Abuse death in Newton, Kan.

Trench Reynolds

Mother of Newton toddler who died is charged:

20-year-old Katheryn Nycole Dale and her 26-year-old penis, Chad Carr, have been arrested in Newton, KS for the abuse death of her son, 19-month-old Vincent Hill.

Among them were “terrible cuts” on the inside of the boy’s mouth, fingernails that had been ripped out, a leg that was twisted in an unnatural position, a fractured collar bone, and an eye swollen shut, Yoder said. Evidence shows that the injuries “didn’t just start recently,” he said.

To make matters worse the egg donor and the penis had only been together for 4 months. How does one go into this form of abuse in a span of four months. Or were they both child abusers before that?

Thanks to Cara for the tip.

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  • Guest

    yet people made garage sale money off of this, didn’t they, Cara?

  • http://badbreeders.net/ April
  • aj

    To Answer your quistion Nycole dale was not always a child better… I can say this first hand because I know her personally. She was a good friend of mine for 6 years. When I hurd what had happend i was hanging with some friends and when I hurd her and her baby daddy ricky hills name (who have known for 9 years) I was SHOCKED. I dont know this “Chad Carr” guy but he sounds like someone who shoud get rapped over and over in jail, or killed…. She has 2 kids… When we were younger she never ever said anything about wanting kids she was always just into partying, skiping school, boys and drugs… i have 2 kids of my own and I would have to say that she has changed… And it FUCKIN DISCUSTS ME…

    • http://badbreeders.net/ April

      Thanks for posting.  I have a question… Is English your second language?  Just wondering.

      • Beanmagnet

        “How is babby formed?”

        • http://badbreeders.net/ April

          I dunno.  My tard translator is on the blink.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    The whore got 3 years. Look at her cry. Stupid cunt.

    http://www.kansas.com/2010/10/01/1520032/mom-sentenced-to-3-years-in-sons.html

  • Donna

    Have you actually given the money from the garage sale to the memorial fund? Some of us are hearing otherwise.

  • On Vincent's Side

    Are you freaking kidding me??? If your child is ill and not eating, its because HE ISN'T HUNGRY!! So, she is going to force feed him? (and this maybe a dumb point, but was she using a real fork or a plastic toddler one? I may be the minority, but until my child was 2, they were using plastic child ones)

    And no, a toy box lid did not fall on his fingers- however, 2 of his fingers did get caught in a door- at the father's house, 1 week prior. But I didn't think that they would fall out that quickly. Seems to me that forensics would be able to tell if they were ripped out or if they had died.

    Personally, I think you can make a case in her favor for anything if you want, but I agree with Trench, this is all way to convenient.

    You know, I liked Nycole when I first met her, but now, no way, not one bit. And as far as the statement that you wrote above:

    “Everyone is so quick to jump to conclusions before the facts are in that if found innocent, she will still have everyone glaring at her with that “you killed your baby” look in their eyes. I though this was the USofA where you are innocent until PROVEN guilty. not merely accused”

    Well, all I can say is you your right, people are going to look at her that way IF she is proven innocent, but really can you blame us? SHE chose to move in with a KNOWN abuser. And they knew it and I personally think even the father HAD to of known SOMETHING was up.

  • On Vincent's Side

    I am sorry, I went back and reread what I wrote. I DID NOT MEAN to say that you were partially to blame, I meant to edit that out. Sorry. What I meant was that Nycole's child life is partially to blame. She never had a stable home and THAT was partially to blame.
    I am very sorry to have said that. You are no more to blame than I am. It was just written wrong:)

  • On Vincent's side.

    WHoa Krisapin,
    I am probably just as close to the situation as you are. If you HELPED raise her for 5 years, then you are partially to blame for this entire situation as well. Nycole was in and out of foster homes because her “mom” was on drugs, then she would get clean and then lose Nycole again because of drugs. This went on for years. It is also my understanding that Nycole's own mom was in and out of Foster care as well. You say that you know for a fact that she would never hurt her child, yet SHE SIGNED THE STATEMENT saying she did!!! She did it, she did.

