She’s as Stupid as He is Nasty
I would like to thank Bridget for the tip and the title to this story. The title idea was all hers, and I hope she doesn’t mind me using it in my article…it was just too good to pass up.
We have a couple of real winners here folks – an abusive sperm donor, and an idiot for an incubator. Thomas Campo, 43, has been accused of abusing his triplets – 2 boys and a girl. They were only 5 months old when Campo was arrested, and he had allegedly been abusing them since they were born. One of the boys had at least five fractured ribs on the right side, and three on the left. Medical experts have said that the injuries are more consistent with shaking than with squeezing. Another of the babies, also a boy, had bilateral skull fractures and also some rib fractures. The baby girl had injuries to an ear, and a bite mark on her abdomen. So I guess the guy thought biting the baby was a good parenting technique. I would be willing to bet that he abused the kids because they would not stop crying – like most other idiots claim. Well….how’d that work out for you Campo? Oh, right, you’re in jail. So now you don’t have to listen to your babies cry anymore. I guess that worked out all right for you then….not so much for the babies, though.
Now for the gestation device, Zoya Campo. This quote is directly from the article folks: ” “Zoya Campo told me that her husband has a history of anger and acts out towards the babies,” Caggiano wrote.” OK. So the woman knew her bedmate had anger issues, and that he took out these issues on the babies, and yet, she did…….nothing?!? WHAT!?! Now you know where the stupid comes into the title, folks. I think she should be charged with abuse as well, since she knowingly permitted it. She’s as bad as he is. The bite mark on the little girls abdomen occurred in April, right after the babies had come home from the hospital. She was three weeks old. This tells me a couple of things folks. The babies, being triplets, were probably born early, and SMALL. That would be my guess as to why they were three weeks old before being allowed to go home. So in addition to being defenseless, and fragile, these babies ALREADY had another reason to be treated with special care – they were preemies. Instead they were abused by Thomas, and betrayed by Zoya. She said that she had confronted him several times about his abuse of the babies, and he had apologized to her each time. Oh. OK. That makes everything alright, then. Maybe in her world, but certainly not in mine.
Another thing – and this is purely speculation on my part, based on the age of the sperm donor. If he is 43, then I would imagine that she is probably in her late 30′s to early 40′s. She had triplets. This suggests to me that there might have been some sort of medical help to conceive, such as fertility drugs, or in-vitro. Now….if she wanted a child so badly that she was willing to undergo medical treatment in order to conceive, and then willing to go through the entire pregnancy (which I would think was probably difficult, and even dangerous, with triplets), you would think that this idiot would have taken better care of her babies – protected them more.
A final note, then I’ll go away and leave you all to discuss this: Zoya also said that her husband would take the babies (one at a time) into another room and shut the door, not allowing her in. The reason he gave her was that he needed to learn how to comfort them himself, without her help. But she could hear the babies in distress while he was alone with them. I’m sorry folks – but that freakin’ door would have come off the hinges, if it had been my child in there. You don’t take one of my babies ANYWHERE, and then deny me access to them. Not without killing me first.
Oh, and Thomas has been indicted on 37 counts stemming from the abuse of his babies. The mother, as far as I can tell, has not been charged with anything. They should charge her with gross stupidity, for starters, and work their way up.
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June 18th, 2010 at 3:58 am
Castration and hysterectomy anyone?
January 31st, 2010 at 11:33 pm
I think they should be hanged to death, just left to die,, a slow suffering death,, that goes for all the people that hurt children and animals!!!!!!! HANG THEM ALL!!!. If I was the President That would be the first law I would make!!!!!
December 19th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
omg….that poor little boy……thanks for posting the link miss bob and welcome to the site!!
December 19th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
omg…that poor little boy!!!! thanks for posting the link miss bob and welcome to the site.
December 19th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
omg….that poor little boy!!! thanks for posting the link and welcome to the site miss bob.
December 19th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
I’m not that familiar with your site and don’t know how to submit items, but thought you would be interested in the following. The URL follows.
Mother guilty of boiling toddler
WRITTEN BY BETH PLEMING
TUESDAY, 15 DECEMBER 2009 21:10
Woman given three-year jail sentence for crime
A 22-year-old mother will spend at least three years in prison for placing her 2-year-old son in a pot of boiling water and burning his foot with a cigarette.
http://themountaineer.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5204:mother-guilty-of-boiling-toddler&catid=25:the-project&Itemid=27
December 17th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Right on April!
