5 Murders and a Suicide in NC

NC woman shoots five kids in head

Fifth person dies from Greensboro murder-suicide

The selfish actions of this mother are unthinkable. Normally, I would use extremely harsh words for someone like this, but I am going to refrain from doing so. After reading many articles about this case, I came across one in which the killer’s mother, Frances, finally spoke to the media. She has heard people call her daughter a “no-good mother” and said that her daughter was not a no-good mother, and also asked that people not judge her daughter. The judgement will be given whether anyone likes it or not. I will, however, save this mother the pain of reading the hurtful things I could say in writing this story. She has suffered enough. I am not going to make her have to suffer any further with the names and insults I could throw in. Now, on to the details.

On November 20, 2011, Mary Ann Holder,36, who was involved in a love triangle, would shoot five children in the head, and then turn the gun onto herself inside her parked Ford Explorer shortly after 10 AM that morning.

It all started with a love triangle with Randall Lamb, 40. The affair had been ongoing for the last four years, and it came to a bitter end on November 20, when she arranged to meet him in a college parking lot. At this meeting she shot Lamb in the shoulder, and injury from which he has recovered. Before she shot him, Lamb, Holder, and Lamb’s wife had been trading accusations of harassment and stalking according to court documents. Lamb’s wife had also recently threatened to file a lawsuit against Holder for alienating her husbands affection.

Holder then drove off to go meet her 14-year-old son, Zachery Smith, to pick him up from a sleep over. What Holder didn’t realize, is Lamb called his wife after the altercation, and his wife would go on to call police. A half hour after these calls were made a police officer discovered Holder’s black SUV. Holder was found dead inside with a gunshot to the head, and Zachery critically wounded in the back seat. There were also two hand guns found in the vehicle. One of which was in Holder’s lap.

Officers would then move on to Holder’s home in the Pleasant Garden community and found her son, 17-year old Robert Dylan Smith, dead. They would also find Makayla Leigh Woods, 15, Richard Suttles (Holder’s nephew who was living with her), 17, and Hannaleigh Suttles(Richard’s sister and Holder’s niece who was living with her also), 8 all critically injured. Hannahleigh would die on Monday from her injuries. Richard and Makayla were rushed to a hospital and placed on life support, both were removed from life support after clinging to their lives. The only silver lining here is 15 lives have been saved by organ donations made from several of the deceased victims. 12 lives came from two of the victims alone. All five victims were laid to rest yesterday.

Police are continuing to investigate despite two letters written by Holder taking responsibility for the shootings and apologizing for all the pain she has caused. They say a clear motive has not been determined.

There are several more details about the affair that I have left out. The affair and what was going on between Holder, Lamb, and Lamb’s wife doesn’t matter. What truly maters here is five young lives were ended, and no one truly knows why Holder took their lives. May all of them rest in peace.

 

 

  • 336

    I personally knew the family and I would just like to say, Mary Ann Holder was a good mother. All of these people on here are passing judgement but yet- none of you know the full story. There was so much going on that the news hasn’t broadcasted. You would of had to spend time with them at church, the ball field, had class together, or had dinner at their house to truly know the family. She loved her kids, and it would take something completely evil to make her do what she did. There is no way in this world she would ever harm her family and Makayla in her right mind. Our town is small and close knit, you can’t go anywhere without seeing something in rememberance of the whole group, not just the kids but Mary Ann as well. It’s such a shame that the only person everyone gets to see when her name is brought up is this side. Yeah, we miss and remember Hannah’s laugh, Dylan and Zack’s personality, Ricky’s witt, and Makayla’s smile, but we also remember Mary Ann. For what she truly was, a good mother.

  • bama

    This was awful no matter where the blame lies. Little Hanna didn’t die in vain however. Her heart is now beating in a little girl in Alabama. I’m close friends with the family whom received Hanna’s heart. None of those children should have died, but because one of them did a little girl who has been fighting to live since birth now has a chance at life.

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  • Anonymous

    http://www.myfox8.com/news/wghp-sheriff-mary-ann-holder-acted-alone-in-pleasant-garden-shootings-20120110,0,5088100.story

    To the Whore’s supporters: I think I hear the fat lady singing, opera style.

    “Fuuuuck youuuuu!  Fuuuuck youuuuu!”

