Why you shouldn’t smoke weed, play Xbox and try to parent
Father Allegedly Suffocated Baby While He Slept:
30-year-old Emanuel Lawrence of Sunrise, Florida was arrested after he was found to have allegedly accidentally smothered his 7-month-old daughter to death.
It seems that Lawrence stayed up late smoking weed and playing a lot of Xbox. After he went to bed the baby mama woke him up and told him to feed the babies. He fed the 7-month-old and their 3-year-old, brought them back to bed with him.
Seven and a half hours later Lawrence woke up to discover he had rolled over on the 7-month-old in his sleep and suffocated her.
As my friend Rob Taylor says drug use is not a victimless crime. By the time you’re 30 with two kids you have no business still getting so high that you don’t know when you’ve rolled over on your own kid.
Thanks to Jake’s Daddy for the tip.
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November 27th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Where was the mom during those 7 1/2 hours? If she woke up the father to feed the kids, I’m assuming she stayed in bed to sleep, so when he came back to bed with the kids, they were all in bed, right? It never said where the mother was during this. Am I missing something?
November 27th, 2009 at 6:18 am
I read somwehere in another article that the mother went to work, i’ll see if i can find it to clarify.
November 27th, 2009 at 6:23 am
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/broward/sunrise/fl-baby-death-arrest-20091124,0,309409.story
Hopefully the above link will work ok, it says that the mother works during the day and goes to school at night.
November 28th, 2009 at 4:12 am
Thank you
November 27th, 2009 at 11:43 am
WTF. He stayed up until 6 am playing xbox, and realized when he woke up at 2:30 in the afternoon that he smothered his daughter. I just can’t wrap my head around that. Makes you wonder if his kids were on his nightowl schedule or what. It’s hard for me to imagine the 3 year old sibling sleeping until almost 3 in the afternoon…
Jay’s link gave a bit more info. These folks lived in a 2 bedroom and had a room mate – so the kids didn’t even have a room of their own to sleep in.
December 4th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
I can’t believe an entire blog devoted to pot bashing. I feel bad for this guy. Certainly alcoholics have killed more babies then pot heads. Christians have killed more people than both combined. People make mistakes, stop blaming it all on the pot.
December 5th, 2009 at 12:37 am
Tyler, you are right. We should stop blaming it all on the pot and start blaming it on the flaming fucktards that smoke it when they are responsible for the welfare of children. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
December 5th, 2009 at 1:55 am
Swoon….
November 27th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
OK, a 7 month old is big enough to squirm and try to move out of the way. This guy was really out of it if he actually smothered a 7 month old. And no way is a 3 year old going to sleep all day like that unless he’s been unnaturally put on a night owl schedule or was given something to make him sleep. WTF??? And what kind of loser stays up all night smoking pot and playing video games and then sleeps all day while his kids’ mother works & goes to school.
November 27th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Typical of pot smokers. Selfish and childish. He had children he should have been out working for but he got he sat around getting high and acting like he was a teen. Now a child payed with his life for his father’s immaturity.
November 27th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
They had an xbox and weed but no phone in the house
November 27th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Sadly when you have a moron as a parent, this type of thing will happen. It’s just way to sad when an immature parents behavior leads to the death of a child. How do you stop this though? Plus once again, the innocent is left to suffer.
November 27th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
As soon as an article mentions marijuana and the death of a child or any other inferred and almost always untruthful harm from marijuana the drug war prohibitionists have accomplished their goals and inferred that marijuana caused this death or other harm. This is exactly why so many Americans have been brainwashed by drug war propaganda.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/broward/sunrise/fl-baby-death-arrest-20091124,0,309409.story
In the article the reporter said “He allegedly smoked marijuana and stayed up all night playing a video game.” Later the article said: “He allegedly smoked marijuana with a friend outside his apartment in the afternoon, a police report said. He then played a video game on the Xbox gaming system until 6 a.m. the next day.”
Nowhere does it say he was smoking marijuana all night while playing the game. Are you starting to see how this article was cleverly worded to infer that marijuana contributed to the baby’s death?
The high from marijuana lasts no more than 3-4 hours at the very most. If in fact he had had no marijuana since the afternoon before and went to bed at 6 AM, AS THE ARTICLE PLAINLY SAYS, he certainly was not under the influence of marijuana at the time of this incident.
One commenter said “what kind of loser stays up all night smoking pot and playing video games” another said “Typical of pot smokers. Selfish and childish”.
I already pointed out the ERROR of the first commenter I mentioned. The second is completely misinformed. The vast majority of those that use marijuana use it in a safe responsible way and are well adjusted well functioning members of society.
Reefer madness scare tactics always fade in the light of truth. I’m not defending this guy but the article says he had been unemployed for several months, not that he never worked. It’s tough for anyone to get a job these days. I think the biggest mistake was letting a baby sleep in the bed with the parents.
No one of any age anywhere in the world in all of recorded history has ever died from the ingredients in marijuana. If the story contains accurate information about the marijuana use in this case then marijuana certainly had nothing to do with the death of this child.
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November 29th, 2009 at 4:57 am
Angelfire? Really? Are we back in 1998? Anyway if he was completely stoned on weed then how could he possibly have slept through suffocating his own child?
November 29th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Trench Reynolds,
What a brilliant comment. Is that the best you can do?
What are you COMPLETELY STONED ON? Whatever it is, it’s making you delusional. It’s causing you to babble incoherently and it’s making you think marijuana causes people to be comatose. Based on your reply to my comment, EVIDENTLY YOU THINK MARIJUANA IS THE ONLY THING THAT COULD HAVE POSSIBLY KEPT THIS MAN FROM WAKING UP. Where you there? If not, please tell us how you know (or think you know) exactly what happened. Do you have a crystal ball? Did you visit a fortune teller? COULD IT BE THAT THE MERE MENTION OF THE WORD MARIJUANA CAUSED YOU TO ASSUME THINGS? ARE YOU ADDICTED TO THE DRUG WAR? HAVE YOU READ AND HEARD SO MANY DRUG WAR PROPAGANDA LIES ABOUT MARIJUANA THAT YOU ARE BRAINWASHED?
I’m typing very, very slowly, so maybe you can keep up… NOWHERE IN THE MORE DETAILED ARTICLE REFERENCED IN OTHER COMMENTS DOES IT SAY THIS MAN USED ANY MORE MARIJUANA AFTER WHAT HE SMOKED OUTSIDE THE AFTERNOON BEFORE THE CHILD’S DEATH. Would you make the same claims if the article said the man had 2 beers the afternoon before?