December 17th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Avalon, I am truly soory that you are living that nightmare. this is why I think it shoud be open season on douche bags. As far as laws and victimes rights, I would think that would be different from state to state. I know that Texas is one of the states with the strictest Domestice Violence laws (and one ofthe states with the most DV to boot). It sounds like you must be in one of those states. I don;t think in CA (where I live) you would have been arested for breaking the door down unless you were a renter or living in a house your EX owned. In any case, that would have been destruction of property and not violence in front of children. I can’t say it enough – DOCUMENT! DOCUMENT! DOOCUMENT! Write down conversations with your ex, Write down threats. Keep track of times and dates. Take pictures. Tepe record anything and everything you can where he is concerned. Call the cops every time he poses a threat. You may have to call every day, but who cares! That is what they are there for. I suggest calling a battered women’s hotline for further tips.
December 17th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Avalon, Sorry about your experience. Hope all goes well for you and your baby.
As far as proof? Cameras are great for that,a pic tells a thousand words.
Tell us more if you have more specifics about your story.
Deanna, Thanks.
December 17th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
I agree with most of your blog. I come here because I agree and I think it is great that someone points out to the world what a**holes these parents are.
I just have to say, grabbing your kids and running or killing, or trying to kill the jerk who abuses them can actually be worse.
My EX-husband, said something really weird, took my new born into a room and locked the door. I broke it down and grabbed my son. He called the police, I got arrested for breaking the door (violence in front of children) and he was left alone with my helpless child until I got out of jail and went to court to get the automatic restraining order dropped.
By that time, my son’s head was completely flat and bald from being left in his carseat and he had diaper rash so bad that he was bleeding.
The law requires that I fork him over every week even though he told his probation officer (for an offence after we broke up) that he would MURDER him someday. Did the courts help? No. Did his PO do anything? No. His right as a father is more important than his threats to my child.
Is he better off that I spent time in jail and he was alone with his dad and I now have a record? No.
my Ex had no record or history when we got together. I tried to leave at the first verbal signs of abuse and my son ended up being hurt worse.
The laws and courts are no help.
The cop who arrested me was fired one week later for being a jerk on the job. It is confidential, so I don’t know details.
I do get really mad at women who stay especially during abuse this extreme but really, we don’t know what she did or didn’t do, but she did take her children to the hospital.
Bite marks? Broken bones? Wow, you would think she could have done something about that, but do you know how hard it is to prove, your word over his, that he is the only person in the whole world that could have done that? That is what you have to prove to keep him away. Even with proof, it only halts visits for a few weeks while he does a class or two, that is why these stories keep cropping up in the news. I can only hope these children are now safe.
December 17th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
I’m with you on this one.
December 15th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
JohnQ, even tho I appreciate the last comment you made about our verbal concerns, you didn’t know that you might encounter a woman who has spent her adulthood raising preemies, etc., did you? You may want to get your facts straighter next time…..babies are inherently known to have stronger bones, that’s what makes a BREAKING A BABY’S BONES so heinous…..
December 15th, 2009 at 9:41 am
JohnQ….i don’t know if that’s a proven fact or not (preemies are prone to broken bones)….i’ve cared for many, many preemie babies…extremely fragile, irritable, over the edge preemies. alot of them on breathing and heart monitors….some that won’t eat, some that can’t seem to get enough to eat. all of them either cocaine, heroine,opiate, and/or alcohol babies….babies who could not sleep more than 25-45 minutes without going into tremors or stomach cramping or just plain owies inside their tiny little heads. while i’ve always handled them with extreme care, i’ve never yet had one of them end up with a broken bone. they’ve all pulled through. they’ve gained in weight and height.
the only way i can see a preemie, unless under unusual circumstances, receiving a broken bone is through rough handling. especially when it’s THREE babies from one home.
i’m not saying it couldn’t happen in rare cases, just saying highly unlikely.
a preemie as any baby, can thrive with the simple receipt of food, warmth, hygiene, and love.
oh yeah, and don’t bite them….it tends to make them cry.
December 15th, 2009 at 2:28 am
April, et al please take Kembro`s post and stick in your back pocket as another opinion. She made some good points.
If the papers are true then the guy is a scumbag as you have mentioned.
There are some solid facts reported in the articles that the kids were abused (bite marks broken ribs).
BUT the papers don`t always report accurately. They sensationalize to get readers, and you add your blog sensationalization (is that a Colbert word) on top of the newspaper distillation. Being devils advocate , the kids were preeemies and prone to broken bones. Bites thats another story. He`s probably guilty.
