Piggish parents starve daughter – why am I not surprised?

Angel

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Madison man and wife arrested for allegedly torturing, starving man’s 15-year-old daughter
Madison Police Investigate ‘Significant’ Child Abuse Case
No charges yet in Madison abuse case

Porky and Petunia Pig (aka Chad G. Chritton, 40, and Melinda J. Drabek-Chritton, 42) up there obviously haven’t missed any meals lately. That could be because they were eating their portions and also the food that should have gone to their 15-year-old daughter. Their daughter was found wandering in pajamas, barefoot, malnourished and injured, only a few scant blocks from the prison she called home. Did I say malnourished? What I meant to say was she was starved almost to the point of death – she weighed only 70 pounds. Let that sink in for a minute….15 years old, and only seventy pounds. I have a ten-year-old who weighs more than that, and she’s kinda on the thin side, although she is average in height for her age. An average sized fifteen-year-old (say, 5′ 2″) should weigh at least ninety pounds. Looking at the pics of the breeder and step-monster, maybe she was just so sick at her stomach from having to look at them over the dinner table that she couldn’t keep her food down. Looking at their fleshy jowls made me urp a bit of my breakfast.

But I digress…no, her painfully thin frame was not a result of anything as harmless as involuntary reaction to hideousness. It was a result of those two selfish, nasty pigs refusing to feed her. Well, to be fair, they did feed her sometimes…she was forced to drink her own urine and eat her own excrement more than once. How she managed to produce any of either on the scraps she was able to find in the garbage or on the floor is another mystery that may never be solved – kind of like the Bermuda triangle, but in reverse: instead of things inexplicably disappearing off the face of the earth, her body managed to produce waste products from thin air.

This child was forced to live in the basement, and an alarm was installed that would sound if she attempted to go upstairs. She was only let out that day because the step-sow wanted her to clean something. The girl said she had been strangled previously, but the reason she left the house that day was because the moo-monster threatened to throw her down the stairs. Her starvation is so extreme that doctors say there is a good chance she could die, because her body is going through “re-feeding syndrome” – a condition where her body rejects the introduction of food after a long period starvation. A doctor who examined her characterized the abuse as “serial torture with prolonged exposure to definite starvation.” Ya think?

There were apparently two other children in the household, both belonging to the she-beast. According to neighbors, they were both healthy and well-cared for. Anyone surprised by that? Yeah, me neither.

Both animals are pleading not guilty to the charges (of course), and have suggested that there are medical reasons for the girl’s condition. Yeah, the medical term is extreme starvation, eejits! I wonder how they are going to provide a medical explanation for the strangulation? Perhaps externally initiated asthma attacks? No, wait…I know! She has a mental disorder and strangled herself to get her sperm donor and step-slut in trouble. Yeah, that must be it.

I wonder where her bio-mother is, and why she has been allowed to live in such deplorable conditions for so long. I really, REALLY hope she simply didn’t know what was happening, and that this child has a safe place to go when – if – she recovers.

There are more details, but I just can’t stomach any more of this right now. And I hope the two bovine breeders have their stomachs removed with rusty spoons by their cell mates. Or something worse. Hopefully something much worse.

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  • Clevo

    These two were back in court today trying to prevent the court from severing their custody of their other two children. Blah!

    • Angel

       Custody of the remaining kids is the LEAST of what I would like to see the courts sever from these two DNA experiments gone wrong.  They need to have a few appendages severed as well – heads would be good. 

      • Clevo

        Very good  :-)

