s = children in need of help get more abuse heaped upon them, thereby causing more troubled future citizens who could turn around and do the same to their children. WHEN WILL WE GET IT AS A SOCIETY? WHAT’S IT GOING TO TAKE? it is blogs like this that should prompt us to take notice, act on suspicions, and try to end this atrocious cycle.

  • http://PBB Kathy Thomas

    Yep, once again proving there is NO accountability in the majority of city, county, State, and particularly Federal employeeship.
    Overburdend Social Worker’s = children in need of help get more abuse heaped upon them, thereby causing more troubled future citizens who could turn around and do the same to their children. WHEN WILL WE GET IT AS A SOCIETY? WHAT’S IT GOING TO TAKE? it is blogs like this that should prompt us to take notice, act one suspicions, and try to end this atrocious cycle.

  • Kathy Thomas

    Yep, once again proving there is NO accountability in the majority of city, county, State, and particularly Federal employeeship.
    Overburdend Social Worker’s = children in need of help get more abuse heaped upon them, thereby causing more troubled future citizens who could turn around and do the same to their children. WHEN WILL WE GET IT AS A SOCIETY? WHAT’S IT GOING TO TAKE? it is blogs like this that should prompt us to take notice, act one suspicions, and try to end this atrocious cycle.

  • pak31

    She did what she did, illness or not. She knew it was wrong. End of story. The Myspace entries are pathetic. Boo Hoo is my response to her. It’s called Being a mother and a wife, what was she expecting her life to be like? A vacation? No one noticed that this woman was a little off? Maybe instead of spending time on MySpace she could have found a hobby.

  • pak31

    She did what she did, illness or not. She knew it was wrong. End of story. The Myspace entries are pathetic. Boo Hoo is my response to her. It’s called Being a mother and a wife, what was she expecting her life to be like? A vacation? No one noticed that this woman was a little off? Maybe instead of spending time on MySpace she could have found a hobby.

  • http://www.jenn.nu Jenn

    I feel absolutely no sympathy, pity or confusion over what this woman did. Special needs children and children with physical disabilities and problems are a huge burden to shoulder, because so much time and energy is required in order to provide adequate care for them.

    However, to DELIBERATELY and REPEATEDLY do things to worsen conditions, cause new ones or perhaps even kill such a child, or ANY child for that matter, is not something I can condone, excuse or justify. I don’t care if she “cracked”. What she did was horrible, and the fact that she did it repeatedly and discreetly shows she damn well knew right from wrong.

    Personally, I’m all for trying her on attempted murder. Electrocute the bitch. Or at least put her in jail and let the general population take care of her.

  • http://www.jenn.nu kissmykitty

    I feel absolutely no sympathy, pity or confusion over what this woman did. Special needs children and children with physical disabilities and problems are a huge burden to shoulder, because so much time and energy is required in order to provide adequate care for them.

    However, to DELIBERATELY and REPEATEDLY do things to worsen conditions, cause new ones or perhaps even kill such a child, or ANY child for that matter, is not something I can condone, excuse or justify. I don’t care if she “cracked”. What she did was horrible, and the fact that she did it repeatedly and discreetly shows she damn well knew right from wrong.

    Personally, I’m all for trying her on attempted murder. Electrocute the bitch. Or at least put her in jail and let the general population take care of her.

  • sfdude_2008

    @Kathy:

    “sfdude… it was a joke. And, yes… I do believe that if I was featured on here for some horrendous offense instead of a frequent and sometimes annoying poster), that you and many others would have choice words for me. And, I would EXPECT you to be horrified if I did something as awful as choosing to drive while intoxicated causing the death of my own or anyone else’s children. :-)”

    I believe you.

  • sfdude_2008

    @Kathy:

    “sfdude… it was a joke. And, yes… I do believe that if I was featured on here for some horrendous offense instead of a frequent and sometimes annoying poster), that you and many others would have choice words for me. And, I would EXPECT you to be horrified if I did something as awful as choosing to drive while intoxicated causing the death of my own or anyone else’s children. :-)”

    I believe you.