You chose to re-write the facts! You said, “It seems that Lawrence stayed up late smoking weed and playing a lot of Xbox.” EXACTLY WHERE DID YOU GET INFORMATION ABOUT HIM SMOKING MARIJUANA ANY TIME OTHER THAN THE AFTERNOON PRIOR TO THIS ACCIDENT? Later you said, “By the time you’re 30 with two kids you have no business still getting so high that you don’t know when you’ve rolled over on your own kid.” If you have a reference to information that shows this man was under the influence of marijuana or anything else at the time of this accident, please share it with us, right now your credibility is in the toilet.
If you’re going to write something, stick to the FACTS and back them up with references!
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:52 am
fellow pot smoker here… i also occasionally stay up all night playing video games. but i have never put my child in any harm and provide everything he needs and more. my son has so far lived to be 8 and i’ve never smothered him. not everyone that smokes pot is a selfish loser. i would even consider myself a “pot-head”. (yeah, i said it) i’m not all obsessed with it, though.
JUST SAY KNOW: it’s great that you have all this knowledge, and you and i are definately on the same team, but it’s important to stress how intelligent, efficient, and effective we pot smokers can be. if you post like you have been posting, people are just going to see you as someone to laugh at, not someone to take seriously.
November 28th, 2009 at 5:37 am
Just Say Know, it’s pretty much pointless for you to stop in here spouting your drivel. There is plenty of research available for both sides of the equation as far as heavy pot smokers but the fact is that regardless of whether he was actually stoned at the time he rolled over and smothered the child or not it’s pretty much a moot point.
Had the douchebag not spent the day getting stoned and playing video games instead of oh, maybe getting a job and functioning as a productive member of society, one more child might be alive.
November 28th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Captain Obvious,
I’m sorry but I wasn’t aware my right to free speech had been removed and you have been put in charge of what facts I’m allowed to share and where I can share them.
It’s too bad you regard honest facts as drivel, I suppose it’s always pointless to point out facts to anyone that is incapable of a rational thought processes but I’ll continue for the benefit of those that don’t fall in that category.
There is a lot of “research” on both sides but before you accept it as unbiased fact, it’s always a good idea to find out who paid for the research and what they hoped to accomplish from it. It’s worth noting even government studies and court proceedings have shown marijuana is not worthy of its illegal status and that it has well documented medical uses. Here are a couple of examples:
On March 22, 1972 the Richard Nixon-appointed, 13-member National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse recommended the decriminalization of marijuana, concluding, “[Marijuana's] relative potential for harm to the vast majority of individual users and its actual impact on society does not justify a social policy designed to seek out and firmly punish those who use it.” Despite the recommendation against marijuana prohibition by his own well qualified National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse, president Richard Nixon started the war on drugs and escalated the myth that marijuana is a dangerous drug.
In 1988, after reviewing all evidence brought forth in a lawsuit against the government’s prohibition of medical marijuana, the DEA’s own administrative law judge (Judge Francis Young) wrote:
“The evidence in this record clearly shows that marijuana has been accepted as capable of relieving the distress of great numbers of very ill people, and doing so with safety under medical supervision. It would be unreasonable, arbitrary and capricious for the Drug Enforcement Administration to continue to stand between those sufferers and the benefits of this substance in light of the evidence.” Judge Young went on to say: “Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known. In strict medical terms, marijuana is safer than many foods we commonly consume.”
Marijuana wasn’t made illegal because it posed a threat to society, families or individuals. It was outlawed for two well documented reasons. 1. To illegally twist the law into protecting the financial self interests of a few powerful people that didn’t want competition from the many high quality products that are produced from the non-drug varieties of marijuana often called “hemp” and 2. As a tool for illegal racism (to harass Mexicans). Both are well documented. I’ve read the testimony. The very first federal vote to prohibit marijuana was based entirely on documented lies told on the floor of the Senate.
“Heavy pot smokers” is a great example of a phrase that often misleads people about marijuana. Here’s some good information on that from an expert with decades of personal “heavy pot smoking” experience: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvzX8aNwxgM
Yes the fact is, in the case we’re discussing, “he rolled over and smothered the child”, however the story is worded in such a way as to infer that marijuana played a role in the death of this child. The results of that are obvious by some of the comments here, so as you can see, this is far from a moot point.
Your “douchebag” comment, shows a complete lack of competent thinking and that you are unable to rationally digest the material you read and provide a quality comment. In the first place the article DID NOT say the man “spent the day getting stoned and playing video games”. I already pointed that fact out in my previous comment but you still don’t seem to understand the article plainly said “He allegedly smoked marijuana with a friend outside his apartment in the afternoon” and “he then played a video game on the Xbox gaming system until 6 a.m. the next day”. The high from marijuana lasts no more than 3 – 4 hours at the most, so if the article provides accurate information about the marijuana use, THERE IS NO WAY MARIJUANA HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS CHILD’S DEATH!
You assume you know way too much about this guy and exactly how he should conduct his private life. Did you even consider the possibility that this man could be among the millions of Americans that use marijuana to treat a medical condition that no other drug is as safe or effective at treating? If you doubt that marijuana has legitimate medical uses Google: Granny Storm Crow’s List.
As far as I know you have not been elected emperor of what anyone else is allowed to do. Nor are you anyone’s slave master that can dictate how they live. You know nothing about this man’s efforts to be employed and you certainly are in no position to decide for him or anyone else how they should or should not live their life.
My points on this issue are clear. Based on the information provided in the article, marijuana had NOTHING to do with the death of this child. Irresponsible drug war propaganda that causes people to assume rather than providing factual information is nothing but yellow journalism and it does much harm to society, families and individuals.
This appears to me to have been nothing more than a very unfortunate accident. It certainly could have been avoided. However, the way to have avoided it would have been to provide the child with a safe place to sleep.
My deepest sympathy go out to the family and friends of this child. I hope they can find it in their hearts to forgive the cruel heartless uninformed comments that have been made in this thread and that others that read this story will learn from it and not put infants in danger by putting them in bed with adults to sleep.
November 28th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Just Say Know:
No – your right to free speech has not been removed, but this blog is not intended to be used as a place to promote the legalization of pot (or any other substance for that matter). You are entitled to your own opinion, but nobody here really cares about debating that. What we do care about is the dead infant.