  • Observation Report

    http://media.jsonline.com/documents/Madison+Teen+Criminal+Complaint_use1.pdfThe victim’s statement has changed a few times. 1) The threat changed from “I’m going to throw you down the stairs head first” to “I’m going to slit your throat.” 2) She said that when she goes upstairs she’s allowed to eat oatmeal and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches then she said that Melinda won’t let her eat. 3) She stated that Melinda told Chad last month that if he wants to marry her he needs to give the victim to her, Chad and Melinda have been married for over a year. 4) She said she’s only seen a dentist once then she said she’s never seen a dentist. 5) She said that she never asks Melinda if she can go to the bathroom or eat because she doesn’t want to bother her, then she said she always asks her and she always says no. 6) She stated that Josh hasn’t raped her in over a year then she said that last time he raped her was a few months ago.  She also stated that she came upstairs for mealtimes then she once again changed it to only time she was ever allowed to come up is to do chores. She also admitted that she told Josh and Chad that she wanted to cut them she also told Melinda she wanted to kill her. That’s very troubling and yes she could have said this because of the abuse but the fact that her story has changed from I chose not to eat to they wouldn’t let me eat draws questions for me; along with the fact that she made two different statements on when Josh last raped her and Melinda saying that Chad couldn’t marry her unless he gave her to him last month but they’ve been married for over a year. I do believe they are guilty to an extent, I also believe someone really needs to look into this girl’s story and the fact that it has changed.

    • Bpcmd

      I found this blog by accident and I can’t believe what I’m reading here. Like the vast majority of you I was shocked and appalled when I learned of this story. I needed to learn more. I wanted to help this poor victim monetarily and learned of a fund set up by a cousin. However there were a few questions I had, why her (SLC) and where was the rest of the family? Someone supplied a link to the official complaint which answered many of them. 
      What shocks me are the comments from Jake and this person who calls themselves observationalreport. Let me just say the complaint is NOT a timeline. Investigators were trying to get the scope of what went on, not build a case for court proceedings! All of the things SLC reported are not mutually exclusive. In fact the flavor I got from the overall context in SLC’s account was one of escalating depravity. It seems to me that she was so frightened of her environment that she would rather search and eat garbage  scraps than beg her stepmom for food. Yes beg. She was so terrified that she would rather relieve herself in the basement than open the door to go upstairs to the bathroom. he probably got shit (no pun intended) every time she did that in the middle of the night. 
      Thankfully for her sake the last threat was the straw that broke the camels back.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/YUK3UU7UVN2UUOYUMWY4PE6AA4 Debbie

        Welcome….Your post was insightful, informative and well written. Glad you found us (BB) and hope you stick around. Please understand that a few of us will post what can be called “gallows humor” so that we don’t go nuts from reading and writing about the horrors that these children endure.
        That being said………….April can I keep Bpcmd? I’ll hug ‘em and squeeze ‘em and call ‘em George. pplleeaasseee?

        • http://badbreeders.net/ Malevolent April

          Only if you clean up after him, feed him and walk him.

    • Durham Red

      Seriously, what exactly is wrong with you?!

      First of all, the victim / main witness we are talking about is a malnourished, (many, many times over!) traumatized, serial abused and molested girl who is probably still in some kind of shock or at least was so when she made her first statement. She was never properly cared for and / or educated, much less even loved. Basically, she went through hell in life from day one. 

      I am sure NO ONE of us here can really imagine how it is to be in her place. Although I had my fair share of at least psychological abuse by family, peers (bullying) and ex-partners, I can neither.

      Second, who CARES when and how EXACTLY she was tortured and raped?! This teenage sexual offender DID rape her, he used her already desperate situation and made it even worse for his own pleasure. He surely spent no thoughts on HER feelings. And her physical condition clearly shows that her caregivers / guardians failed. Whether through active or passive behavior, abuse or neglect, really is a non-issue in my book. They were responsible for this child, they have to be held up to it. EOA.

      You may pretend over and over that you just want to go to the bottom of this story, but the impression you leave is a totally different one. It surely SOUNDS like you are laying at least part of the blame on the victim and that just won’t do. Sorry to say so. I am not one for swearing and cursing in an argument, but sometimes, relativism isn’t it, either. Don’t blame the victim. Ever. (Besides in cases when someone seriously endangered him-/herself like high speed car chases or other accident prone behavior, of course. Then they may have some part of responsibility. But that’s a whole other story.).

      I seriously advise you to stop posting, or at least posting like you did. You will convince no one here that the victim is to blame, and if you want to have more detailed / reliable information, wait for the trial to progress. There will be the hearing of witnesses, the showing of evidence, the statements of the attorneys etc..