  • Brig79

    The 2 question that you are asking are the same ones that everyone eles is waiting on also, since this just happened on the 20th of nov so everything is still being reviewed by the sheriff’s department.as for the notes the family has not even been released to the family, no one but the department have seen them. There is no need for popcorn, as if all you guys are reading is what is reported in the news I have nothing to stand on so cont to believe what you want. But there is so much more to this then what the news has reported.
    You guys are going to think what ever you like, I simply letting you know this is not everything. For the Lambs I hope they have nothing to do with it they have 2 boys and there lives have for ever been changed, word around time is there oldest boy may be missing. It’s a very sad case all around but I do think that new evidence is going to come out and things are going to be looked at, the crazy thing is no one will probably read about that stuff because it won’t be dirty enough.

    • Anonymous

      “The 2 question that you are asking are the same ones that everyone eles is waiting on also, since this just happened on the 20th of nov so everything is still being reviewed by the sheriff’s department.”

      If you’re waiting for the GSR results to exonerate the Whore, you’re kidding yourself.  That would have been the first thing they checked and it doesn’t take long to get the results.  I made a joke about setting off fireworks in November, but in reality investigators can easily distinguish between the traces left by firearms and pyrotechnics.  If the Whore didn’t have GSR in appropriate locations, she would have been exonerated within the first few days.  If she does have GSR in appropriate places – as seems most likely at this point – then she discharged a weapon.  Period.

      “as for the notes the family has not even been released to the family, no one but the department have seen them.”

      The police know what they’re doing when it comes to comparing handwriting samples.  I trust the experts a lot more than I trust the biased amateur opinions of the Whore’s family members, especially those who seem to think they’re Dick Tracy crossed with Sherlock Holmes.

      “There is no need for popcorn, as if all you guys are reading is what is reported in the news I have nothing to stand on so cont to believe what you want. But there is so much more to this then what the news has reported.”

      Blaming the media is the last refuge of the guilty.  This is true from the trailer trash Bad Breeder caught beating her kids, all the way up to the rich and powerful politician caught cheating on his wife.  It’s pretty convenient to blame the media for your bad behavior (or in this case, the Whore’s bad behavior) but blaming the media doesn’t change or excuse that behavior one iota.

      (snipped some irrelevant innuendo and insinuations about the Lambs)

      “It’s a very sad case all around but I do think that new evidence is going to come out and things are going to be looked at, the crazy thing is no one will probably read about that stuff because it won’t be dirty enough.”

      If it turns out the Lambs managed to frame the Whore for five murders and a suicide and fool the police for weeks, I guarantee it will be front page news and probably the subject of a TV movie on at least three different networks.  However, unless Randall Lamb’s real name is Jason Bourne, it probably didn’t happen that way.  An immoral woman’s bad behavior caught up with her and she snapped.  If all she’d done was have an affair with a married man, I wouldn’t even waste my time talking about her.  And if she’d just taken her own life when her whorish ways caught up with her, I’d probably pity her.  But she chose to drag five children down into the grave with her, so all I can say is FUCK HER.

      • Suzee

        I freaking love you!

  • Deb

    Yes!!!!!  The_Shadow_Knows…………………remind me to NEVER piss you off. Now I am goning to make popcorn and sit back and watch………..I want to see if  Brig79 will answer you back.

  • Brig79

    Read 3 post down.
    About 10 min before the police found her she talked to her brother and she was in a food mood talking about thanksgiving where he also heard zack her son Spaulding alive a well. 5 min before she talks to her daughter where she is short and vague .
    In my knowledge of crime scenes normally when things like a mass killing like this it has been really a messy scene. This one was a very clean in and out killing, all 5 kids shot in the head no fight no passion. Even if she hated them which I don’t believe she did, she still would have some passion involved.
    And these are just some of the things that don’t add up..you make up your own mind

    • Anonymous

      So according to your “knowledge of crime scenes” INTRUDERS typically make LESS of a mess than a culprit who actually LIVES in the home?  Were you actually ON the Anthony jury by any chance?

      Your posts are typical conspiracy theorist bullshit: focus on trivial and irrelevant points that “don’t add up” while ignoring the mass of relevant evidence.  It won’t take a “couple months or a year” to settle this because there are only three real questions that need to be answered:

      1. Did the Whore have GSR on her hands, or did she not?  GSR can’t be faked to frame someone and there is no innocent explanation for it being on her hands, unless someone wants to claim she had just set off a whole bunch of fireworks in November.  I know the police in this case are Tarheels and probably not very bright, but I’m quite confident the first thing they did was check her hands for GSR.  If the tests were negative, she wouldn’t even be a suspect.

      2. Did the Whore write the notes claiming responsibility for the crimes, or did she not?  Again, I’m pretty sure the police did handwriting comparisons by now and forged notes would have been a neon sign indicating a frame job.