    Oh and if she “fled” to Texas to live with her Grandmother to get away from Vincent's father because he was abusing her- THEN WHY DID SHE LEAVE VINCENT WITH HIM FOR THOSE 2 WEEKS?? hmmm…. see a pattern here?
    I have no doubt the father was verbally abusive, but I promise, she gave as good as she got. Truth is, looking back, NEITHER the father nor the mother should have had those kids during that time period and beyond.

    I know both parents- I am not friends, I am family, and I am sorry, but your facts are one sided and are only facts in YOUR eyes. There is a lot more to the other side that you must not know about.

    We do both agree on something though, she “trusted” someone she shouldn't have- but then again, she DID know about Chad's Past. Infact, she and Vincent's father LIVED with Chad when Chad and his first wife separated. (or maybe his girlfriend- whoever had his kids). SO you can't tell me she didn't know just a LITTLE bit about his past.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April
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  • madison

    i would love nothing more than to see this bitch raped with a blowtorch(sorry people) and then shot execution style. letting this happen to a baby. what a disgusting excuse for a mother. dont even get me started on the d bag. :x

  • madison

    i would love nothing more than to see this bitch raped with a blowtorch(sorry people) and then shot execution style. letting this happen to a baby. what a disgusting excuse for a mother. dont even get me started on the d bag. :x

  • Ihavekidstoo

    All these people loved him and no one fucking KNEW he was being abused by his mother’s new penis? This went on for MONTHS and no one KNEW? The birth father didn’t KNOW? He never saw signs of abuse? Is that because he never SAW the baby?

    My heart breaks for this child but I have NO FUCKING SYMPATHY whatsoever for his so-called “family.” People who really loved him would have seen him often enough in four months to know he was being horribly abused. They would have intervened and made the abuse stop.

    I am sick to death of the excuses people make for their lack of action when a baby dies like this. It’s like those gutless wonders who watched that nutjob stomp his toddler to death and did nothing but stand there, wring their hands and call the cops. Everyone who did nothing, who never bothered to visit this child to see how he was doing when they knew there was a new person in his life is tinged with his blood. Ultimately, the penis and breeder killed him, but everyone who did nothing to ensure this baby was safe ENABLED his killers. I hope they suffer every remaining day of their lives with the guilt of their neglect.

    • cristina

      Ihavekidstoo; I definetely agree with you, now this so call family are crying and saying how much they loved him blah, blah, blah. sorry no sympathy from me either, just to give an example; my Dd had a cold a couple of weeks ago, she refused to use a tissue to wipe her nose, instead she decided to use her shirt sleeve, so that left a round red mark on her left cheek. My mom came to visit for the weekend, and as soon as she look at Dd, she asked my what was wrong? did her grandchild hurt herself? or what happened? I told my mom to calm down and I explained what happened, at the moment I thought she was overreacting a little bit, but I am glad to have a grandma who cares about my child, and I hope it will always be that way.

  • Ihavekidstoo

    All these people loved him and no one fucking KNEW he was being abused by his mother’s new penis? This went on for MONTHS and no one KNEW? The birth father didn’t KNOW? He never saw signs of abuse? Is that because he never SAW the baby?

    My heart breaks for this child but I have NO FUCKING SYMPATHY whatsoever for his so-called “family.” People who really loved him would have seen him often enough in four months to know he was being horribly abused. They would have intervened and made the abuse stop.

    I am sick to death of the excuses people make for their lack of action when a baby dies like this. It’s like those gutless wonders who watched that nutjob stomp his toddler to death and did nothing but stand there, wring their hands and call the cops. Everyone who did nothing, who never bothered to visit this child to see how he was doing when they knew there was a new person in his life is tinged with his blood. Ultimately, the penis and breeder killed him, but everyone who did nothing to ensure this baby was safe ENABLED his killers. I hope they suffer every remaining day of their lives with the guilt of their neglect.