If you think that pot should be legalized, then by all means, go and lobby for new laws. Fighting this battle on this site will not help you to accomplish that goal, though. You are not going to change anyone’s mind, so you are essentially wasting your time promoting your views. If you have something to say about this particular incident, though, please share that with us.
November 28th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Angel,
Have you noticed that even though I have pointed out several times that this story plainly does NOT say this guy “stayed up all night using marijuana” people are STLL posting comments to the contrary and in their comments BLAMING marijuana as if it contributed to the death of this child? I’m not debating the lagalization of marijuana, NO ONE could win that debate against me or anyone else that knows the honest marijuana facts. I’m pointing out how YELLOW journalism CONTRIBUTES TO WRONGFUL ASSUMPTIONS among other harmful results. If the story had been worded in such a way that it did not create a wrongful unfactual blaming of marijuana, very evident by many comments, I wouldn’t have brought it up. Exactly what did your comment to me contribute? I don’t think you have the authority to tell me where or how to voice my thoughts.
November 29th, 2009 at 11:13 am
JustSayKnow:
You have made a few erroneous assumptions in your previous comment. You referenced ‘yellow journalism’….nowhere on this blog will you find anyone who claims that the stories here are any kind of journalism at all, yellow or otherwise. This is a place for all of us to come and give our opinions of the cruel animals who kill and maim their offspring.
You have said that others are basing their comments on erroneous information, but you are guilty of the same thing, too. You say that they have no proof that the guy stayed up all night smoking weed, but neither do you have any proof that he DIDN’T. You are basing your comment on your opinion of what you think did not happen, while others are basing their opinion on what they think DID. Were you there? You have no idea how much pot he smoked, or in what concentration, or at what time. So your guesses are as uninformed as others’ are. In your words, not mine.
And as for what my comment may or may not have contributed, I was attempting to inform you of the actual purpose of this blog, which you apparently still do not understand. Pot is not the criminal here, the irresponsible parent is. You are beating a dead horse by continuing to try to turn this article into a platform from which you can spout your marijuana views. Who the hell cares anyway? Give it a rest, already.
AND…..as for what ‘authority’ I have around here – I may not have as much as Trench, but I have a damn sight more than you do. Since I’m sure that the thing that brought you to this site was that you googled ‘pot conspiracies’ or ‘Marijuana myths’ or some other such BS, I will just suggest that you go and read a few of the OTHER stories on here. Many of them carry my by-line. I write for this blog in an official capacity. Which DOES confer upon me more authority than you have. If I wanted to be a witch, and stifle your opinions across the board, you would have already been banned. Think about it. The fact that you are still ABLE to post your comments here unmolested means that even though a lot of people on here may disagree with your opinion, you are still being permitted to voice it. Now, stop being a bore with a one-track mind, and get off of your conspiracy theorist bandwagon. Comment on a few other stories. Get to know the crew. And you might find that there are others on here who, while they may side with you on your views of pot, have learned to avoid such useless arguments in the stories. Get with the program.
November 28th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Have you got proof of this claim?
I know someone who had a seizure from smoking pot… yes, from smoking pot. Once she quit, she never had another seizure. Had she continued to smoke it, she very could have had serious complications from it, or conceivably died.
Also, my first child co-slept with my husband and I up until he was nearly a year old. Neither one of us ever rolled over on him, even when he was tiny and new. Most of the cases of a parent rolling over onto their child and smothering them have had either drugs (in any form, even sleeping pills) or alcohol involved. If it impairs your judgment and/or makes you sleep more deeply, then you’re less likely to be aware of your little one sleeping next to you.
A person who smokes pot is more likely to sleep more deeply after they’ve come down off their high. Also, the more often a person smokes, the shorter the “high” is. I’ve known enough pot smokers to know this.
November 28th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
actually thats not true dodiafae- pot is the only drug that actually lessens your tolerence as you smoke to get the same lasting high.(as in regulars smokers don’t have to smoke as much to get high or stay high) And that IS a proven fact. Anyone who studies Psychology or anything with drugs effect on the body can attest to that.
anywho… This man smokes the ganja and then plays xbox until 6am? REALLY? What is he a 30 year old college freshman? the mom was working and going to school and all he had to do was provide the childcare-what a fucktard.
November 28th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Hmm… the people I’ve known to smoke pot almost always ended up smoking more and more as time went on. When they went a period of time without smoking, they needed very little to get high, and in some cases would get high just being in the room with someone smoking it. It’s entirely possible that it was psychological, though.
November 28th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
DodiaFae,
Yes I have absolute proof that “No one of any age anywhere in the world in all of recorded history has ever died from the ingredients in marijuana.” You can look it up for yourself, one good source is : the United States government, National Institute on Drug Abuse, Bureau of Mortality Statistics. You can see a chart about that on the JSK website, I’ll put a link at the bottom of this post. There has never been a single death certificate that listed marijuana as the cause of death. Just Google: deaths caused by marijuana. Marijuana is in fact so nontoxic that it is virtually impossible to consume enough of it to kill a person. There is a term called LD50 (Median lethal dose), it is used to describe the amount of a substance required to kill a person. Depending on which US Government authority you want to believe, the lethal dose of marijuana is either about one-third your body weight, or about 1,500 pounds, consumed all at once. “Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal effects but marijuana is not such a substance. “There is no record in the extensive medical literature describing a proven, documented cannabis-induced fatality.” http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/LIBRARY/mj_overdose.htm
You can’t include deaths from accidents while under the influence of marijuana because there is no way to prove that the mild impairment from marijuana actually caused dangerous or careless actions that precipitated death. In fact, many reputable sources say people under the influence of marijuana are well aware they are mildly impaired and they effectively compensate by slowing down and being more cautious. I’ve interviewed several traffic officers about driving under the influence of marijuana. They all said pretty much the same things, “except for the smell of marijuana or actually seeing someone using it, the only way they could spot a marijuana impaired driver was by looking for drivers that were going a little too slow or being a little too cautious”.