      3. Did the Whore give the Lambs a check for $10,000 the previous night, or did she not?  If the Lambs were successfully blackmailing her, there would be NO MOTIVE WHATSOEVER for them to kill her and frame her for a bunch of murders.  On the other hand, being blackmailed would provide the Whore with an explicable motive, in terms of the family annihilator model, for killing the children and herself.  It also makes it very unlikely the Lambs were harassing her – would you really pay ten grand to people who were harassing you? – which would make her a liar as well as a whore and a killer.

      If the answers to these questions – especially the first two – are yes, then the Whore is guilty.  It doesn’t matter how bizarre Randall Lamb was acting, or how many women accuse him of being a philanderer and a jerk.  We already knew Randall Lamb was a philanderer and a jerk.  But we also already knew Mary Ann Holder was his whore and, apparently, a cold hearted psychopath and killer.

      If it’s ultimately proven that Mary Ann Holder didn’t have GSR on her hands and didn’t write the notes, then I’ll apologize for calling her a murderer (though not for calling her a whore, which she was) and I’ll also eat my hat with A-1 steak sauce.  Will you do the same when and if your bullshit conspiracy theories are shown to be just that?

  • Brig79

    Read below first to see begainning post
    Shot.
    BUT what happened was A, while on his was home he past a fire department and a ER.
    It could happen but not really something happens everyday, Mary Ann holder was a left handed person but was killed on the right side of the head, could happen but there is a bigger chance that it didn’t
    Since this case has come out 2 other woman have come forward and said they also were harassed by randy lamb and his wife saying they were going to file paper work to take them to court.
    Moments before the police found her

  • Brig79

    I personally do not know this mother, but I wanted to add to your comments by letting you guys know that you can judge this story by what you read in this article and others like it. But be on the look out in the next couple months or a year or so because there soooooo much more to this story then is right here.
    If you were shot twice would you
    A. Call your wife and ask what to do
    B. say o it’s no big deal and finish out your day and deal with it when the doctors office was open on mon morning
    C go straight to the ER and call 911 and report the event.
    Naturlly like me you would go to the er and call 911 and report being

    • Deena

      As we have all said before and will say yet again when and if there is proof she was not the killer the post will be removed until then, any armchair detective’s theories about what may or may not have happened means squat.
      As far as two other women coming forward about harassment… irrelevant, neither one of them are dead or their families.  So he cheats and they harass people it doesn’t make them killers, especially killers of 5 innocent children.
      Deena

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  • Angies4kids

    Truth be told, I am not interested in putting this murder on anyone who is innocent, but when the evidence that is being reported states she did it then what do you think people are going to believe??  This isn’t made up, this is what is being reported in every article written by the press according to what the police have told them.  No one is trying to crucify an innocent person…we ONLY care about these 5 kids who were all brutally murdered! 
    As I said earlier, if she is innocent, I pray for the family’s sake they are able to prove it.  God knows what happened and her judgement will be in front of One much more important than me or anyone else you are on here arguing with.   

  • Anonymous

    The first thing the police probably did was check the Whore’s hands for GSR.  If she was not the shooter, there would have been no GSR.  Since she remained a suspect, obviously they found GSR.  The second thing they probably did was compare the suicide notes to known exemplar’s of the Whore’s handwriting.  Since she remained a suspect, obviously the handwriting matched.  That’s pretty much the whole ballgame right there.  The members of the Whore’s family who are defending her in the face of the evidence must be pitifully stupid.  They should put themselves on a waiting list in case another Simpson or Anthony jury is ever needed.

    Really, this is not that mysterious of a case.  The Whore appears to be a classic family annihilator, with one unusual twist: she’s a female.  One detail not mentioned in this story (understandably, since it concentrated on the innocent victims rather than the Whore) is that the Whore had given Lamb’s wife a check for ten grand the previous night in order to stave off a lawsuit.  My guess is that check was 100% Goodyear rubber, and the Whore was on the verge of financial ruin.  The classic motive for a family annihilator is the need to avoid the shame of financial disaster, usually caused by some wrongdoing on the part of the would-be annihilator (embezzlement, gambling, etc.)  In this somewhat unusual case, the wrongdoing was adultery and the financial ruin was an impending lawsuit for alienation of affection.  At that point typical family annihilator thinking kicked in: the Whore couldn’t live with the shame (hard to believe she had any) and she decided that the children couldn’t possibly go on without wonderful her.  So she took their lives as a twisted act of “mercy” before turning the gun on herself.  It’s sick, but it’s a well-recognized syndrome.  95% of family annihilators are male, but I guess the Whore was in that other 5% – probably the only exceptional thing about her.

    • Deena

      I swear… I can’t say it enough… I fucking love you!