  • barsyn2

    Kathy,

    You are right. I know… but I just FEEL conflicted.

    I’ve figured out what the root of my problem is. I have always thought of prison as a place for people who disregard the law as if it didn’t apply to them. In other words, it wasn’t a lapse of good judgment due to uncontrollable circumstances, but flagrant disregard. Under these circumstances, prison seems ideal.

    When it comes to people who brake a law due to a temporary lapse of sound mind due to excessive distress or depression (like post traumatic stress disorder, for example), I’m much more sympathetic. I’ve never thought of prison as the ideal place for them. I think of a mental facility and rehabilitation. I guess this isn’t possible for every law-breaker in society. If that’s the case, then I need to adjust my understanding of the purpose of prison.

    Depressed or not, what Emily did is criminal. Nobody would argue against that. Drunk driving is criminal – but you hear about it all the time. There’s less excuse for executing that poor judgment because the public is educated on the matter. Trying to kill your kid secretly to end the source of your stress is not something you hear about every day. That kind of lapse of good judgment makes more sense to me, even though it’s criminal. I don’t know if that was what she was doing. Hurting your kid for attention isn’t preached against by the Ad Counsel day in and day out either. (I’m not making excuses, let it be said. Nothing, NOTHING makes her behavior acceptable.) If that’s what she did, can she be rehabilitated? I bet you can only find a dozen people who are willing to risk it – and it would be a risk. Everybody else will want her locked up.

    I think it’s tricky business trying to figure out who should be rehabilitated and given a second chance, and who should be punished and locked up. I’d LIKE to think that her actions are punishment enough now that she’s been exposed… but our society doesn’t work like that. I just have to change my understanding of what and who prison is for.

  • barsyn2

    Kathy,

    You are right. I know… but I just FEEL conflicted.

    I’ve figured out what the root of my problem is. I have always thought of prison as a place for people who disregard the law as if it didn’t apply to them. In other words, it wasn’t a lapse of good judgment due to uncontrollable circumstances, but flagrant disregard. Under these circumstances, prison seems ideal.

    When it comes to people who brake a law due to a temporary lapse of sound mind due to excessive distress or depression (like post traumatic stress disorder, for example), I’m much more sympathetic. I’ve never thought of prison as the ideal place for them. I think of a mental facility and rehabilitation. I guess this isn’t possible for every law-breaker in society. If that’s the case, then I need to adjust my understanding of the purpose of prison.

    Depressed or not, what Emily did is criminal. Nobody would argue against that. Drunk driving is criminal – but you hear about it all the time. There’s less excuse for executing that poor judgment because the public is educated on the matter. Trying to kill your kid secretly to end the source of your stress is not something you hear about every day. That kind of lapse of good judgment makes more sense to me, even though it’s criminal. I don’t know if that was what she was doing. Hurting your kid for attention isn’t preached against by the Ad Counsel day in and day out either. (I’m not making excuses, let it be said. Nothing, NOTHING makes her behavior acceptable.) If that’s what she did, can she be rehabilitated? I bet you can only find a dozen people who are willing to risk it – and it would be a risk. Everybody else will want her locked up.

    I think it’s tricky business trying to figure out who should be rehabilitated and given a second chance, and who should be punished and locked up. I’d LIKE to think that her actions are punishment enough now that she’s been exposed… but our society doesn’t work like that. I just have to change my understanding of what and who prison is for.

  • Kathy

    sfdude… it was a joke. And, yes… I do believe that if I was featured on here for some horrendous offense instead of a frequent and sometimes annoying poster), that you and many others would have choice words for me. And, I would EXPECT you to be horrified if I did something as awful as choosing to drive while intoxicated causing the death of my own or anyone else’s children. :-)

    I would expect you, IHK2, LIsa, Samantha, Mare, and the many other regular posters to suggest that I be shot, or sliced with razor blades and dipped in alcohol, or whatever other scary and horrific punishment you can think of. But, I can say that because I don’t ever see myself being featured on this site for an offense against a child. Grown ups who cut me off in traffic… well, THAT’s another story. lol (just kidding!!! I don’t get road rage).