Some other stories on here are worthy of extreme motherhood, and I respect the general opinions on here about protecting children .. thats certainly the priority.
Ap
December 14th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
…and Luke 17:2.
December 14th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Dear Ohwell, sorry for the ID’ing mixup. My fault. But, I do not agree with your post. Your are stating that all we do is lash out in anger, and you were very condescending to all of us. Clearly we lash out in anger because of highly sensitive nature of these stories. And we have a right to. You also seemed to be siding with Kembral, which I did re-read, and to even begin to agree with Kembral, was really beyond the pale. There just is no denying that what Mr. Campo did or Ms. Zoya not protecting her children could possibly be defensible.
I too am a Christian, which means that every one of us must take responsibility for our actions, even tho the Lord forgives us. I too believe in compassion and mercy, but what about compassion and mercy for those TINY BABIES? That’s where the good-heartness begins, too many scriptures on that to mention. I would start with being he baby defenders and let the Court’s render what is Caeser’s unto Caeser’s when it comes to any legal defense of these 2 deplorable “parents”. You gave Kembral an inch, and he/she is the kind of person who would take a mile. Christian or not Christian, I wouldn’t have done that. He/She is not our primary concern, but rather the babies, and all babies and children who are the one in need of COMPASSION. NOT the defender of a baby biter, squeezer, torturer.
The legal points were not “lost” on me in reading Kembral’s comments, but rather they were pointless rhetoric simply because no matter how articulate, or well-presented, the thing to understand is what those babies endured. They don’t need to understand legalities, explanations, nor anything else, they were just as innocent as could be and were “at the mercy” of these 2 malovelent, savage, brutal caretakers. Let God defend them, I will not.
Ex. 14:14.
December 14th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Thanks April. I fucked up and submitted my comment before I could finish, but since you took the words right out of my mouth I don’t need to.
December 14th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Gwen is baaaaaaack!!!
December 14th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Hey – I never called you and abuser. I think Kembrall is a moron. Defending this woman for not protecting her children. What a horse’s ass. If you want to blow sunshine up Kembrall’s ass, you go right ahead. Just as you are entitled to your opinion, we are entitled to ours. the minute you try to come across liek you are better than anyone here, you are in for a verbal ass beating. You know nothing about anyone here – Who in the Hell are you to judge??
December 14th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Owell! is just me, my name happens to be Julie. I don’t know Kembral or Me & don’t agree with everything those people said. we just happend to have somewhat similar views…though not entirely. Why would WE be turned into law enforcement agencies? Because we’re abusive? I don’t know about those other 2 you mentioned, but I am not abusive in anyway.
I do not believe in an eye for an eye. I do NOT condone abuse. I do NOT believe in killing or huring anyone no matter what they did. I know that is an unpopular view, especially among people on this blog. But, I am a Christian and I believe in compassion. I think people should pay for their crimes, YES. But, I do NOT believe in killing people. I believe that people pay for their crimes living with it & knowing what they did to another human being.
I didn’t defend anything, if you read MY comments you would know that. I was simply stating to Kembral that it was no use in trying to explain anything to anone here who happened to have a differing view because if you DO you’re automatically an abuser. It’s really very unfortunate that there cannot be intelligent discourse & dialogueon this blog.
December 14th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
I am a Christian and I believe in an eye for an eye. You cause pain, you deserve pain. You take a life, you deserve to lose your life. Just because I believe that doesn’t mean I’m a bad Christian or lack compassion.
You also insinuate that we
December 14th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Kembral/Me/Ohwell, and if you were the two babies and could read and understand what other in this article are saying in THEIR behalf, I am sure they would be more than happy to jump into our arms and turn you and the likes of you into law enforecement any chance they got.
December 14th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Kembral/Me/Ohwell, I am “assuming” you are one in the same. Angel wrote this story almost in a word-for-word, fact-for-fact, delineation of what both of the 2 articles stated, with a couple of opinions tossed in.
The mere fact that you would defend Ms. Zoya “who noticed a bite mark on April 27th” BUT did not report it, as well as she HAD TO HAVE noticed all of the other visible injuries but said nothing is NOT an assumption. It is a fact. They were, according to medical records there and visible, so unless Ms. Zoya has been declared legally blind, she saw them all. And she heard them all too, according to her own words (after getting caught) “he would take them into another room and their crying would get louder” hmmmm, even a 4 year old would pick-up on THAT. She was a “accessory to the fact to Mr. Campo’s abuses, a large, adult man with a need to vent his a distorted anger out on a couple of newborn babies, that were what, 5, 6 or 7 lbs. at most? completely helpless they were.