I doubt that you friend’s seizure was actually caused by the ingredients in marijuana. Marijuana has in fact been used to treat seizures and many other medical conditions safely and effectively. Google “ marijuana causes seizures “. I’m sure you’ll find evidence on both sides but I expect the overwhelming evidence will be that it does not cause seizures in the vast majority of users, if at all. Many blatantly inaccurate claims have been made over the years, particularly by those that sought to demonize marijuana for their own personal financial gains. As I noted in an earlier post: In 1988, after reviewing all evidence brought forth in a lawsuit against the government’s prohibition of medical marijuana, the DEA’s own administrative law judge (Judge Francis Young) wrote:
“The evidence in this record clearly shows that marijuana has been accepted as capable of relieving the distress of great numbers of very ill people, and doing so with safety under medical supervision. It would be unreasonable, arbitrary and capricious for the Drug Enforcement Administration to continue to stand between those sufferers and the benefits of this substance in light of the evidence.” Judge Young went on to say: “Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known. IN STRICT MEDICAL TERMS, MARIJUANA IS SAFER THAN MANY FOODS WE COMMONLY CONSUME.”
This clip is very enlightening about heavy long term marijuana use, its medical value and its long term effects: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvzX8aNwxgM
I personally would NEVER sleep with an infant in the bed with me. During sleep you are unconscious, you may or may not wake up and save your child’s life if you were to roll on top of him/her. To me it seems like a situation that puts the child in much unnecessary danger.
Every drug affects each individual a little differently. There is no scientific evidence that I know of to support your statement that “A person who smokes pot is more likely to sleep more deeply after they’ve come down off their high.” Using marijuana tends to relax a person not wear them out. As I said earlier, if this man smoked marijuana in the afternoon the day before and then stayed up all night, the effects of his marijuana use would have long passed and marijuana could not have directly contributed to the death of this child. Again every person reacts to drugs differently but if as you said “the more often a person smokes, the shorter the “high” is”, then if this man uses marijuana often, the effects of his use would have worn off even quicker and therefore been LESS apt to have anything to do with this child’s death.
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November 29th, 2009 at 10:33 am
There is no doubt that her seizure was caused by smoking pot. None. A person who had no history of seizures smokes pot and has one while she’s smoking it, stops smoking and hasn’t another in the nearly 10 years since… it was the pot. She had an MRI not long after the incident which showed no problems that would cause her to have a seizure.
As Angel pointed out, this is not a “legalize pot” blog. It’s a child abuse blog. No one should be smoking pot when they’re going to be solely responsible for any child. That is completely irresponsible. They’re putting that child at risk. If you want to advocate for the legalization of pot, then by all means go start a blog for it. I’m sure there are already hundreds out there.
But here, you’re not going to convince anyone that it’s “harmless”. Nothing is “harmless”, no matter the medicinal value. It all has side effects and consequences when misused. Even homeopathy can have serious side effects if taken incorrectly. Even a massage can cause damage if done incorrectly. Hell, if a pregnant woman drinks pennyroyal tea, it can cause her to miscarry. Get a fucking clue, you moron.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Also, if the guy had been smoking it for legitimate medicinal reasons, it would show up in one of these news articles. It hasn’t. He wasn’t.
November 29th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
DodiaFae,
There is no reason for anyone to believe, as you said, “if the guy had been smoking it for legitimate medicinal reasons, it would show up in one of these news articles.”
Just because the story doesn’t say so, that doesn’t remove the possibility. Again you are ASSUMING you know something based on ABSOLUTELY NO FACTUAL INFORMATION.
November 29th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
DodiaFae,
Like I said everyone reacts to every drug a little differently but have you ever considered that your friend’s seizure and the lack of them for 10 years with no marijuana smoking could just be a coincidence? I’m not saying your friend or anyone else for that matter, should smoke pot. All I’m saying is stick to the facts. Nothing you have posted about this incident with your friend proves (as you seem to think it does) that marijuana caused the seizure. The MRI you mentioned certainly didn’t show that marijuana CAUSED the seizure. You’re basing your entire argument about seizures on an isolated incident and few FACTS. That’s far from scientific proof.
I never said this was a legalize pot blog. It caught my attention because a child was killed and if marijuana caused it I wanted to know. Once I read the known facts (which I had already read in the more detailed article before reading this blog), I saw, BASED ON THE AVAILABLE FACTS provided in the story, there is NO WAY marijuana could have CAUSED or even CONTRIBUTED to this child’s death.
Fabricated stories like this blog contains do nothing but fuel reefer madness. Despite the claims of the drug war, marijuana is not the killer it has been made out to be. Certainly there are risks but blatantly false claims about marijuana is EXACTLY what has caused the drug war and drug prohibition to escalate into one of, (if not THE) most harmful policies in this country.
Right now someone is arrested every 38 seconds on a marijuana charge in the USA. The criminalizing of this substance and the criminal punishment of anyone that uses it for ANY purpose certainly are not warranted. A few years ago I started doing research to get to the bottom of why, here in the “land of the free” such a policy is on the books. What I found was, it had absolutely nothing to do with harms caused by marijuana. Marijuana prohibition was implemented , as I stated previously, to protect the financial interests of a few powerful people and as a racial tool to use against Mexicans. It all began with lies and the lies have been spreading like wildfire ever since.
These laws harm far more people than marijuana ever has or ever will. How many kids are without their mother and/or father right now as we speak because they are in jail over this unjust law? How many parents can’t get a decent job and support their kids because they have a conviction or even an arrest on their record over marijuana? There’s no way to adequately discuss this subject without looking at the broader FACTS. If I sound like I’m promoting marijuana or trying to sell people on legalizing marijuana, those are not my intentions. I’m simply pointing out FACTS and speaking out against the UN-FACTUAL commentary in this blog, which is doing much harm.
I never said marijuana was harmless. You said, ” No one should be smoking pot when they’re going to be solely responsible for any child. That is completely irresponsible. They’re putting that child at risk.” If marijuana was causing a significant number of children to be harmed the sheer numbers of marijuana smokers in this Country would be causing masses of children to be killed or injured every day. That simply is not happening, so your statement is without merit. As you said, many things COULD cause a child to be harmed, do you propose they all should be illegal and everyone that does anything potentially harmful should be incarcerated? Jumping on the bandwagon and blaming marijuana for the death of this child based on NO supporting evidence makes the same amount of sense as claiming driving with your kids in the car is irresponsible. Who’s really acting like a moron here, you or me?
November 28th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
This is the exact reason my children always slept in their own bed. Any good doctor will ask about the childs sleeping arrangements at every one of the countless appointments that babies have to go to. What a easily avoidable death.