    • cristina

      Ihavekidstoo; I definetely agree with you, now this so call family are crying and saying how much they loved him blah, blah, blah. sorry no sympathy from me either, just to give an example; my Dd had a cold a couple of weeks ago, she refused to use a tissue to wipe her nose, instead she decided to use her shirt sleeve, so that left a round red mark on her left cheek. My mom came to visit for the weekend, and as soon as she look at Dd, she asked my what was wrong? did her grandchild hurt herself? or what happened? I told my mom to calm down and I explained what happened, at the moment I thought she was overreacting a little bit, but I am glad to have a grandma who cares about my child, and I hope it will always be that way.

  • Deena

    Found the comment below on one of the other stories about Vincent… how wonderful would it be if all the states adpoted the same practice she mentions.

    Posted by: Grandmother Location: Wichita KS on Apr 4, 2010 at 02:35 AM

    Many states have adopted an automatic death penalty for killing a child 12 or under. They have no defense and are robbed of a right to their natural life. Kansas needs to pass this law NOW to protect children.

  • Deena

    Found the comment below on one of the other stories about Vincent… how wonderful would it be if all the states adpoted the same practice she mentions.

    Posted by: Grandmother Location: Wichita KS on Apr 4, 2010 at 02:35 AM

    Many states have adopted an automatic death penalty for killing a child 12 or under. They have no defense and are robbed of a right to their natural life. Kansas needs to pass this law NOW to protect children.

  • Jessica

    :cry: “i seen pictures of vince from 6 days before his death and his eye looked like he was punched, blood vessels in the eyeballe were popped so his whites were bloodshot red and he looked so pale no more smiles just looked like someone stole his sole” :cry: You have broken my heart, socal2wichita. I am so sorry for this little angel and those who loved and lost him.

  • Jessica

    :cry: “i seen pictures of vince from 6 days before his death and his eye looked like he was punched, blood vessels in the eyeballe were popped so his whites were bloodshot red and he looked so pale no more smiles just looked like someone stole his sole” :cry: You have broken my heart, socal2wichita. I am so sorry for this little angel and those who loved and lost him.

  • http://parentsbehavingbadly socal2wichita

    well everyone…..im just a guy who is a friend of the family of nicoles, i met vincent 1 time and held him when he was 7 months old and i remember the day and i am very sad over all this. i helped the family move all of nicoles and her kids belongings out of the apartment yesterday and i went up to the bathroom and picked up one of Vincents lil rubber duckys and kept it. i love him and i dont really know him but ok. while there the real fathers mother stopped over to retrieve a handmade chest of drawers and a handmade neat little footlocker that vincents real daddy and grandfather maDE FOR HIM. i want you to know that i believe with all my heart that after going to the funeral that his real daddy though young and foolish doesent have a mean bone in his body he is so hurting over his babies death words cant explain the greif he feels but i was at the memorial. as for nicole at first i believed she was probably innocent but i dont know anymore not after going to the grandmothers house to deliver the dresser and seeing pictures of vincent let me tell you he was loved by that family i cant believe how many kids from the dads side he got to be around and all the family photos he was in and the smiles vincent had but to the point of not knowing anymore i seen pictures of vince from 6 days before his death and his eye looked like he was punched, blood vessels in the eyeballe were popped so his whites were bloodshot red and he looked so pale no more smiles just looked like someone stole his sole and if only he coiuld talk he would of told now this guy chadd carr well never met the scumbag but hes a pretty big boy over 6’3 and at least 230 and could you imagine hes obviously the worst form of evil and the only way i could think of nicole being somewhat innocent is if he came into her life put a shitload of fear into her i mean you never know i have some strange feeling this goes a lot deeper than we all know. but i just cant get the baby out of my head i hurt just knowing about this i wish it was like that movie with denzel washington where you couls go back in time and stop crimes from happening, this case would be the perfect one to use it on to save vinces life!!

    SAD

    • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

      I am sorry for and saddened by your loss. At least we know Vincent isn’t in any more pain. I trust that there is a spot in Hell reserved for these assholes and I hope they get there quickly.

    • Deena

      Wow… 6’3 230 lbs, this a real tough guy beating up on a baby. I am so sorry for yoru loss and thank you for letting us all know he was loved by dad and dad’s family and he did experience happiness at dad’s. Knowing that every momment of his short life was not miserable is nice to hear. I hope all these losers rot in hell!