He is a baby-torturer, as per medical records, out on bail or not.
Ms. Zoya is as guilty as he is for allowing it to happen, since she stated his “propensity” for abnormal anger.
All “3″ of you are probably them, or related to them, otherwise you would not be defending them or their actions, and have ZERO compassion for the tiny, battered ones.
December 14th, 2009 at 10:05 am
To the ladies defending the mom here….I do understand how dangerous it can be to leave an abusive man. BUT….when your children are being harmed, what do you have left to fear? C’mon!
December 13th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
April, you’re a gem!!! XO!
December 14th, 2009 at 12:02 am
Depends on who ou ask… But then again – I’m not one who need approval from other people to boost my self worth.
December 13th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Fun and games all wraped up in a tidy package of psychobabble. *yawn*I say give them back the kids. Husband and wife will collectively kill one or all of them and we can all sit here and shrug out shoulders because, let’s face it, who cares if these fuckheads beat their babies. Not me.
December 13th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
**opps. I meant abuser, not victim in above post.
December 13th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
@Kembral Jensen….there is no use in pointing anything out to most of the folks on this site. No matter how concise you may be (they consider it “boring” if you approach anything from a legal standpoint or if you’re capable of any kind of critical thinking rhetoric) If you differ from most of their views, they will say you’re defending the victim. Even if you repetedly say you DO NOT condone the acts…that what the person did is awful…they don’t understand that there is a possibilty that a human being could diagree with HOW something is presented and NOT condone abusive acts. It’s too complicated for them. It’s pointless really. They don’t want diverse opinions, they want to fully engage in lashing out in anger, you know…because they REALLY HATE abuse…and lashing out and calling people names is not abusive. Hmm….talk about breaking the abuse cycle!!!! I say leave them alone to their safe little internet world where they can continue the abuse (albeit in a much more socially acceptable way) and feel good about what they do with the hateful support of each other!!
December 11th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
I don’t know her situation. But, I have experience in situations where the man was so volatile that the woman was afraid to leave. MANY sick men follow through on their threats to kill the mother and children. So, there’s part of me that can understand that she might have felt trapped. And, if you think the husband can’t find the wife if she runs and hides, you would be wrong much of the time. The mistake is that the wife tells someone (her mother, her sister, her friend) where she’s going and the husband frightens the information out of the secret-keeper. And, we know from several stories on this blog that men like to take out the children in front of the wife before killing her and then removing themselves from the gene pool. So, I dunno… I don’t know how beaten down the Mrs was (or if that’s the situation at all). But, we DO know from the 37 charges against him that the father was hurting the kids. So, he’s at the top of my list for azzhole removal.
Oh… I’m serious when I say men find the women. A wife was shot by her estranged husband outside the bldg where I work. She had left the state to get away from him, but came back after a while to “secretly” visit some family. Somehow the estranged husband not only found out she was back in town, but also that she was staying in the hotel across from my office. He shot her as she left the hotel.
December 11th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
She couldn’t live without the tiny dick that took up space in her worthless twat. Let’s face it. She was not a good mother or she would have chosen those precious children over Mr. 2 Pump Chump here…..
December 11th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Wow…I don’t understand the people defending the mother. Unless he had her chained up to a bed or a chair 24/7 there is no excuse to stand by and watch someone hurt your children. She should have left when there was a bite mark on her 3 week old! With the extent of the injuries to the boys, can you just imagine the pain they were in? She should have had MANY chances to seek help…don’t infants typically see their doctor every month for the first year??? Being premies these well baby checks would be VITAL. If the mother didn’t take them to the doctor she should be charged with medical neglect as well…and don’t tell me she doesn’t have the resources to provide them with medical care…a woman with triplet infants would qualify for Medical Assistance…
December 11th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
I am not a practically perfect parent. I AM perfect! And, I’m very happy that the world revolves around me. Come, minions, bask in my awesomeness. Uh, just don’t ask my husband or kids to verify my perfectness… they lie!
We do make comments on this blog site that are our opinion. But, since this is a blog and not a piece of investigative journalism, I don’t see how it is a barrier to the Campo’s. If Mrs. Campo has tried her best, then that will come out and she’ll get the kids and things will be all right. But, to have 37 counts of abuse against him…. Mr. Campo obviously has issues. And, if it is found that he not only beat the children but also did “unspeakable” things to them behind the closed door, then I stand by MY opinion that he is wasting oxygen.