      I just hope this girl will heal. Though I know deep down inside her chances aren’t good. It takes a lot of work, strength and support to overcome such a trauma. Let’s pray she will find all of that.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/YUK3UU7UVN2UUOYUMWY4PE6AA4 Debbie

        Yeah!!! What Durham said!

    • Clevo

      I think that you need to get a different tune because all of us are REALLY tired of hearing the same old one. You keep brining up inconsistancies in the girls statements that no one cares about and we know will be sorted out eventually. So what’s the what? Why, really, are you continuing to try to discredit a girl who was so abused? Is it OCD? Anal retentive pertsonality? You are connected somehow to the accused? You were involved with the abuse? You are a criminal justice student? What?
      We are pro victim and all we care about is that those who criminally neglected and abused her are held accountable and that includes the rape which we believe happened. So what if her story changed, I would expect that to happen once she was hydrated, given some nutrition so she could think staraight and felt safe. So what’s your deal? No bull, what is your basic malfunction?

    • Monte

      I bet you are Brittany, Josh’s girlfriend.

      • Angel

         Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! You lose! I think it’s Bruce – Josh’s boyfriend! ;-)

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/YUK3UU7UVN2UUOYUMWY4PE6AA4 Debbie

      How do you like them now???? Or do you still believe they are innocent?

      MADISON, Wisconsin (Reuters) – A Wisconsin
      couple accused of starving and imprisoning their teenage daughter in a basement for six years including forcing her to eat her own bodily waste and do chores in the nude, were charged with more abuse on Monday.
      Chad Chritton, 41, and his wife Melinda Drabek-Chritton,
      42, were charged with causing mental harm, false imprisonment and neglecting a child by Dane County District Attorney Ismael Ozanne.
      The couple pleaded not guilty to the charges in separate arraignment hearings in Dane County Circuit Court on Monday. They were charged initially in February with felony child abuse, false imprisonment and misdemeanor child neglect. Prosecutors have accused the couple of
      holding the girl in the basement of their home for about six years. The girl is now 15 years old. The girl told investigators she was rarely allowed to eat
      and, if given food, she was forced to eat off the floor. She also told
      detectives the couple forced her to use boxes or bags as a toilet and to bathe in a utility sink in the basement. Chritton and Drabek-Chritton, who are the girl’s father and stepmother, also were accused of physically abusing the girl and forcing her to do chores naked so she could not hide food in her clothing. The criminal complaint also accuses them of forcing the girl to drink her own urine and eat her own feces on several occasions.
      Prosecutors also charged the couple on Monday with one count each of failure to act during a sexual assault stemming from charges filed against the girl’s stepbrother, Joshua Drabek, 18. Prosecutors have accused Drabek of trying to have sexual intercourse and oral sex with the girl on several occasions. Drabek pleaded not guilty on Monday to felony sexual assault and child abuse charges. The couple told investigators they home-schooled the girl and said they needed to lock her in the basement because
      she was a threat to her family due to mental health issues. Charges were filed in February against the couple and Drabek after a passerby found the pajama-clad girl walking barefoot in her neighborhood and appearing “extremely malnourished.”
      “I ran away this time because I just couldn’t handle it anymore,” the girl told investigators, according to the criminal complaint. “I thought she was going to hurt me and throw me down the stairs. I was afraid.”
      The three defendants did not speak during the brief court appearances on Monday. Each wore a dark blue jail jump suit. They are being held in the Dane County jail.

  • The_Shadow_Knows

    “Dad says he is anxious to help with the investigation…”

    Great.  When does he plan to confess and then munch the pistol?

  • Marsha

    Dad says he is anxious to help with the investigation but needs to have an attorney with him because he has a learning disability.   I bet he is going to try to make a deal.