November 28th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Our family doctor has asked us about it, as well. We co-slept our first, and are co-sleeping our second. What it comes down to is using some common sense. If you’re on any sort of medications, don’t do it. If you’re a really heavy sleeper, don’t do it. If you’ve been drinking alcohol, don’t do it.
One of the main reasons I chose to keep my babies with me was because I felt it was safer to nurse them in bed, where they’re not going to fall to the floor when I inevitably fall asleep while nursing at 2am, as opposed to sitting in the rocking chair where there is the very real possibility of me falling asleep and dropping him.
I’m a light sleeper, so I know I won’t roll over onto my baby (I’ve had lots of practice with my cat… anyone who’s been owned by a cat will know what I’m talking about, like when they sleep on your leg and you don’t move all night for the guilt of disturbing their comfort.) It’s the same with the baby. I’m always very aware of where he is.
However, this guy clearly shouldn’t have been co-sleeping. As I said, a 7 month old is big enough and strong enough to squirm and move and make a fuss. How can anyone roll onto something as large as a 7 month old baby and not wake up???
November 28th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Exactly, plus, with the baby in bed, you don’t get your sleep as interrupted for feeding, I would feed him, roll over when he was done, taking him over to the other side so we were ready for the next feeding, all without either of us waking all the way up. It made it easier to get back to sleep (and since he was a preemie, I didn’t want him to expend any more energy for eating then he had to, so he could put it all to growing, which he did very well, and is still doing). And yeah, I guess my 12 year old Maine Coon cross did give me lots of practice, she also used to join us in bed, but my husband would frak out and think she was on the baby (she wasn’t, she stayed away from his face, and really didn’t even touch him, except maybe a paw on his shoulder, he is the only child she tolerates), I’ve had her since she was 6 weeks old, so she’s kind of my first baby, and I worked very hard so she wouldn’t be jealous of the human baby, and she doesn’t seem to be. The irony is, I sleep pretty deep when the little guy isn’t in the bed, but if he’s there, or I need to get up early for some reason, I sleep pretty light.
guy probably exhausted himself to the poiont where he slept the sleep fo the dead, and definitely shouldn’t have had the baby in the bed, especially since she aparently had a crib he could have put her in.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:36 am
I just thought I would take the least amount of risk. I don’t care about co-sleeping, but logically there is a risk involved (as you pointed out with your list of safety precautions). There is risk in everything, like riding in a car. However, there too I take the smallest risk and buckle them in car seats. When it comes to those children I have to be ethically obligated to weigh risks with logic and reasoning, not emotion. I have never heard a logical argument for co-sleeping that outweighs the risk in my mind.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:41 am
That is because you’re a good parent.
You aren’t completely sure you won’t harm your child by co-sleeping, so you don’t do it. It’s common sense, really.
November 28th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
This is a terrible story. A parent should not be up all night getting high and playing video games. The baby should have been put in her crib.
November 29th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Why I think marijuana is bad.
1. A group of teen boys who were smoking weed thought it would be fun to drag me behind a bldg and try to undress me. It took every ounce of strength I had to get away from that group “unharmed.”
2. My cousin liked to shove me against a wall or a car or whatever when he was high and “explore” me. I didn’t tell because he said he’d kill me and everyone in the family thought he walked on water.
3. My bf who wouldn’t give up drinking and smoking decided (while high) that he would determine when it was time for me to lose my virginity, even though I was trying to break up with him because of the drinking and smoking.
4. My friend’s father thought that I (as a child of 9) looked good in my jeans when he was smoking. Totally different guy when he wasn’t high. That friendship didn’t last because I was very much afraid of her father. I can only imagine what he did to her.
5. My friend lost her child because a guy who was high on weed decided to drive and he hit them head on. She almost died.
So, spout all you want about the harmlessness of marijuana. I have vivid life experiences that tell me different.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Anonymous,
I never said marijuana was harmless, please don’t twist my words. I certainly never said no one ever did anything wrong or stupid while under the influence of marijuana either. I will say in response to your comments however, that there is ABSOLUTELY no factual evidence that shows marijuana causes aggressive, violent actions. Alcohol certainly has been proven to often cause people to be violent and agressive but MARIJUANA HAS NOT.
November 29th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
@Just Say Know: so then, according to you, this bad publicity marijuana has received is all really just a big conspiracy to scare off consumers? sort of like the war against tobacco? sort of like “mom’s against drunk drivers” aka madd? sort of like warning women to get mamograms for early detection of breast cancer? kind of like saying “don’t be a fool, stay in school”? wow…i for one am amazed. i fell for all of this and now i find out, courtesey of justsayknow….i can smoke marijuana and have no side affects for myself or others….
then i guess tobacco must be good for me…driving drunk is cool…forget those uncomfortable mamograms…and kiddies…no more school.
thanks justsayknow….you’ve been a real light in the darkness.
November 29th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Karen,
Your attempt to twist my words and include subjects that have no relevance is ridiculous. The conspiracy to prohibit marijuana was fist and foremost designed to prevent marijuana from competing in a free legal market against inferior and far more environmentally harmful products that were and still are being produced by powerful people and corporations. It was also designed to be used as a tool of racism against Mexicans. IT HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH MARIJUANA CAUSING HARM TO SOCIETY, FAMILIES OR INDIVIDUALS. If you doubt that, look it up. I posted two links to in depth information about that on the JSK homepage. If you buy into the drug war propaganda YOU HAVE BEEN DUPED. If you doubt that, use the link below, visit the JSK site and read “Marijuana Facts The Government Does Not Want You To Know” and “Why Is Marijuana Illegal”. After you enlighten yourself, I wait your reply! Also, if you have any factual information to the contrary, please post a reference, I’ll certainly read it and get back to you if you do.
Here’s the link to the JSK site:
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November 29th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
The issue is that lack of sleep and smoking pot caused this. If this assclown hadn’t been smoking weed and playing video games till dawn he might not have been so passed out to not feel his daughter struggling for life underneath him. I slept often with my first child and although I was always tired I felt his every move. And anyone who has smoked weed knows that you sleep harder when you smoke it and you’re tired. I woke up with a burned cigarette in my hand, but guess what? I DIDN’T HAVE CHILDREN THEN!!! You don’t have kids? Then smoke your shoes for all I care. Bottom line as of November 29th 2009 pot IS illegal. You have no business having illegal drugs and children in the same house. And the mother should have booted this loser right back his mother’s basement where he belonged. I’m not anti-pot. Like I said if you don’t have kids go for it. Eventually we all have to grow up. Smoking weed is something 20 year olds do, not parents. I don’t even have more than a glass of wine if my kids are here. I need to be alert to protect them. Even from me. Your kids didn’t ask to be here. When are people going to stop always thinking of themselves 1st and start doing what’s right?