December 11th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Kembral – FYI, I was in a DV situation. I was beaten within an inch of my life. Right before I left, I found out the fuckwad had gang affiliation. I was threatened. I was told that they would find me and kill me if I threw his sorry ass in jail. Guess what I did??? Go ahead…. Guess!! I CALL THE FUCKING COPS!!!! I WENT TO COURT!!! I looked at the muther fucker that beat me and his dim witted gang banger friends and I testified against him. I sat up on a stand with only my mother there to support me (while he had 50 mean ass friends staring me down) and I told the judge and jury how he raped, bit, hit, and ultimately tried to kill me. So hang the “it’s hard to leave” bit. I am not going to buy it. Trust me when I tell you that the man I was with was WAY more dangerous!! I LEFT!!!!
December 11th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Well said, Kembral. I know this mother and the inside story as well… I wasn’t even going to dignify this blog and its comments with a response, but am glad you did. And since now others are attacking you, just wanted to let you know that you are not alone in your thoughts. I hope to never, ever be involved with something so terrible as this case… and have these uneducated, unrelated, UNINVOLVED vultures attacking me and my decisions.
December 11th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
I’m glad this “woman” (can I really call her that) has friends. I, for one, would NEVER associate with the likes of her or her pathetic excuse for a huband. Let me address you on the “uneducated” comment. I have a BS degree. I didn’t pursue my Masters because I chose a profession that it would be reasonable. By law, I have to take classes to maintain mt license (for the work that I do). I lieu of taking classes for my continuing education, I give the classes to other professions in my region. It’s a win win, you see. I get to educate people and I get continuing education credit to maintain my license. Got it? Care to share YOUR education background? No, better yet – Tell me Zoya’s. I want to know what sort of uneducated, ghetto ass, low life stands by while her man beats up her INFANT children. Enlighten me. Please. It’s Friday at 9 o’clock in the morning. It’s hours before Happy Hour and I need a good laugh.
December 11th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
in order to stay “uninvolved with a case like this” you only have to do 2 very simple things:
1. DON’T ABUSE YOUR CHILDREN
2. DON’T ALLOW ABUSE TO YOUR CHILDREN
You and Kembral need to take a step back and really assess the situation. LOOK AT WHAT YOU ARE DEFENDING!!!!!
December 11th, 2009 at 1:02 am
Holy wall of text, and what is the deal with people holding a blog to the same journalistic standrads they expect from a newspaper? Blogs are opinion.
And to speak negatively about belittling women by calling them gestation devices, and then turn around and say they should stay in abusive relationships to act as a shield? WTF! I mean you might as well say that she has to let herself be beaten, since that is her lot in life, which is far more belittling in my opinion.
We only call women who don’t do much to defend their children, or actively hurt them, or have way more children than they can handle gestation devices. I mean, haven’t they figured out what causes that (which is what my dad said when I told him he was going to have another grandson, but he was actually kidding, he has a warped sense of humor, it’s where I get my sense of humor), and there are ways to keep yourself from having more kids than you can handle. You want good journalism (or journalism period) go to cnn.com, not a blog.
December 11th, 2009 at 12:48 am
damn. who is that masked man? are you her lawyer?
December 11th, 2009 at 12:34 am
Kembral, you damn moron, there are resources for women who are being abused. Resources for wmen who fear for their children’s lives. Zoya did NOTHING to protect her children – she did not act as a shield. Fuck you for defending these two pieces of garbage. By the way – this is a fucking blog, not a news site. Maybe you should follow the sources links Angel provided and curse the media sources that posted the daman story. As for this mob and their “opinions”, that is what this site is in place for and we will continue posting in any manner we see fit until the owner of the blog choses to shut it down, ban us from commenting, or we decide that this is no longer our passion.
Now – pound sand. You are boring at best. On the plus side, I should sleep well after reading that long, drawn out, boring post about what a wonderful mother Zoya is. Now go tell it to the jury. They are the one’s that you need to convince.
December 11th, 2009 at 8:08 am
April…I know there are resources for women. I encourage you to call your local domestic violence crisis center and ask THEM exactly how “easy” it would be to leave an abusive relationship. I pray for you, that you never have to find out.
Karen, thanks for thinking so. No, I am not.
And Jenn, no place in my response did I say that women should stay to act as a shield. I only explained why MANY women DO stay. I work every day to try to remove barriers that prevent women and children from SAFELY leaving. They need you, too. Please contact your local DV crisis center to find out how you can help.