    • Jolene

      I too am sorry that you have to feel this pain, you were not a close party to the family and didnt see them to notice any form of abuse so I understand your pain. I had a friend that my daughter babysat her son for a summer while she worked, when she got a new boyfriend she stopped coming around, and when I would call to say I was coming to visit she would never answer the ph and if I stopped by unanounced no one would come to the door, then one day I got a ph call at work telling me the baby was taken out on a stretcher at 7:30 in the morning unresponsive, he died 3 days later, beat to death, the egg donor is in jail and the penis was sent back to his country, but I feel guilty because I feel had I entruded harder, or found a way to see them maybe I would have seen signs of abuse and stopped it, but she literaly just dropped me as a friend for this penis, we lost a 3yr old boy that year, and that was 2 years ago. I blaim myself sometimes, my daughter had to go to grief counseling because she blaimed herself for not checking in on the boy, my daughter was only 14. We have moved on, but we have his picture in our wallets and it will remain there.

  • socal2wichita

    well everyone…..im just a guy who is a friend of the family of nicoles, i met vincent 1 time and held him when he was 7 months old and i remember the day and i am very sad over all this. i helped the family move all of nicoles and her kids belongings out of the apartment yesterday and i went up to the bathroom and picked up one of Vincents lil rubber duckys and kept it. i love him and i dont really know him but ok. while there the real fathers mother stopped over to retrieve a handmade chest of drawers and a handmade neat little footlocker that vincents real daddy and grandfather maDE FOR HIM. i want you to know that i believe with all my heart that after going to the funeral that his real daddy though young and foolish doesent have a mean bone in his body he is so hurting over his babies death words cant explain the greif he feels but i was at the memorial. as for nicole at first i believed she was probably innocent but i dont know anymore not after going to the grandmothers house to deliver the dresser and seeing pictures of vincent let me tell you he was loved by that family i cant believe how many kids from the dads side he got to be around and all the family photos he was in and the smiles vincent had but to the point of not knowing anymore i seen pictures of vince from 6 days before his death and his eye looked like he was punched, blood vessels in the eyeballe were popped so his whites were bloodshot red and he looked so pale no more smiles just looked like someone stole his sole and if only he coiuld talk he would of told now this guy chadd carr well never met the scumbag but hes a pretty big boy over 6’3 and at least 230 and could you imagine hes obviously the worst form of evil and the only way i could think of nicole being somewhat innocent is if he came into her life put a shitload of fear into her i mean you never know i have some strange feeling this goes a lot deeper than we all know. but i just cant get the baby out of my head i hurt just knowing about this i wish it was like that movie with denzel washington where you couls go back in time and stop crimes from happening, this case would be the perfect one to use it on to save vinces life!!

    SAD

    • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

      I am sorry for and saddened by your loss. At least we know Vincent isn’t in any more pain. I trust that there is a spot in Hell reserved for these assholes and I hope they get there quickly.

    • Deena

      Wow… 6’3 230 lbs, this a real tough guy beating up on a baby. I am so sorry for yoru loss and thank you for letting us all know he was loved by dad and dad’s family and he did experience happiness at dad’s. Knowing that every momment of his short life was not miserable is nice to hear. I hope all these losers rot in hell!

    • Jolene

      I too am sorry that you have to feel this pain, you were not a close party to the family and didnt see them to notice any form of abuse so I understand your pain. I had a friend that my daughter babysat her son for a summer while she worked, when she got a new boyfriend she stopped coming around, and when I would call to say I was coming to visit she would never answer the ph and if I stopped by unanounced no one would come to the door, then one day I got a ph call at work telling me the baby was taken out on a stretcher at 7:30 in the morning unresponsive, he died 3 days later, beat to death, the egg donor is in jail and the penis was sent back to his country, but I feel guilty because I feel had I entruded harder, or found a way to see them maybe I would have seen signs of abuse and stopped it, but she literaly just dropped me as a friend for this penis, we lost a 3yr old boy that year, and that was 2 years ago. I blaim myself sometimes, my daughter had to go to grief counseling because she blaimed herself for not checking in on the boy, my daughter was only 14. We have moved on, but we have his picture in our wallets and it will remain there.