  • Kathy

    sfdude… it was a joke. And, yes… I do believe that if I was featured on here for some horrendous offense instead of a frequent and sometimes annoying poster), that you and many others would have choice words for me. And, I would EXPECT you to be horrified if I did something as awful as choosing to drive while intoxicated causing the death of my own or anyone else’s children. :-)

    I would expect you, IHK2, LIsa, Samantha, Mare, and the many other regular posters to suggest that I be shot, or sliced with razor blades and dipped in alcohol, or whatever other scary and horrific punishment you can think of. But, I can say that because I don’t ever see myself being featured on this site for an offense against a child. Grown ups who cut me off in traffic… well, THAT’s another story. lol (just kidding!!! I don’t get road rage).

  • sfdude_2008

    @Kathy:

    “If I was depressed and decided to go out and get drunk to try to relieve my depression and then killed a family while I was driving drunk, would there be any sympathy for my depressed state? Or, would sfdude call me a vile fat bloated whore and wish many unhappy and hurtful things upon me during my prison stay? ;-)”

    With all due respect, Kathy, I wouldn’t call you that. And I wouldn’t wish you anything horrible.

  • sfdude_2008

    @Kathy:

    “If I was depressed and decided to go out and get drunk to try to relieve my depression and then killed a family while I was driving drunk, would there be any sympathy for my depressed state? Or, would sfdude call me a vile fat bloated whore and wish many unhappy and hurtful things upon me during my prison stay? ;-)”

    With all due respect, Kathy, I wouldn’t call you that. And I wouldn’t wish you anything horrible.

  • Mare

    As a lifelong depressed and now medicated individual (Celexa, thanks for asking) myself, I also feel a certain amount of sympathy for depressed people. However, depression is a personal issue – it involves the self. Depression does not result in psychotic deranged murderous behaviour, Barsyn, it just doesn’t. Maybe it results in an unhealthy addiction to frequent chocolate cake ingestion, but I’ve never had the urge to inject my children with shit, nor has any of the countless depressed and/or medicated individuals I know, love, and work with.

    I think this woman should be stripped of all access to her children and others. FOREVER. WTF as to who thinks to do something so downright evil??? It’s not a complicated case! This was an intentional act of harm – she knew it could kill her child – and four little words apply: “Thou Shalt Not Kill”.

    I think this woman should be fully prosecuted as accountable and intending to commit murder – she knew right from wrong, but she put her sick needs and urges first.

    Don’t beat yourself up about your friendship – she obviously fooled a lot of people – I hear psychopaths are good at that.

  • Mare

    As a lifelong depressed and now medicated individual (Celexa, thanks for asking) myself, I also feel a certain amount of sympathy for depressed people. However, depression is a personal issue – it involves the self. Depression does not result in psychotic deranged murderous behaviour, Barsyn, it just doesn’t. Maybe it results in an unhealthy addiction to frequent chocolate cake ingestion, but I’ve never had the urge to inject my children with shit, nor has any of the countless depressed and/or medicated individuals I know, love, and work with.

    I think this woman should be stripped of all access to her children and others. FOREVER. WTF as to who thinks to do something so downright evil??? It’s not a complicated case! This was an intentional act of harm – she knew it could kill her child – and four little words apply: “Thou Shalt Not Kill”.

    I think this woman should be fully prosecuted as accountable and intending to commit murder – she knew right from wrong, but she put her sick needs and urges first.

    Don’t beat yourself up about your friendship – she obviously fooled a lot of people – I hear psychopaths are good at that.

  • Kathy

    @Barsyn2– I can understand your confliction. Your experience with her led you to think she was a wonderful mother. However, regardless of depression, poisoning your child with her own feces (or anything else) shows intent to do harm. MBP or not, she tried to harm her child. She intentionally put feces into an IV tube that could have caused a severe and fatal blood infection. She knew enough to try to hide what she was doing. She was caught ON CAMERA poisoning her child.