December 11th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Kembral wrote:
“no place in my response did I say that women should stay to act as a shield.”
Yes you did. Quote from earlier diatribe: “IN FACT, the Safest thing that Mrs. Campo may have done for her children was stay in an abusive relationship so that she could use herself as a shield between an angry man and innocent, vulnerable children.”
As for my “assuming” things – nowhere in my article did I use that word. You used that word more times in your first post than I have used it on this blog in the entire time I have been writing here – and let me tell you, that’s a looooong time. I never posted my opinions as fact; I used words such as ‘speculation’, ‘I would think’, and the phrase you so helpfully pointed out, ‘willing to bet’. All of those were indications that the statements I was making were my opinions, which is – as others have already pointed out to you – what people do on a blog. If you don’t like it, go to the top right-hand corner of your window, and click the little red X. No one here will miss you, other than maybe the Campos. I never claimed anything was fact, if it was only my opinion.
You however, have done that very thing, by saying the only fact that I got right was the age, and the injuries. Perhaps you should invest in an online reading comprehension course before your next uninformed diatribe. Other facts are 1)he has been charged with 37 counts relating to child abuse (unless they’ve added more since I wrote that; maybe I should go back and check, just to keep my readers up to date), 2)Zoya knew her husband had anger issues, and 3) she also knew he acted out toward the babies. She said so herself. Are you saying she is a liar? Gee, that doesn’t look very good for her, either.
No, I am not a perfect parent, but I do have six children, and not a single one of them has been abused. Nor will they ever. I would kill anyone who tried.
And yes, we all have anger issues to some extent. My anger is usually directed at those who abuse their children, though, and not at the ones who are appalled by people voicing their opinions about abusive jerks, as your anger seems to be…..and my anger is not directed at my children, either. I could care less about your ‘assumptions’ about me. You are an idiot.
Kembral also wrote: “Be angry that you are one of the many barriers for this family, sitting in self-righteous judgment Assuming what she should have or you would have done, instead of encouraging your readers to find ways to help.”
I am not one of the barriers here. If you had bothered to read anything on this blog other than this story, you would probably have found out that many of the people who write and post here, myself included, do copious amounts of work in helping battered women and children. We have foster parents, people who adopt abused children, people who volunteer at battered women’s shelters, people who provide for orphans and other wards of the state by donating time or resources to local agencies, and people who help out the children in their communities who may not be ‘abused enough’ to have DCS take them from their parents, but who are neglected to the point that they need others to provide food, clothing, and even shelter upon occasion. We also have people on here who lobby their legislators in Congress for new laws, and the repeal of the old dangerous ones which hinder a woman’s ability to protect her children.
Also, I don’t have to ‘assume’ what I would have done had I been in her shoes. I would have been in jail for killing the SOB who hurt my babies. Now, there’s a FACT that you can take straight to the bank, lady.
I am angry at the ineffective laws and the ineffective court system, but I am more angry at the ineffective (and dangerous) parents who make such laws necessary in the first place. I will continue to voice my OPINION here, because that is my right. If even one person reads one of these stories on here, and says, “Gee, I don’t ever want to have anything like that written about me,” and it makes them think before striking their own child (or someone else’s), then I have made an impact. I have kept a child safe.
As Jenn pointed out, not all women are gestation devices. We reserve that title for the women who have babies and then refuse to take proper care of them.
I’m very sorry if Zoya is in an abusive relationship and she feels she has no way out, but that does not alleviate her obligation to protect her babies. I would kill to protect my babies. And I would be willing to die FOR them.
Go put that in your crack pipe and smoke it, Dearheart.
December 11th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Right on point, my dear.
December 10th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
It saddens me to know that mob mentality will allow people to pass judgment and sentence before having all of the facts. Your article is so rife with suppositions, fallacies, and incomplete information that it is tabloid-level writing at its worst. It would almost be laughable, if it wasn’t so potentially dangerous to the persons named.
Before all of you computer-side warriors decide to call for my drawing and quartering, let me assure you—what happened to these children is absolutely disgusting, and I look forward to Justice prevailing. I have my own opinions about the father named in your story, but will not share them with you because they are exactly that—My Opinions.