      Deena

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  • Deb

    Suzee- stop poking the the troll and maybe it will slither back where it came from. But if you do want to keep poking it……I’ll bring the chips and dip!!!
     Alas, I have a feeling that if/when this woman is found guility we will never hear from jar-Jar7362 admitting he/she may have been wrong. But I do know that if she is found innocent the correction will be made and an apology issued. Because we are growed up that way……. :-)

  • Bmbshellmedia

    This woman is a murderer. She is not a martyr. She killed five children. That is the legacy she chose for herself.  I simply do not understand how anybody (family or not) can defend her. She lifted a gun to the heads of five children and pulled the trigger. That’s all I need to know. That’s all anybody needs to know. Only God can judge her? Are you serious? I can and will judge her as the murderer she proved herself to be.  And you’re right, jrg7362, I didn’t know Mary Ann Holder. But I question if anybody really did. Mary Ann Holder killed five children. SHE killed them. I know it. The police know it. And deep down inside you know it. 

    • http://badbreeders.net/ Malevolent April

      Best response EVER! Loving you….

  • Jrg7362

    OK SO HOW DOES IT GO FROM THE FIRST DAY OF MARY ANN HOLDER SHOT 5 PEOPLE THEN TURNED THE GUN ON HERSELF TO SUSPECTED?? DUH! IM NO ROCKET SCIENTIST BUT ID SAY THAT MEANS THEY HAVE REASONABLE DOUBT NOW! THEY WONT GO FROM SHE DID IT TO SUSPECTED! IF SHE DID IT THEY WOULD OF LEFT IT LIKE THAT INSTEAD OF CHANGING IT! SO WHO REALLY LOOKS LIKE THE MORON??

    • Suzee

      Again, as stated before, everyone here is aware of the ongoing investigation. You are repeating what has already been said. You are just putting a twist on it to make it seem like she may not have done it. I read every article put out there on this before I wrote it up. She is the “suspected” killer because they have reason to believe she DID do it, not because they have any doubt. You are the moron here. 

      • Deena

        I”m guessing they “suspect” she did it since she left notes saying she did!  I hate people who refuse to accept the truth about family members.
        Deena

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        Suzee wrote, in response to Jrg7362 (unregistered): Again, as stated before, everyone here is aware of the ongoing investigation. You are repeating what has already been said. You are just putting a twist on it to make it seem like she may not have done it. I read every article put out there on this before I wrote it up. She is the “suspected” killer because they have reason to believe she DID do it, not because they have any doubt. You are the moron here. Link to comment
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    • Deena

      When and if and that’s a big “if” she is found to not be guilty bring proof, until then shut it!  Instead of running around the internet googling your family members name perhaps your time would be better spent memorializing the 5 children that were MURDERED.  Just sayin’!
      Deena

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    • http://badbreeders.net/ Malevolent April

      You are certainly not a rocket scientist. I’m not even sure you’re capable of holding down a job with your name on your shirt. But the verbiage would probably depend on the source article you read and how much liability that particular company is willing to take on. Most love using the words “suspected”, “allegedly”, “supposed”, etc to avoid any nasty lawsuits.
      Now that I have educated you, will you please fuck off?

    • Your_Pal_Nancy

      This is slightly delayed, but in response to “so who really looks like the moron??”…..you do, fuck face.

      • Deena

        DOH!  LOL

        Deena

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        Your_Pal_Nancy wrote, in response to Jrg7362 (unregistered): This is slightly delayed, but in response to “so who really looks like the moron??”…..you do, fuck face. Link to comment
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    • Madison

      still you.

  • Jrg7362

    DEFEND HER YES! THEN I GUESS I AM A PIECE OF SHIT! I AM HER FAMILY! AND I KNOW HER WAY BETTER THAN U! SHE TRIED TO BREAK OFF  THE AFFAIR THANK YOU! THEY WERE STILL HARRASSING HER! CATCH UP ON YOUR READING SWEETY…. THE LATEST ARTICLE READS “SUSPECTED” OF KILLING! THAT MEANS THEY HAVE EVIDENCE TO SHOW SHE MAY NOT OF DONE IT!  WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE 3 DOES MATTER BECAUSE IT RESULTED IN THIS TRAGEDY! THEM STILL HARRASSING HER AFTER SHE GAVE THEM $10,000 THE DAY B4! DID U SEE WHERE HE WAS ALSO HAD GUNS! 4 TO BE EXACT! AND THAT A CLIP AND SEVERAL BULLETS WERE MISSING FROM IT! U MY DEAR DONT HAVE ANY PROOF THAT SHE DID DO IT! SO REALLY U CAN SHUT THE FUCK UP! SOQUICK TO JUDGE! SO FUCK WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! GET YOUR FACTS IN ORDER!!!