    • Angel

       Anxious to help with the investigation? He should have been anxious to protect his daughter from the abuse she suffered! If he had been doing his job, there would not be a court case right now….Pardon me while I gag…

    • Clevo

      I bet if we starved him he’d learn well enough how horrible it is; or when he’s assaulted by prison inmates, as I hope he will be, he’ll learn the truth about that too. One can only hope  :-)

  • Marsha

    Preliminary hearings were scheduled this morning for all three defendants.  They were postponed for the parents because they still do not have attorneys.   The son, however, waived his hearing.  In a preliminary hearing a judge decides whether there is enough evidence to go to trial.  Guess Josh and  his lawyer think there is.   Hmmm, shouldn’t he have seized the opportunity to say, “But Your Honor, this is only a HE SAID, SHE SAID situation – dismiss the charges” ?

  • Marsha

    She’s not in the Wisconsin 1959-1997 death records.

  • Prayers for Sandra

    Melinda Drabek’s daughter, Monique Drabek died on or around 12/29/1991. Her daughter died approximately 20 years ago on December 29th, however I am not 100% certain of the year of death, 1991 or so.

  • Prayers for Sandra

    Anyone know what Monique Drabek (Melinda Drabek’s first child) died of?

    • Angel

       She had a daughter? Maybe she just doesn’t like girls…and starved her own to death as well.  Seriously, though, I would be interested to know the cause of death and the age of Monique when she died.

    • The_Shadow_Knows

      She ate her?

      • Angel

         Between you, Malevolent April and Trench, I have been going through a lot more Dr. Pepper and coffee lately.  And cleaning my computer screen more frequently as well.

        • The_Shadow_Knows

          Glad to be of service.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/YUK3UU7UVN2UUOYUMWY4PE6AA4 Debbie

          Be careful and don’t shoot the Dr Pepper or coffee out of your nose. That burns like hell. Just FYI. 

          • Angel

             I know…why do you think I’ve been cleaning my screen more? The only upside to shooting hot or bubbly liquids out your nose is that it REALLY helps to clear out the sinuses! My nasal passages have never been so clean…

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/YUK3UU7UVN2UUOYUMWY4PE6AA4 Debbie

            Well- to each his own. I would rather use tissues- less painful….unless your in………uh never mind…TMI

  • Prayers for Sandra

    Finally, all of their lies are catching up with them. Melinda Drabek, Chad Chritton and Josh Chritton, I anxiously await the day you are sentenced. You can no longer hide the truth and you can no longer hide Sandra. Thank God Sandra survived so that she can testify to what she endured. Right now the most important thing is that Sandra is a survivor and she is finally safe!

    Melinda, I certainly hope the Habitat for Humanity house you were given under your falsification of the facts on your application form (per Habitat for Humanity)  is taken away from you. I can tell you this, you certainly are no longer welcome in the neighborhood.

    Melinda, you are “master” to nobody! You will pay and you will suffer for every single abuse you inflicted. Thank goodness you took your Facebook offline, absolutely pathetic!

    In closing, I would like to say please everyone pray for Sandra.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YUK3UU7UVN2UUOYUMWY4PE6AA4 Debbie

    It appears to me, there have been many statements written concerning the guilt OR innocence of the “its” involved with abusing this child. Each time person A points out a fact about the case, Person B is quick to respond with how the victim is a unreliable and uncredible witness. Also, in IMO, it appears that the more I read of Observation Reports posts, the more it reminds me of what ol Jakeboy had to say. Though I will admit it is written with better grammar and spelling. I don’t believe anyone here at BB will be able to sway the opinion of anyone who is not willing to admit that they might not be as right as they thought they were.
    So, what I am about to say is easier said than done….. Don’t poke the troll and maybe it will slither away.

    • Angel

       Or maybe the psychiatrists will realize that one of the patients is sneaking into the computer room without permission, and up his meds so he will stay in his cell when he is not in a therapy session….

  • Marsha

    And Vega, a stranger who was shocked and upset to see a painfully thin barefoot girl
    in the snow bleeding from a gash in her head got every detail of what she said
    right?  I wouldn’t remember ‘door’ or ‘window’, I’d remember ‘escaped.’

    You are grasping at straws.