But you share your opinions as if they are fact. You snidely remark about these “real winners.” I would like to know, exactly, what is your relationship to these people that you can make this sarcastic remark? The next statement is about the only factual information I can find in your expose. Mr. Campo’s age, he has been Accused (Not Convicted…yet), and you do have an approximately accurate run-down of the children’s injuries. Good for you, you can borrow from other articles of other journalists who also do not have all the facts. And “willing to bet” is not a statement of fact; it is an Assumption. Your diatribe is rife with them.
You Assume that Mr. Campo is in jail; he has, in fact, been out on bail for some time. And before you express all kinds of self-righteous indignation about that, understand that the purpose of bail is to ensure someone’s presence at trial. It is not a pre-punishment before conviction. If Mr. Campo has been deemed by the courts to not be a danger to society or a flight-risk, he has the right to be out of jail if he can honor his bail conditions. I don’t necessarily like that concept for this case, either. You might presume that he is a danger to his children, and maybe his wife, but the bail conditions will have addressed that issue. You cannot Assume he is a danger to society.
Mrs. Campo is, in fact, not a gestation device. Shame on you for belittling any woman in this manner. It is ignorant utterances such as this that permits society to continue to relegate all women—including (presumably) yourself—to the status of breeding machines, “barefoot and pregnant.” She is a human being, as is Mr. Campo. You may Assume that they have made really poor decisions, really bad choices in their lives; but you, madam, do not have all the facts to make that a “beyond reasonable doubt” conviction. All you have are incomplete news articles. You do not have even 1/10th of the information necessary to pass judgment on either of these people. Although I do often see the justice system fail, I will still choose to let Justice run its course. You are not the face of Justice. Thank God for small favors.
As for Mrs. Campo’s quote, you Assume you know the context of the statement, you Assume you know what “history of anger” means, and you Assume you know what “acts out towards the babies” means. I would presume, from the tone and irrationality of your article that you also have a history of anger and acting out. Should any bedmate you have Assume that you will be an unfit mother? I doubt you think so. I am “willing to bet” that you Assume you are a “Mary Poppins” parent—“Practically Perfect in Every Way.” In fact, you Assume you are so practically perfect, you have the gift of determining that the triplets were preemies! Wow! No one else would ever be able to guess that without you pointing it out to us. You later ramble on to gift us with your Assumptive prowess deciding that the Campos required medical intervention in order to conceive their children. All I can say is, don’t quit your day job, because your level of journalistic fact-finding is more premature than the preemies about whom you write.
You also state that Zoya “did nothing.” Again, your powers of Assumption astound me. I did not get—at all—from reading the myriad articles that she did nothing. She did confront him. She took her child to the hospital to get checked out. We did not get anything resembling a full-fledged interview with Mrs. Campo; she may have done many more things that have not yet come out. Admittedly, those may be the only things she did. Even if we Assume that those were the “only” things she did, just because you think you would have done more does not make your Assumed actions more valid (or safe) than hers. Whether or not you agree, and Assuming that Mr. Campo is responsible for his children’s injuries, I believe that Mrs. Campo did take the right action because her children are still alive. You may have attempted different action, Ms. Practically Perfect Parent, but because I presume from your article that you do not think before you act, chances are you would have made a choice that would have put your children’s lives and your own at risk. Leaving an abusive relationship is a Process, not an event, because of the danger inherent in it.
You Assume that Mrs. Campo knew that her children were being hurt. You Assume she did nothing. You Assume that she had all of the supports in place (financial, social, cultural, institutional, educational, medical, material, etc.) to successfully leave someone you Assume was abusive. You Assume that if Mrs. Campo had gone to court saying, “My husband is hurting me and my children,” that any judge would smile serenely down at her and say, “OK, Mrs. Campo. We will remove your husband from his home and give you sole custody of the children.” I have witnessed the court system for over a decade, multiple times per week, and have YET to see that outcome. In fact, if Mrs. Campo had gone to any New Hampshire court for a restraining order, she would have had less than a 25% chance of walking away with one. If Mrs. Campo had filed for divorce, and if Mr. Campo is a perpetrator of family violence, research has shown that Mr. Campo more likely than not would have walked away with primary or sole custody (now known as parental rights and responsibilities in New Hampshire) of those children. And if that had been the outcome, Mrs. Campo would have had no recourse to keep her children safe. IN FACT, the Safest thing that Mrs. Campo may have done for her children was stay in an abusive relationship so that she could use herself as a shield between an angry man and innocent, vulnerable children.
My mother used to tell me, “To Assume makes an Ass out of U and Me.” Guess she got that right.