November 29th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
SarahR,
The FACT is, according to the more in depth article about this tragedy, referenced in earlier comments, the ONLY mention of marijuana use in this case happened far to many hours prior to the child’s death for marijuana to have contributed to the death of this child.
Inevitably when anyone speaks out against any law, no matter how bad that law is, someone always says “but it’s illegal” to break the law. The fact is, the drug war and drug prohibition are ILLEGAL. When alcohol was prohibited, that required an amendment to the Constitution to be legal. There has been no such amendment with drug prohibition. I’m pretty sure it was illegal to throw tea in the Boston harbor too but once the founders of this Country got enough of being oppressed that’s exactly what they did.
Visit the JSK website, (link below) read “Marijuana Facts The Government Does Not Want You To Know” and “Why is Marijuana Illegal” ! Watch the video that auto-starts when the site first loads and the video to the left of that one and then get back to me about what is legal and what is not!
Unless you are living isolated from the world, you know millions of Americans are breaking not only the marijuana laws but every other drug prohibition law on a huge scale. Who is profiting from this?… Criminals, gangsters and terrorists, BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OUR GOVERNMENT.
Once the voters have the honest facts about drugs and drug policy, 80% support drug policy reform in the form of honest drug education and rational legal regulation! Look at tobacco. That is the ONLY real success in US history when it comes to significantly reducing drug related death, disease and drug use. According to Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, roughly half of all tobacco users have stopped using that deadly and highly addictive drug in the last couple of decades. We didn’t prohibit tobacco. We didn’t have a war on tobacco users. This amazing feat was accomplished through honest drug education and rationally regulating the legal use of tobacco. The drug war has NEVER reduced use of ANY illegal drug BY 50%, NOT A SINGLE ONE!
Drug warriors are continuously sweeping the laws of this Country under the rug and trying to convince the citizens of this Country that we are not capable of making our own decisions about what we choose to put in our own bodies. That’s the same tactic that was used on the American Indians, “you’re not smart enough to govern yourselves, you need the “Great Father in Washington” to tell you what’s best for you”. We all know how well that turned out for the native Americans. The drug war is no different. It is a hoax, a smokescreen, designed to make everyone think the drug war prohibitionists are doing something good for America and Americans while in fact they are taking away Constitutional rights and freedoms like no other policy in the history of this Country and doing much more harm to society, families and individuals than the drugs them selves ever have or ever will!
By your own admission you are completely capable of ingesting a reasonable amount of alcohol and still being a responsible parent. What makes you think marijuana users are any different?
Please watch the video that auto-starts when the site loads and the one to the left of it and get back to me about what is LEGAL and what is not.
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November 29th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Angel,
Yellow Journalism is publicly posting ANYTHING that exploits, distorts, or exaggerates the news to create sensations and attract readers. I’m all for protecting children but I can’t help but speak out when erroneous information and the death of a child are exploited through the twisting of facts and those facts are helping to promote an illegal and unjust prohibition law and shred Constitutional rights in the process.
I never said the guy DIDN’T stay up all night smoking pot. I SAID BASED ON THE FACTS REPORTED, THAT WAS NOT THE CASE. That is not my OPINION, my comments are BASED ON THE REPORTED FACTS.
NO I WAS NOT THERE AND I NEVER MADE ANY CLAIM TO HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THE EVENTS OTHER THAN THOSE REPORTED IN THE STORY. So, as you can see my statements about the marijuana use in this case have not been OPINIONS, GUESSES OR SUPPOSITIONS, they have been based on the available factual information. The article ONLY mentions this man using marijuana the afternoon before the accident, THAT’S A FACT OF THE STORY AS IT WAS REPORTED and as I pointed out IF that was the last time he used marijuana then the effects of marijuana had worn off long before the death of this child.
I understand completely what the purpose of this blog is but it has more than one effect and there is no reason for you or anyone else to be offended when someone points out the facts in the original story have been twisted and this blog is not only speaking out against bad parenting but also claiming, BASED ON NO FACTUAL EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that marijuana contributed or possibly even caused this child’s death. I’ve seen the harm such stories cause and it’s no small amount of harm. I’m not trying to turn this blog into a platform where I can ” spout my marijuana views”, I’m simply pointing out the NON FACT BASED INFORMATION AND COMMENTS. If that offends you I’m sorry but sometimes the truth hurts.
There you go again ASSUMING you know things you have no possible way of knowing… “how and why I came here”. All I’m saying is stick to the facts, stop ASSUMING and posting as if it were factual. If I have posted untruths or off topic information then by all means use your “authority” or whatever pull you have and remove my comments or ban me from the blog but if you are simply ticked off because I pointed out your errors and other misinformation here, then have enough character to admit your mistakes instead of seeking to sensor the truth like some mistress of the blog Nazi. Getting with the program should first and foremost include accurate information. The free exchange of ideas and opinions and a free press are part of what makes this Country great but when “authority” is misused and those in power seek to suppress or twist the facts and those facts do much harm, don’t you think someone should speak out and try and correct the errors?
November 29th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Betcha “Just Say Know” is one of those people who think it’s OK to smoke pot but who make a big stink if they so much as walk past someone smoking a cigarette in public. I’ve never understood the appeal of lighting a fire two inches from your face and inhaling smoke, no matter WHAT it is you’re smoking. People die of smoke inhalation in fires yet we need science to tell us that inhaling ANY kind of smoke — whether weed or tobacco — is bad for us.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
As long as they don’t harm other people, I’m not in favor of prohibiting anyone from putting anything they like in their own body. I believe each person’s rights end where the next person’s rights begin.
Since you brought up tobacco and smoking, here’s a bit of info on that:
Myth: Marijuana is More Damaging to the Lungs Than Tobacco. Marijuana smokers are at a high risk of developing lung cancer, bronchitis, and emphysema.