    • Your_Pal_Nancy

      No, suspected means they have reason to believe she DID do it. It’s one of those safe things to say before an investigation is over, like “allegedly”. If she didn’t do it, this is one elaborate ruse. It seems like you’re accusing the guy and his wife of doing all of this. Easy on the caps lock, you look like a moron.

    • Suzee

      I don’t need to catch up on any reading. And no, what was going on between the three doesn’t matter. It may have been what caused her to be selfish, but I don’t care about the petty bullshit with the affair. Again, the only thing that matters in this is the five young lives that were ended. The affair is a moot point in a murder of five children. I stated that in my write up. If people want to get into the issues surrounding the affair, they can use the source links. So, again, shut the fuck up and shove your “she’s innocent” crock up your ass until you have solid fucking proof. 

    • Deena

      In my opinion… the fact that your only concern is to defend her makes you a piece of shit, not because your her family.  I am sure she has several family members that are wonderful, I bet her sons,  her niece and nephew and the innocent girl visiting were pretty wonderful.  It’s funny I notice you don’t mention the kids that she killed it’s all about HER, HER, HER!  Wanna know what… we don’t give a flying rat’s turd about her!
      We don’t care if she slept with every freakin married man in the state, it’s irrelevant!  What is relevant is the fact that 5, count them 5 children you know the ones you fail to mention, died and the only person taking credit for those murders is good ole’ Mary Ann.
      So bite it!

      Deena

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      • http://badbreeders.net/ Malevolent April

        Not only did the whore kill the children, she did it BECAUSE of the married man that didn’t want her. She’s a selfish whore murderer. Nothing more. Nothing less.

        • Deena

          But what about her April??? What about her?? Have you forgotten about her???
          Deena

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          Malevolent April wrote, in response to Deena: Not only did the whore kill the children, she did it BECAUSE of the married man that didn’t want her. She’s a selfish whore murderer. Nothing more. Nothing less. User’s profile
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          • http://badbreeders.net/ Malevolent April

            Oh, I know. Poor poor skank. Was in love. Was a victim. Was in no way wrong in her action. And who are we to judge. Just a bunch of kichen canaries. Sitting around twittering about shit we know nothing about. Meh.

    • http://badbreeders.net/ Malevolent April

      They don’t have evidence that she didn’t do it. That’s just the media covering their ass. She’s a “suspect” until the case is closed.

      Oh, and please feel free to go fuck yourself. Family or not, you’re a complete moron. Typing in caps is not making you (or her) look and better. Just more evidence of your dumb fuckery.

    • Madison

      omg what dont you get? she killed five kids for no fucking reason!!!!! and yes you are a child murdering whore defender. way to go.   and it doesnt fucking matter what went on with three adults. the kids didnt ask to be involved. asshole.

  • Jrg7362

    she was a single woman that cud do whatever she pleases!! hes more wrong than her bc hes the 1 that was married! u shud really think about how stupid ur opion is b4 u post it!!!

    • Deena

      And you should really try posting in English and not text lingo and you’d be taken a little more seriously.  You sound like some kid using all this text lingo my 11-year-old niece uses.

      Deena

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    • http://badbreeders.net/ Malevolent April

      u shud think about how stoopid u look before u comment with illiterate rantings.

      Fuck. My 5th grader could type a better response. This shit is making my ass twitch. You fucking idiot.

      • Deena

        I know, right!

        Deena

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        Malevolent April wrote, in response to Jrg7362 (unregistered): u shud think about how stoopid u look before u comment with illiterate rantings.
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  • Jrg7362

    ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE HER!!!

    • Deena

      So can we!  And we will so shut the fuck up!

      Deena

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    • http://badbreeders.net/ Malevolent April

      Nope. We can judge her. There’s no law against it. Oh, and I’m pretty sure God doesn’t like women who fuck married men and kill innocent children.

      • Deena

        Right on!

        Deena

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        Malevolent April wrote, in response to Jrg7362 (unregistered): Nope. We can judge her. There’s no law against it. Oh, and I’m pretty sure God doesn’t like women who fuck married men and kill innocent children. User’s profile
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  • Jrg7362

    TO CALL HER A WHORE THAT  IS JUST WRONG!!! IT TAKES TWO IN ANY RELATIONSHIP! DO U KNW WHO PURSUED WHO?? DIDNT THINK SO! SO U CNT CALL HER A WHORE! WHERE U THERE FOR THE CRIME?? DID U SEE HER SHOOT THEM KIDS! DIDNT THINK SO! SO UR OPION DNT REALLY FCKN COUNT! 