    If I was depressed and decided to go out and get drunk to try to relieve my depression and then killed a family while I was driving drunk, would there be any sympathy for my depressed state? Or, would sfdude call me a vile fat bloated whore and wish many unhappy and hurtful things upon me during my prison stay? ;-)

    I have been depressed. It was depressing to realize that I would never be able to give my husband a child of his own DNA. But, regardless of how sad, depressed, and heart wrenching that was, I knew not to 1. Cut a baby out of some pregnant woman, 2. Snatch a baby when no one was looking, 3. Drink myself into oblivion or use drugs and get in my car, 4. Harm people who could have children, 5. etc.

    Emily deliberately and calculatingly (is that a word? Tyrone?) poisoned her daughter. And, that’s why her story is on THIS blog.

    I undertand that caring for a severly handicapped child is HARD. Long hours, little or no time to yourself, constantly advocating for your childs rights to services and care… the list seems endless. But, YOU and many others do so without causing harm to your children. That’s the difference between you and Emily.

  • Kathy

    @Barsyn2– I can understand your confliction. Your experience with her led you to think she was a wonderful mother. However, regardless of depression, poisoning your child with her own feces (or anything else) shows intent to do harm. MBP or not, she tried to harm her child. She intentionally put feces into an IV tube that could have caused a severe and fatal blood infection. She knew enough to try to hide what she was doing. She was caught ON CAMERA poisoning her child.

    If I was depressed and decided to go out and get drunk to try to relieve my depression and then killed a family while I was driving drunk, would there be any sympathy for my depressed state? Or, would sfdude call me a vile fat bloated whore and wish many unhappy and hurtful things upon me during my prison stay? ;-)

    I have been depressed. It was depressing to realize that I would never be able to give my husband a child of his own DNA. But, regardless of how sad, depressed, and heart wrenching that was, I knew not to 1. Cut a baby out of some pregnant woman, 2. Snatch a baby when no one was looking, 3. Drink myself into oblivion or use drugs and get in my car, 4. Harm people who could have children, 5. etc.

    Emily deliberately and calculatingly (is that a word? Tyrone?) poisoned her daughter. And, that’s why her story is on THIS blog.

    I undertand that caring for a severly handicapped child is HARD. Long hours, little or no time to yourself, constantly advocating for your childs rights to services and care… the list seems endless. But, YOU and many others do so without causing harm to your children. That’s the difference between you and Emily.

  • Hevel

    Some people said that Emily has 4 kids. It is really 3. The eldest is a kindergartener.

    It seems Emily is on house arrest as she was online earlier as evidenced by a chat log posted on LJ by a mutual (former) friend.

  • Hevel

    Some people said that Emily has 4 kids. It is really 3. The eldest is a kindergartener.

    It seems Emily is on house arrest as she was online earlier as evidenced by a chat log posted on LJ by a mutual (former) friend.

  • Barsyn2

    I think “feeding poop” is more… what’s the right word?… revolting.. than “spreading germs”. Yes, it does seem more dangerous.

    I’m not making excuses or trying to say she is innocent. She needs help, and the child needs to be protected from her.

    I think, as someone who has experienced depression before, I don’t think that depression should be punished. I feel empathy for people who are depressed.

    I don’t feel pity for people who hurt themselves or others in order to get sympathy or attention.

    Since I sort of “knew” her and I genuinely liked her, and I cared for her daughter from a distance… I feel very conflicted about it.

    If Emily’s daughter wasn’t premature, with genetic and chromosomal problems, but was a normal kid who was made sick by her mother, I’d feel no confusion over the matter whatsoever. I just think this is a really complicated case.

  • Barsyn2

    I think “feeding poop” is more… what’s the right word?… revolting.. than “spreading germs”. Yes, it does seem more dangerous.

    I’m not making excuses or trying to say she is innocent. She needs help, and the child needs to be protected from her.

    I think, as someone who has experienced depression before, I don’t think that depression should be punished. I feel empathy for people who are depressed.