Fact: Moderate smoking of marijuana appears to pose minimal danger to the lungs. Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens. But marijuana users typically smoke much less often than tobacco smokers, and over time, inhale much less smoke. As a result, the risk of serious lung damage should be lower in marijuana smokers. There have been no reports of lung cancer related solely to marijuana, and in a large study presented to the American Thoracic Society in 2006, even heavy users of smoked marijuana were found not to have any increased risk of lung cancer. Unlike heavy tobacco smokers, heavy marijuana smokers exhibit no obstruction of the lung’s small airway. That indicates that people will not develop emphysema from smoking marijuana.
http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#tobacco
Also well worth reading:
http://www.harmreductionjournal.com/content/2/1/21
Even very, very heavy marijuana smoking for decades has not produced the results you seem concerned about for this man:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1NggzEkltM
You can much more easily drink enough water to kill you than you can use enough marijuana to harm you. Do you propose we prohibit water? Almost nothing is 100% safe.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
It seems as though “Just Say Know” is sitting atop his computer, just waiting for people to respond so he can pounce. It also seems that “Just Say Know” is either very long-winded, or they’ve got their pat answers in a file, ready to cut & paste.
Either way, they’ve got entirely too much spare time on their hands.
BTW, JSK, yes, it was the pot that caused the seizure. She cleared a bowl and immediately had the seizure. She thought she had died until she came out of it and literally had to crawl to her bed because every muscle and joint in her body hurt so much that she could barely move.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
DodiaFae,
Here we go again, when the opposition runs out of bullets, they almost always resort to personal attacks!
That proves nothing!
Like I said what happened to your friend is based in no facts whatsoever and was more than likely just a coincidence or it could have had some other drug mixed in with it or there could have been many other causes. Because of prohibition most “illegal” drug users have no idea what they are putting into their body.
I’m not saying it is impossible that marijuana had something to do with what happened to your friend and if you or your friend ar anyone else choose to be cautious that’s certainly up tp you but it in no way makes a credible argument for prohibiting all parents from using marijuana.
November 29th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Sure, except that she has never even tried any other drug (other than alcohol, and she wasn’t drinking any that night) and was only smoking pot because it was “safe”.
BTW, if you don’t want folks pointing out the obvious, try not being so obvious.
November 29th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
Amen!… if you don’t want folks pointing out the obvious, try not being so obvious.
November 29th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
I was only pointing out what you were doing, since others had already pointed out the sad fact that you came to a discussion about a child dying to debate whether or not pot should be legalized.
I’m done feeding the tolls for tonight. I’m going to bed.
November 29th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Whatever the feelings are on pot, he knocked himself out, then knocked his infant out, PERMANENTALLY. I again wonder if these really are “accidents”, like the “oh, I accidentally forgot my child in the hot car for 8 hours” or “I accidentally was carrying a gun while pushing a stroller with my infant” VERY all-too-convenient ways to get rid of a child. So far, not very indictable either.
November 30th, 2009 at 12:29 am
Agreed.
November 30th, 2009 at 7:52 am
ROFL just say know, lots of people are laughing at you right now, its what they do when they come across that level of stoned arrogance. I love it, what a few cones into them and its all arguing and freedom of speech (unless your opinion differs from mine) I have had too many people in my life screwed from pot for anyone to eer change my mind about it, yes all your articles are very pro dope, but i can find a million more anti dope ones, and really any mind that you can change by telling a few conspiracy theories isnt one worth swaying! So by all means remain up there on your little soapbox, have a few more cones and continue with your I’m right your wrong attitude (gee how many stoners do I know with THAT trait?) and we will continue to sit back and laugh at your behaviour. I am sure you will write back soon telling me how i am wrong and blah blah blah coz lets face it, you seem to like the sound of, well not your own voice, but your own thoughts, and repeating yourself, so go ahead and reword what you have already written 15 times perhaps it will get through to us this time!
November 30th, 2009 at 9:33 am
OMG does JSK actually expect someone to read all that crap?? *yawn* get a life buddy.
November 30th, 2009 at 9:47 am
just so everyone knows….the assclown above is not representative of most legalization advocates, and the assclown with the XBox is not representative of most pot smokers.
Marijuana is comparable to alcohol—it should be legal for recreational use by adults. If you disregard your responsibilities (especially with regards to your kids) to stay up all night and use mind-altering substances, whether it’s alcohol or marijuana, and play freaking video games, you can hardly call yourself an adult.
Someone mentioned assaults and reckless driving by someone under the influence of weed, and that’s terrible. Of course the weed had a part in it—just like alcohol, or novicaine for that matter, weed lowers inhibition and messes up the senses, and reasonable advocates understand this and should push for harsh penalties for people who drive or commit crimes under the influence of any recreational substance. And, yes, in some people weed can cause or worsen seizures. So can artificial sweetener, or strobe lights. No reason to ban it, just put real information out there and try and keep irresponsible assshats from being in charge of children.
November 30th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Finally, a bit of logic from that side of the debate… at least I can respect your take on it, even if I’m not convinced it should be legalized.
November 30th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
My thoughts exactly
November 30th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
I did try weed once, and did notice that the effects on me personally were the same as alcohol. I decided that if the effects are the same, I would choose to use the legal substance. And I didn’t have any kids at the time, it was just me, my boyfriend at the time, our roommate and some of her friends (although someone there did walk off with my brand new bottle of Captain Morgan’s, which did upset me, since it wasn’t even opened yet, my guess is one of the friends, but they all denied it).
November 30th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Y’all…as far as JSK is concerned….someone this past weekend made a comment that I think is most appropriate for those of his ilk:
Never argue with an idiot – they’ll just drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Maybe if we ignore him he’ll get bored and go away.
November 30th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
ROFLMFAO
You’re absolutely right, Angel. Whoever said that is a genius.
November 30th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I can’t remember right off hand who said it…must be the lingering effects of the fruitcake…hmmmm? I’m always happy to share a smile.
November 30th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
that must be some goood fruitcake, lol
December 1st, 2009 at 8:36 am
Jenn…the recipe for the fruitcake is posted on the Happy Thanksgiving thread. Take a look and you’ll understand….
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:34 am
Lol!
December 5th, 2009 at 12:31 am
Tyler – I have NEVER met a smart pot head. You are proving my point.
December 11th, 2009 at 11:39 am
This is such nonsense…I smoke marijuana every single day. I don’t use large amounts, I really only hit the pipe 4-5 times per day, but I still stay high pretty much all day every day. I have a wife of 6 years and 2 beautiful children, ages 6 and 2. I am a very loving and caring father, and of course I never smoke around my children. I also play XBOX at night, but I don’t stay up all night. I also have the ability to WAKE UP when either of my kids are in distress.