  • Marsha

    The mother of a 13 year old cannot legally give consent to her having sexual contact.   No normal 17 or 18 year old wants to be dating a 13 year old anyway.   I certainly had no interest in 13 year olds when I was an adult or near-adult?  Did you date 13 year olds when you were 17 or 18?

    What is WITH these people anyway?  Josh’s mother allows him to go live with a 13 year old and his mother.  The 13 year old’s mother allows him to sleep in the bed with her daughter.   That sort of dysfunctionality never went on in my family!

    Don’t be so sure no one witnessed the sexual abuse.  Three people are charged.   Someone may turn on someone else.

  • Observation Report

    Also she had stated to Vegal that she did in fact escape through a window, then later on she reported she escaped through the door, don’t believe me look it up yourself, story keeps changing. She’s an un-creditable witness; someone who changes their story just as much as she has is not a reliable witness what so ever and if you say different then your retarded

  • Sue

    I have heard stories of teenagers making up stories to get back at their parents for things that might have pissed them off.  My thoughts on this is how would this child get the information to make up a story if she was locked in a basement.  She didn’t have access to peers and I hope to god didn’t have access to porn to know what to say happened.  I don’t imagine her mental capacity is the same as a normal 15 yr old after being isolated and starved for years so how could she have made these stories up?  I think it is so disgusting that ANYONE would try to put any blame on this child after what she’s been through.  Who gives a rat’s ass about holes in the story?  Even the media can make mistakes about little details.  That doesn’t make the poor child a liar.  I think these people that are jumping on all these little inconsistences are disgusting and need to be shot along side those pigs.

    And from what I get from a post the bio-mother made in one of those memorial sites is that her and the “father” were still married in 1997 so he would have been investigated then with the bio so there is your connects to 1997.  Just trying to fill in some of those “holes” for ya Jackass!! 

  • Marsha

    I can excuse her for her words.  A powerless, abused girl who was given up by her mother in favor of her sex offender stepfather comes to a household where she is again sexually abused.   Sure she can threaten to take a knife to the people who are abusing her or not helping her.   Doesn’t bother me at all.  AT ALL.  She didn’t hurt anyone , did she?  I’d take her in as a foster child if I lived in that community without a moment’s worry.

    How dare you equate this girl’s torment to making a few empty threats!   If a young girl is forced to perform oral sex in the house in which she lives and no one sees it, we are supposed to treat it as a He said, she said situation?  And if she ever gets scared and denies it – while being interviewed in the same household where her torments are – well then it’s all over, she’s a liar one way or another.  The police and CPS should just shut the door and go away and it can continue to happen.

    I do not have a thick skull and there is nothing wrong with my logic.   Expert investigators interviewed people over a several day period and brought charges.   What this girl reported is entirely consistent with a known pattern of abuse.  I believe her.   If you don’t, well you and ol’ Jake are alone here in that.

    Most people read this and are appalled at the torture she’s been through.   We want to help.  Those that can afford it will probably send some money to a fund to help that I believe is being established.   Your reaction is very odd – you look for discrepancies.   In just one example, you ask how could she get out and eat in the trash and a neighbor see that if the windows are barred,  ready to pounce on what you are hoping is a lie.  In the criminal complaint, her ‘father’ says that is why he put the wooden bars on the window.  You got all excited about trivial discrepancies in news reports as if one reporter writing that she got out a window and another writing that she escaped through a door was also proof that she was lying (as if the hospital would have allowed reporters in). 

    Can you explain why this case gets to you so much that you have argued and argued with us against that poor girl?  Do you know these people?   Have you kept a child locked up?  What’s going on with you?  This is really bizarre.

    I am here because I love children and hate child abuse.   I have a daughter and I’m awaiting the birth of my first grandchild.   I have been involved in a number of projects to prevent child abuse and protect children in my state.  My heart goes out to this poor girl.

    • Observation Report

      First off the only people that would know for sure if she was raped would be her and Josh therefore it’s a he said she said situation because there was absolutely no witnesses what so ever. And the reason why I’m so into this is because I don’t like the fact that everyone is already prosecuting him based off of one person said, it’s not right at all; just because he’s a registered sex offender does not mean he raped his step sister, also the mother of that 13 year old pretty much gave consent to it all when she allowed him to not only live with them for a few months but to allow them to sleep together in the same bed when they knew they were in a relationship.