    • Suzee

      It doesn’t matter who pursued who in this whole fucking situation. Those five children’s faces are what matter, not the fucking whore who decided to sleep with a married man (even if he pursued her) or the man who completely ignored his wedding vows by sleeping with someone other than his wife. Their childish actions after the affair was over don’t matter either. What matters is the five names and faces of those children whose lives got snuffed the fuck out. If you have no actual proof to offer then shut the fuck up. 

      • http://badbreeders.net/ Malevolent April

        Never mind that she KNEW he was married. She is just as bad as him IMHO.

        • Anonymous

          Exactly!  And it takes two to tango!

          • http://badbreeders.net/ Malevolent April

            Right? But to go a step further… He changed his mind. He didn’t want her. Like most married men who fuck other women, he chose his WIFE!! This cunt wasn’t having it. She had a point to make. And she fucking made it loud and clear. That sad thing is that she took the coward way out and now she will NEVER be held responsible for her actions. On the plus side – one less selfish whore poluting the planet.

          • Deena

            Now, Now ladies… she is left handed and was shot in the right side (according to our visiting idiot) I am sure it was a conspiracy of the lover and his wife to set her up.  She’s innocent I tell you!  On second thought…. no fucking way!
            Deena

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            Malevolent April wrote, in response to Alexandra1973: Right? But to go a step further… He changed his mind. He didn’t want her. Like most married men who fuck other women, he chose his WIFE!! This cunt wasn’t having it. She had a point to make. And she fucking made it loud and clear. That sad thing is that she took the coward way out and now she will NEVER be held responsible for her actions. On the plus side – one less selfish whore poluting the planet. User’s profile
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          • Anonymous

            Well, I believe in a heaven and a hell.  She’ll be held accountable, just not on the mortal plane.

        • Suzee

          Completely agree.

    • Deena

      WHORE, WHORE, WHORE, WHORE, WHORE!!!!!  HAHAHAHAHA… how you like that.  Stick a dick in asshole!

      Deena

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    • http://badbreeders.net/ Malevolent April

      I think whore isn’t a storng enough word to call and evil cunt who murders children for her own selfish purpose. I hope the stupid skank rots in Hell. As a matter of fact, you a welcome to join her.

      • Deena

        lol

        Deena

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        Malevolent April wrote, in response to Jrg7362 (unregistered): I think whore isn’t a storng enough word to call and evil cunt who murders children for her own selfish purpose. I hope the stupid skank rots in Hell. As a matter of fact, you a welcome to join her. User’s profile
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  • Anonymous

    She has heard people call her daughter a “no-good mother”…

    That can happen when you have an affair with at least two children at home, and even more so when you kill both of them because you’re a dick drunk whore.  But hey, she wasn’t ONLY a no-good mother.  She was also a lousy excuse for an aunt and a thoroughly worthless human being.  I hope that makes her mother, the one who raised this murdering tramp, feel a little better.

  • Angies4kids

    How devestating!  Those poor kids!  I hope they were asleep or unaware of what was happening to them! 

    In response to JRG7362…If that is the case, I pray they are able to get to the facts and clear her name.  If not, well….she will receive her judgement.

    • Jrg7362

      THE MATTER IS STILL UNDER INVESTIGATION! THEY HAVE A REASON TO BELIEVE SHE DI NOT SHOOT THE CHILDREN IN THE HOME! AS A MATTER OF FACT ITS LOOKING LIKE SHE MIGHT NOT OF EVEN SHOT HERSELF! SHE WAS LFT HANDED AND WAS SHOT ON THE RT SIDE OF HER HEAD! SHE HAD MADE SEVERAL CALLS TO SEVERAL PPL THAT MORNING AND NOTHING WAS OUT OF THE ORDINARY! ALSO A WHITE CAR WAS ALSO SEEN AT HER HOME THAT MORNING! SHE DNT DRIVE A WHITE CAR! THE INCONSISTANCIES IN THE 911 CALL ARE THAT SHE DIDNT KNW WHERE HER HUBBYWAS! BUT THEN SAID HE WAS AT WRK! SHE DNT KNW HIS CELL NUMBER! SHE WAS “DEAD ASLEEP” WHEN HE CLLD TO TELL HER HED BEEN SHOT! BUT HE HAD JUST WOKE HER  TO TELL HER HE WAS GOIN TO WORK! HE HAS LIED SOMANY TIMES TO THE POLICE! AND CHANGES HIS STORY AND WHERE ABOUTS EXACTLY!HE AVOIDS THE OPERATORS QUESTION OF WHAT REALLY HAPPENED! EVERY TIME HE CHANGES THE SUBJECT! THEY WERE SEEIN EACH OTHER BUT SHE BROKE IT OFF COUPLE OF YRS AGO! THEY WERE STILL HARRASSIN HER! CALLIN EMAILS DRIVIN BY! HE DIDNT GO TO EITHER HOSPITAL HE PASSED ON THE WAY HME OR THE FIRE STATION! HE WENT HOME! WHY??  SHE WAS IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH SUMONE ELSE AND VERY HAPPY! SUM KIDS AT THE SCHOOL HAVE SEEN COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ON FB AND HAVE BEEN ERASED QUICKLY TO WHERE THESE CHILDREN HAVE BEEN TO TLK TO COUNSELORS ABOUT THEM THINKIN THEY WERE IN ON IT! 