    I don’t feel pity for people who hurt themselves or others in order to get sympathy or attention.

    Since I sort of “knew” her and I genuinely liked her, and I cared for her daughter from a distance… I feel very conflicted about it.

    If Emily’s daughter wasn’t premature, with genetic and chromosomal problems, but was a normal kid who was made sick by her mother, I’d feel no confusion over the matter whatsoever. I just think this is a really complicated case.

  • Kathy

    Soiled an IV line? Put feces directly into the blood stream? I’m not a doctor, but that sounds a LOT more dangerous to the child than putting feces into the feeding tube. At least in a feeding tube, the feces could be partially processed by the body and some of the toxins removed by the body’s organs. But, directly tainting the blood stream and possibly causing what could be a fatal infection is attempted murder. The fact that she did it repeatedly and tried to hide, means it was pre-meditated.

    Barsyn2, I’m sorry you ever had to get hooked up with her. Your thoughts of her being a supermom aren’t far-fetched. How many times to the neighbors/acquaintences of serial killers say, “I knew that *bleep* was killing women and stuffing ‘em in the garbage dump”? Instead they all say “he was so quiet and helpful…. I just can’t believe it!”

    Hevel – I’m grateful that the child has loving family members who can provide a safe environment. That is good news.

  • Kathy

    Soiled an IV line? Put feces directly into the blood stream? I’m not a doctor, but that sounds a LOT more dangerous to the child than putting feces into the feeding tube. At least in a feeding tube, the feces could be partially processed by the body and some of the toxins removed by the body’s organs. But, directly tainting the blood stream and possibly causing what could be a fatal infection is attempted murder. The fact that she did it repeatedly and tried to hide, means it was pre-meditated.

    Barsyn2, I’m sorry you ever had to get hooked up with her. Your thoughts of her being a supermom aren’t far-fetched. How many times to the neighbors/acquaintences of serial killers say, “I knew that *bleep* was killing women and stuffing ‘em in the garbage dump”? Instead they all say “he was so quiet and helpful…. I just can’t believe it!”

    Hevel – I’m grateful that the child has loving family members who can provide a safe environment. That is good news.

  • Barsyn2

    I have a special needs child. My child has one of the same genetic disorders as Emily’s daughter. A mutual internet acquaintance introduced us (over the internet) when Emily’s daughter was about 12 months old. I’ve been following her Livejournal & Blogger ever since.

    I never suspected a thing. I always thought Emily was supermom. She never seemed unhappy to me. She took care of 3 kids, two of which were premature with health issues, but the youngest was the worst off. She had respiratory problems from the beginning and came home from the hospital on a trach ventilator. She has GI problems, heart problems, genetic kidney problems, chromosomal defects… some stuff you can’t fake.

    When the story first broke I was SHOCKED. I thought for sure she must have just cracked under the pressure and stress of taking care of two special needs kids. I thought she must have become depressed and cracked and in her unclear thinking sought relief from it by ending her daughter’s life. I can relate to being that exhausted and desperate. I can’t relate to hurting my child.

    As the hours pass, I’m starting to feel less pity and more disgust. I just don’t know what to think. I’d like to think she can be put on anti-depressants and everything will be peachy again. It’s really surreal to have a trusted acquaintance, someone you care about, suddenly turn out to be a fraud.

    And just for the sake of clarification – Emily did not shovel poop into her daughter’s mouth, or g-button. This was like a PICC line in her neck that went to her bloodstream for TPN (IV Nutrition) – because she could not eat normally. The news articles are misleading and sensationalizing the story to get your attention. Emily did not “feed” the child feces, she soiled an IV line. Equally sick, twisted and unacceptable… but very different.

  • Barsyn2

    I have a special needs child. My child has one of the same genetic disorders as Emily’s daughter. A mutual internet acquaintance introduced us (over the internet) when Emily’s daughter was about 12 months old. I’ve been following her Livejournal & Blogger ever since.