The man in this article, whether he was smoking pot or not, suffocated his kid because of SLEEP DEPRIVATION. He stayed up until 6am instead of sleeping, and he was probably so mentally exhausted that he didn’t even realize his child was in jeopardy. Don’t blame weed, videogames, or any other outside factor. If this man would have slept at night like most normal people do, this likely wouldn’t have happened. Who knows how many hours this man stayed awake before he finally crashed…it could have been days (which is likely, considering how hard he was obviously sleeping).
December 11th, 2009 at 11:58 am
OK, I have to ask… is “ARC” really John playing another joke? Because I honestly couldn’t get past eh second sentence (“I hit the pipe 4-5 times per day”) without falling out of my chair laughing. Really? You stay high all day, every day, and your kids haven’t been removed from that environment? Something’s wrong here…
December 11th, 2009 at 11:55 am
April – here’s my response to your comment…
I graduated high school as a member of the National Honor Society and a Texas Scholar. I made the Dean’s List in college and received my Bachelor’s Degree in Marketing from a major university. My teachers and professors always said I was one of their brightest students. I currently work for an IT company (going on 4 years) and recently passed my MCP (Microsoft Certified Professional) exam with 978 points out of 1000…which set the high score for my entire department. I constantly receive praise at my job for all my hard work and dedication. I rarely ever miss work and honestly perform BETTER after I’ve smoked a little Mary Jane…..oh yeah, and the owner of our company is 28 years old, a self-made millionaire, and he’s one of the smartest, most motivated people I’ve ever met…and he’s a HUGE pothead.
So, even though we haven’t officially met, now you can tell people that you know of at least TWO smart potheads.
Most “dumb” potheads usually are stupid idiots who are destined for failure before they ever try pot or any other drug for the first time. As a wise man once said, “you can’t fix stupid…”
December 11th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
DodiaFae –
You obviously know nothing about marijuana if you’re making comments about how my children should be removed from my care…hitting the pipe 4-5 times per day doesn’t make you stoned all day…it basically gives you a nice little buzz, which is nothing compared to alcohol or other hard drugs. You want to bash me for being a parent who smokes minimal amounts of marijuana on a daily basis? I never neglect my responsibilities at work or at home, and I take care of my kids like any good father would…my “buzz” never gets in the way. So many parents put their kids in harm’s way much more than I do…there are parents who smoke cigarettes indoors, parents who get drunk and abuse their kids (or pass out and neglect them), parents who are so cracked out on hard drugs that they can’t even function. Those are the kind of parents that deserve to have their kids taken away…I don’t ever and WILL NEVER use marijuana around my children, period.
December 11th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Wow. Contradict yourself much?
You said, “I really only hit the pipe 4-5 times per day, but I still stay high pretty much all day every day.”
So, you may not actually smoke in front of your kids (which we’ll just have to take you at your word, I suppose), but you’re high nearly (or to use your own words, “pretty much”) all the time your with them. Well then, that makes it OK, doesn’t it.
If you don’t think that smoking pot effects you as much as alcohol does, you either don’t know as much about it as you think, or you’re in denial.
December 11th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Yep, I must be in denial. I don’t know anything about the natural PLANT that I have been using for many years. It certainly hasn’t helped with my depression, bad temper, ADD, or any of the other disorders I suffered from before using marijuana. Call CPS, I’m a terrible father and my kids don’t deserve a dad that cares for them, feeds them, bathes them, plays with them, and loves them.
And where did I contradict myself? Again, you don’t seem to know much about this PLANT that you continue to bash. There’s a big difference between being “high” and being “stoned”. Do I get high? Yes. Does hitting the pipe one time every 4-5 hours leave me feeling stoned? Definitely not. Have you ever tried it? My guess is no, you haven’t…
December 11th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
ARC – You said “Texas”…. That’s all I needed. Thanks.
Dodia, he’s serious. These comments are NOT a joke. Texas doesn’t grow a crop of rocket scientists. Trust me!! All the smart Texans get the fuck out of that Hell hole!
December 11th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Wow..that’s pretty low of you to insult my home state. And where do you live? I bet your state also produces plenty of stupid people…oh, and ironically, my grandfather was a TEXAS NATIVE and worked for NASA…he also had 4 or 5 different PHD’s and won many different awards for his brilliance in physics and jet-engine propulsion…so yea, Texas did grow a rocket scientist…
Please, sweetheart, don’t be mad because some “stupid” pothead is smarter and more successful than you could ever dream of being…I’m sure you’ll make a great housewife someday…
December 11th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Okay – That is truly laughable. I have lots of family that live in Texas. I was smart and got the fuck out. You are a typical Texan to me, arrogant and full of shit. YEHAW!!! Hook ‘em fucking horns.
December 11th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Well, at least you know what team to support. Hook ‘em horns, indeed!! And you say typical Texans are full arrogant and full of shit? Well, that must apply to people from (insert name of your state here) also, because that seems to be exactly what’s spewing from your keyboard. Since when did this become a Texan-bashing session? I guarantee you that Texas has plenty of intelligent, down-to-earth residents, just like every other state in the freakin US. You argument holds absolutely no weight, so please just stop embarassing yourself and quit…
December 11th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Bwahahahahahahahaha*gasp*hahahahahahahaha.
April a housewife? I think I just ruptured a blood vessel or something….
December 11th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
I’m being forgiving on that one. He doesn’t realize that I am probably 10 times hotter that the broad he married. I have a *gasp* job that pays more a year that he payed for his home in glorious Texas. My husband thinks I’m a pretty rocking surf betty – so what the fuck do I care what this fool thinks of me??
December 11th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
This isn’t about Texas – Like I said, I was born there. I left to get away from the fucking idiots the reside there. As for the state I live in now – ya, it’s full of idiots also, but less fucked up than Texas. People ion Texas think TX is the do all end all. Enough with the state pride. WHo fucking cares? You are still a moron. Hmmmmm – I am not the one spewing on this site that I am a responsible parent that smokes pot. Embarrassing MYSELF?? HA! You should take your own advise. Pot smoking is hardly responsible parenting – even if you don’t do it in front of your kids. It’s FUCKING ILLEGAL!!!!! I guess if you weren’t fucking high right now you would be able to comprehend that.
January 18th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
@ARC Isn’t this blog supposed to be about the kid, not bashing each other?