      • Deena

        I really can’t take you anymore!  Seriously… why would this man and his wife killed her kids, her niece and nephew and some girl they didn’t know.  I mean give me a break… what is to be gained by that.  They could have just killed her and been done with it!  And now kids at school are being implicated… come on now. Get real!
        When you finally pull your head out of your ass and realize the truth, I hope you can rest knowing that instead of memorializing the innocent lives lost, you spent your time attempting to defend the indefensible.
        Here’s a theory for you… what if she shot herself purposely on the right side in order to make it appear someone else had done.  Did that ever occur to you?
        Again… bring proof or shut it!

        Deena

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        Jrg7362 (unregistered) wrote, in response to Angies4kids (unregistered): THE MATTER IS STILL UNDER INVESTIGATION! THEY HAVE A REASON TO BELIEVE SHE DI NOT SHOOT THE CHILDREN IN THE HOME! AS A MATTER OF FACT ITS LOOKING LIKE SHE MIGHT NOT OF EVEN SHOT HERSELF! SHE WAS LFT HANDED AND WAS SHOT ON THE RT SIDE OF HER HEAD! SHE HAD MADE SEVERAL CALLS TO SEVERAL PPL THAT MORNING AND NOTHING WAS OUT OF THE ORDINARY! ALSO A WHITE CAR WAS ALSO SEEN AT HER HOME THAT MORNING! SHE DNT DRIVE A WHITE CAR! THE INCONSISTANCIES IN THE 911 CALL ARE THAT SHE DIDNT KNW WHERE HER HUBBYWAS! BUT THEN SAID HE WAS AT WRK! SHE DNT KNW HIS CELL NUMBER! SHE WAS “DEAD ASLEEP” WHEN HE CLLD TO TELL HER HED BEEN SHOT! BUT HE HAD JUST WOKE HER  TO TELL HER HE WAS GOIN TO WORK! HE HAS LIED SOMANY TIMES TO THE POLICE! AND CHANGES HIS STORY AND WHERE ABOUTS EXACTLY!HE AVOIDS THE OPERATORS QUESTION OF WHAT REALLY HAPPENED! EVERY TIME HE CHANGES THE SUBJECT! THEY WERE SEEIN EACH OTHER BUT SHE BROKE IT OFF COUPLE OF YRS AGO! THEY WERE STILL HARRASSIN HER! CALLIN EMAILS DRIVIN BY! HE DIDNT GO TO EITHER HOSPITAL HE PASSED ON THE WAY HME OR THE FIRE STATION! HE WENT HOME! WHY??  SHE WAS IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH SUMONE ELSE AND VERY HAPPY! SUM KIDS AT THE SCHOOL HAVE SEEN COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ON FB AND HAVE BEEN ERASED QUICKLY TO WHERE THESE CHILDREN HAVE BEEN TO TLK TO COUNSELORS ABOUT THEM THINKIN THEY WERE IN ON IT!

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  • Jrg7362

    all i have to really say is no one really knows what exactly happened! and the case is still under investigation! b4 u put ur 2 cents in u shud really read the whole entire story and know exactly what ur talking about! she had had an affair with ranall lamb! but that affair was over! him and his wife were still harrassin her! if u read EVERYTHING about the case u will see the inconsistancies in his story and his wifes! if u look at the details and time lines they dnt add up either!!! we dnt for a second believe she did this and wnt rest til we find answers!! the affair had been over for almost 2 yrs! mary ann had moved on but the lambs were still harrassin her! people shud really look at the whole picture instead of the rough draft!!!