  • Lori

    She cared more about a cork for her hole than she did about her baby. Sounds like someone didn’t teach her about priorities in life.

    • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

      Here’s hoping that some of the inmates will cork her hole and teach her about life.

      *crossed fingers*

  • Lori

    She cared more about a cork for her hole than she did about her baby. Sounds like someone didn’t teach her about priorities in life.

    • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

      Here’s hoping that some of the inmates will cork her hole and teach her about life.

      *crossed fingers*

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    20 years old, mother of 2, one baby dead, living with a kiddie porn perv that beat her baby to death. So she’s not a meth head? Crack then? She smokes crack? She must! This is not the norm for mothers – no matter how old they are. There is something fucking wrong with this whore, that she sat back and let some kiddie perv beat the shit out of her baby.

    • Deena

      Right the FUCK on!!! and krisapin is all over defending her. It appears us PBB readers aren’t the only ones who seem to think something stinks in KS

      • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

        Dirty girl!

        • Deena

          Aren’t you so proud of me???

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    20 years old, mother of 2, one baby dead, living with a kiddie porn perv that beat her baby to death. So she’s not a meth head? Crack then? She smokes crack? She must! This is not the norm for mothers – no matter how old they are. There is something fucking wrong with this whore, that she sat back and let some kiddie perv beat the shit out of her baby.

    • Deena

      Right the FUCK on!!! and krisapin is all over defending her. It appears us PBB readers aren’t the only ones who seem to think something stinks in KS

      • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

        Dirty girl!

        • Deena

          Aren’t you so proud of me???

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Here’s a pic of the baby. What a sweet little man. I hope that he knew a bit of happiness before he was robbed of his life.

    http://www.kake.com/news/headlines/89831862.html?storySection=comments

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Here’s a pic of the baby. What a sweet little man. I hope that he knew a bit of happiness before he was robbed of his life.

    http://www.kake.com/news/headlines/89831862.html?storySection=comments

  • Krisapin

    you’d look like a meth user too if you had very little sleep & hardly ate anything because you were grieving. think how you’d look. on that note, I’m leaving this thread alone. anyone who wants to continue this can meet me at the Harvey County Courthouse at 3 PM on Thursday and we can discuss this like civilized human beings.

    • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

      You’re soooooo right. I’d look just like a meth user if I had just been busted for murdering my child. What a shame no one looks him enough to be angry about his murder. Well, no on except for us strangers. How sad that perfect strangers love him more than his own mother. You have fun in court. I’d pay money to see that bitch swingin’ with a rope around her neck. Oh… The thought of it makes me smile. :smile:

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Did anyone stop to think that maybe little Vincent was molested by the kiddie porn perv? MAybe that’s why he was so brutaly murdered. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

  • Krisapin

    you’d look like a meth user too if you had very little sleep & hardly ate anything because you were grieving. think how you’d look. on that note, I’m leaving this thread alone. anyone who wants to continue this can meet me at the Harvey County Courthouse at 3 PM on Thursday and we can discuss this like civilized human beings.

    • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

      You’re soooooo right. I’d look just like a meth user if I had just been busted for murdering my child. What a shame no one looks him enough to be angry about his murder. Well, no on except for us strangers. How sad that perfect strangers love him more than his own mother. You have fun in court. I’d pay money to see that bitch swingin’ with a rope around her neck. Oh… The thought of it makes me smile. :smile:

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Did anyone stop to think that maybe little Vincent was molested by the kiddie porn perv? MAybe that’s why he was so brutaly murdered. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April
  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April
  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Here’s another pic…. Yep. I’m going with meth user.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    Here’s another pic…. Yep. I’m going with meth user.

  • http://www.myspace.com/aprilamber April

    There’s a pic of Mommy Dearest here:

    http://www.kansas.com/2010/04/04/1254420/harvey-co-sheriff-if-a-child-is.html

    She looks likea meth head.

    • Deena

      April… I do believe you are correct! :mrgreen:

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