I Assume, “Angel” and “Bridget,” that you will continue to splash your inappropriate, dangerous Assumptions regarding the Campo family across the web. Here is what I know. Having met Mrs. Campo, I would have no difficulty whatsoever entrusting any child of mine to her care. Indeed, I would prefer her courageous, humble “stupidity” to your practical perfection any day.
In the future, if you want to be angry, be angry at the person who has been convicted of the crime. I, for one, sincerely hope that someone will be held accountable. Be angry at the toothless statutes and case law in the State of New Hampshire that protect abusers’ rights to have access to their children over children’s right to be safe. Be angry that it is not enough for child protection to show the courts that there were multiple bruises on a helpless infant, but they also have to prove that there is harm to the child in being bruised. Be angry that there are far more barriers keeping abused women and children in unsafe homes then ways and means to get them out safely.
Be angry that you are one of the many barriers for this family, sitting in self-righteous judgment Assuming what she should have or you would have done, instead of encouraging your readers to find ways to help.
December 10th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
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January 26th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Kembral Jensen, I don’t usually post comments anywhere but yours made me finally want to. And I apologize for being more than a month behind everyone else. You come to this person’s blog and stir things up with people who are passionate about what happened to these 3 poor babies that were so horribly abused by what is supposed to be their protector. You seem to forget that they ARE entitled, like or not, to THEIR own opinions. You try to act like you are better than everyone here……being that you are so wonderful why don’t you go create your own blog??? That way you can write as much as you want in defense of these two, you could even weed out any posts you didn’t want and only show the ones agreeing with you. Think of it, your own private Utopia! Oh and I do want to point out this one little thing to you, your words not mine remember:
My mother used to tell me, “To Assume makes an Ass out of U and Me.” Guess she got that right. I Assume, “Angel” and “Bridget,” that you will continue to splash your inappropriate, dangerous Assumptions regarding the Campo family across the web.
Hmmm, even though I agree with this “mob mentality”…doesn’t that make U an ass?
January 26th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
And this is he part when I welcome you to the site and ask you to please come sit next to me.
December 10th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
I’m flattered you liked my title and when I said she was stupid, I hadn’t even read the article that told of him leaving the room and shutting the door. She has to be sub-par on the brain cells to have allowed that and not left after the first questionable incident. When my (non-preemie) son was a newborn, there was a nurse in the hospital I took an immediate dislike to, she just struck me as the “angel of death” type you hear about, can’t say why, but whatever. I’m not an assertive person at all(or never had been)and when this nurse told me she had to take my son to the nursery for some lame reason, I told her in a voice I barely recognized that she wasn’t taking him anywhere. My mommy switch had been triggered and I don’t think this cow had one to start with. She’s as bad as he is. So many loving people want kids and can’t have them (I was one for 7 years). Find a loving family(ies) and let these 2 rot. I hate all the losers that star on this site but I REALLY hate the newborn beaters, can you tell?
December 10th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Um – wow….. He should be castrated with a rusty spoon. Can I have the babies??? I promise to love them, hug them, kiss them, keep them safe and warm, and shoot these two muther fuckers if they come anywhere near them.
December 11th, 2009 at 9:40 am
I totally agree April!!
December 10th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Oh yeah, that door would be of the hinges if anyone went into another room with my baby and i heard the baby cry in pain. It would be like the Kool Aid Man, but instead of “Oh Yeah” it would be “What’s going on?”. Thank goodness our interior doors are hollow core ones, I’d be able to get through faster. Both my husband and I check up when our niece is with our son and he starts crying, and it’s usually pretty instant, and involves a lot of questions, and cuddling of him. I cannot wrap my head around letting somone take a preemie into a room like that, and hearing them cry out like that and not doing anything about it. Hopefully the little boys don’t have any permanent damage from being shaken, but with the skull fractures, I think at least one might not have been so lucky
Sounds like maybe she wanted babies, and he didn’t, but he gave in, and now he’s taking it out on the defenseless little ones.
December 10th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Ok, anyone wanna disagree that daddy dearest should be shot? Birth mom didn’t participate in the abuse, but she deserves jail time. Why would you go to the trouble of carrying triplets only to try to kill them after they were born? And, NO… NO NO NO should the SOB who is known to physically beat the babies be allowed to take them into a room alone with a locked door and tell the mother to stay out.
December 10th, 2009 at 11:10 am
I definitely consider myself a liberal (politically speaking) but I’m all for forced sterilization for cows like this. A mother that doesn’t have a strong instinct to keep her babies safe is a useless human being, and certainly should not be allowed to reproduce again.