    • Stephen Weiss

      There is no excuse for what she did. She killed 5 innocent people that had nothing to do with the affair or the harassment. Killing him I could understand. I could understand killing his wife. But killing him, her own kids, her niece and nephew? Honestly who shot them all, his wife? Please show me the inconsistencies you speak of. Otherwise I am going to write you off as a troll.

    • Anonymous

      The ONLY detail we need to know is: did she pull the trigger on five children?  There is NO excuse and NO forgiveness for that.  The fact that she spread her legs for a man who wasn’t her husband, and then had it blow up in her face, doesn’t remotely begin to even provide the tiniest shred of an excuse for MURDERING her two children, her niece, her nephew, and some poor girl who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.  If she wanted to end her own worthless existence, that’s fine, but she had no right to take them with her.

    • Suzee

      Listen, you piece of defending shit. I had already stated in this write up that the damn case is still under investigation. Also, what was going on between the three people (Lamb, his wife, and Mary Ann Holder) doesn’t fucking matter. What matters is the fact that, Mary Ann, is the one by all indications, two hand guns in the vehicle with a gun shot wound to her head, oh, and Randall Lamb with a gun shot wound to his shoulder cased by Ms. Holder, that MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD these FIVE children. For now, the article fucking stands and I will not alter it in anyway. This may still be under investigation, but until something comes along that is actual PROOF that she did not do this, then and only then will we shut our mouths about this selfish bitch who murdered these children. Why don’t you actually READ what I WROTE before you jump to your idiotic conclusions about what I had to say on the matter. Now, do yourself a favor, and shut the fuck up before you make yourself look even more foolish than you already do. We don’t take to kindly to defenders here unless you have proof that something needs to be changed about the article. 

    • Amsfast

      I don’t care who was harrassing who, what does that matter> oh someone is harrassing me so I think I will shoot my kids, stfu with  that shit

  • Anonymous

    Oh My God.
    This case is beyond words really but I’ll try. I read about it elsewhere but didn’t get the sequence of events, the pics of the victims and the relationship of the victims to the murderer. Goodness, most of them were her BLOOD. –
    Psychopath is all I could guess at. 
    I mean, I care that her mother is hurt but then there is Zachery, Robert, Makayla, Richard,  Hannaeigh, all their friends and families and communities. Ugh. It hurts just ta think about it.

    Nice write up, Suzee.

  • Amsfast

    So all this over a man? I do feel sorry for her mother but I feel worse for them kids, They didn’t ask for this. Why didnt she just kill herself? Can you imagine what them last couple of moments of their lives were like? Rest in peace you 5 angels, I will keep you in my hearts and to the cunt who did this, I really hope they have a special place in hell for people like you. 

  • peaches7891

    I am afraid that I can not be as kind with my comments..At some point in every mothers life she cannot take blame or responsibility for her childs actions. It does not matter how well a child is raised when terrible things like this happen. It is not the mothers fault that her child turned out to be so selfish that she took took those childrens life. What did the notes say? I am venturing to guess that they said either that she was sparing them the pain of living with out her, or the pain of knowing that she had killed the boyfriend(i assume that was her goal) It would appear that she had false perceptions of her importance. I am sure that her children would not trade their lives for having to grieve her, and I am sure they would have survived the embarrassment of having a mother that is a murderer…but then she took those choices into her own hand…what a selfish act, no excuse for it that I can see. I think even god might have difficulty forgiving this one…blessings to all

  • http://sonowinx.wordpress.com/ Kae Lily

    I’m left speechless…I don’t think I will be sleeping well tonight.

  • Kmohalachis

    god bless all who lost their loved ones and take as much joy as possible in knowing they were able to save others through their loss

  • Anonymous

    Why do people screw up their lives and end those of the innocent, sorry i cannot understand the pain her mom is going through but what a selfish person to harm the remaining who have to live with what sge did

  • Anonymous

    I can see where everyone is coming from on this, but I’m gonna be the bitch and judge her.  She killed five innocent kids.  Fuck her…hard.

  • Mitchell2662

    You did a really great job on this story. I HATE this story. I hate that all those beautiful children are gone because of stupidity and selfishness…I think way worse of their murderer, but appreciate where you were coming from in the write-up. Such a tragedy..

    • Suzee

      Thank you for the compliments. It was really difficult for me to decide how to approach this story in the write up. I’m glad you appreciate where I came from. It really did and still does seem appropriate to save Mary’s mother from reading harsh words about her daughter than she’s already heard. 

      • Mitchell2662

        I hear ya. I think you exercised great restraint :). I hate the “mother” and women like her…but I’m sure HER mother is suffering beyond anyone’s comprehension. Your article was perfect. Informative and eloquent. Good job!

        • Suzee

          Again, thank you.