    I never suspected a thing. I always thought Emily was supermom. She never seemed unhappy to me. She took care of 3 kids, two of which were premature with health issues, but the youngest was the worst off. She had respiratory problems from the beginning and came home from the hospital on a trach ventilator. She has GI problems, heart problems, genetic kidney problems, chromosomal defects… some stuff you can’t fake.

    When the story first broke I was SHOCKED. I thought for sure she must have just cracked under the pressure and stress of taking care of two special needs kids. I thought she must have become depressed and cracked and in her unclear thinking sought relief from it by ending her daughter’s life. I can relate to being that exhausted and desperate. I can’t relate to hurting my child.

    As the hours pass, I’m starting to feel less pity and more disgust. I just don’t know what to think. I’d like to think she can be put on anti-depressants and everything will be peachy again. It’s really surreal to have a trusted acquaintance, someone you care about, suddenly turn out to be a fraud.

    And just for the sake of clarification – Emily did not shovel poop into her daughter’s mouth, or g-button. This was like a PICC line in her neck that went to her bloodstream for TPN (IV Nutrition) – because she could not eat normally. The news articles are misleading and sensationalizing the story to get your attention. Emily did not “feed” the child feces, she soiled an IV line. Equally sick, twisted and unacceptable… but very different.

  • Jamie

    I’m sure it is a mental disorder but not one that can be cured with medication or treatment. People with this problem should be locked up forever or kept away from children. Women with this disorder should have their tubes tied or a hysterectomy. I vote for a hysterectomy since it has been known that tube tying doesn’t work 100 % of the time.

  • Jamie

    I’m sure it is a mental disorder but not one that can be cured with medication or treatment. People with this problem should be locked up forever or kept away from children. Women with this disorder should have their tubes tied or a hysterectomy. I vote for a hysterectomy since it has been known that tube tying doesn’t work 100 % of the time.

  • sfdude_2008

    You stupid so-called mother! She actually cared more about her ugly self…AND ACTUALLY FORGOT THAT SHE HAD FOUR BLESSINGS!!!!! WAKE UP CALL!!! So you like to feed your children poop, eh? Well then, Emily McDonald, how about if we force-feed you with crap-tainted food of any kind (sorry for the pornographic reference, guys)!

  • sfdude_2008

    You stupid so-called mother! She actually cared more about her ugly self…AND ACTUALLY FORGOT THAT SHE HAD FOUR BLESSINGS!!!!! WAKE UP CALL!!! So you like to feed your children poop, eh? Well then, Emily McDonald, how about if we force-feed you with crap-tainted food of any kind (sorry for the pornographic reference, guys)!

  • Mare

    I have one special needs child – my daughter is profoundly deaf and has musculoskeletal issues as well. The only times I bring her up to attention is to get the best possible care, funding and education for her. I am a tiger Mama when it comes to my kid. And trust me, she is first in line everywhere she goes! I cannot imagine surfing on someone’s suffering to get attention. Not a day goes by that I don’t think that I would gladly cut off my ears with my dullest kitchen knife if it would let my baby hear me sing “I Love You Forever”

    I don’t care what mental issues the “mom” has. I would like to see her eat human sh*t sandwiches for breakfast, lunch and dinner for the rest of her natural life. Oh, maybe mix it up with some dog and horse… Sometimes the death penalty is too good for people.

  • Mare

    I have one special needs child – my daughter is profoundly deaf and has musculoskeletal issues as well. The only times I bring her up to attention is to get the best possible care, funding and education for her. I am a tiger Mama when it comes to my kid. And trust me, she is first in line everywhere she goes! I cannot imagine surfing on someone’s suffering to get attention. Not a day goes by that I don’t think that I would gladly cut off my ears with my dullest kitchen knife if it would let my baby hear me sing “I Love You Forever”

    I don’t care what mental issues the “mom” has. I would like to see her eat human sh*t sandwiches for breakfast, lunch and dinner for the rest of her natural life. Oh, maybe mix it up with some dog and horse… Sometimes the death penalty is too good for people.