  • Angel

    Up  until this point I have attempted to be open minded and impartial as far as your comments are concerned.  However, I am quickly losing my patience – especially since you seem to be attempting to find every possible ‘reason’ why the rape accusations are false (or could be).  I know from personal experience as well as from education and OTJ training that abuse victims rarely lie about the abuse.  Any of it. For you to suggest that this girl was confused enough to make up a story – against an already convicted child rapist, no less – is frankly disgusting.  It’s people like you who make it harder for the victims of such abuse to work up the courage to report such animals to the authorities.  As a survivor of childhood physical and sexual abuse myself, I can assure you that it is far more likely that she FORGOT more of the abuse than she actually remembers. It is a natural self-preservation defense mechanism.  The fact that she was able to come up with details only confirms my belief that she was raped.  Victims of abuse usually prefer to repress the worst memories, and often only remember them when their backs are to the wall.  She felt she was in mortal danger, and managed to work up the courage to finally tell someone what was really happening in the home.  Suggesting that she is lying about that is offensive to me, and probably to many others on this site.  Unless you can come up with some proof that she is lying – like a camera in her dungeon that recorded every minute of her life, and shows that no one ever touched her – I suggest you back off on the “everybody involved is lying about something” angle and find something more useful to do with your time.  Perhaps you might want to begin by checking out a few research books from a local library about the mental state of sex abuse victims… and the statistics on how many of them actually ‘make up’  details about nonexistent abuse.   I think you’ll find the information to be eye-opening, to say the least.

    • Observation Report

      You’re right there are cameras in her dungeon. So why hasn’t any substantial evidence come up on the videos from the camera’s, if it was going on for 5 years then they would’ve caught at least the tiniest bit of evidence, but they don’t. Which is another reason why I say it’s a he said she situation. There’s no proof she was ever raped and there’s no proof she wasn’t raped simple as that. Only thing we have based on it all is what she claims has happened, and it’s very common for trauma victims to be confused and they do tend to recall things that may not have happened. I’m not saying they’d lie on purpose I’m just saying that it’s possible she may recount something that may have taken place in her past home and got it confused with the situation she’s in now. The girl has been abused her whole life therefore that possibility could very well be accurate (Not that I’m saying it is)

      • Marsha

        How do you know that no evidence came up on the camera to show she was being sexually abused?  It wasn’t the police watching the camera, it was the mother of alleged perpetrator, the one that said that this victim was lying and probably said the 13 year old victim (whom he was convicted of abusing) was lying too.   I say the latter based on the fact that Sandra told the police that he didn’t abuse the 13 year old, which is something she must have heard at home.

  • Veronica

    Wow, what a troll-fest!  Bottom line: this girl’s almost starving to death is the responsibility of her parents.  

  • Prayers for Sandra

    Sam Stenbroten aka JakeHanson2, please attend the trial so you can hear all the dirty little secrets. You do not know what went on inside the house when you were not there.  Ask Sandra about the sexual abuse and physical abuse she suffererd at the hands of your best friend, Josh Drabek. Clearly, you are in denial and you defend child abusers. Did you abuse her too? PATHETIC.

    • Observation Report

      Just because she says that Josh raped her does not mean he actually did rape her. Once again her story has changed on more than one account, which either means she’s lying or she’s confused (Which wouldn’t be too far from possible) which would mean anything she says can’t be used in court, or he did in deed do it but you yourself were not in that home and you don’t know what went on either; before you wanna go at someone for assuming shit you may wanna check yourself.

    • Observation Report

      How do you know for sure that JakeHanson2 is Sam Stenbroten or that he’s even still reading this?

      • Angel

         Why do you care? Are you going to attempt to discredit this person as well?  I am beginning to wonder if you are not a member of the family who is simply fishing for details that could exonerate your friends.  And failing miserably, since there are none.

        • Observation Report

          I still fail to see what evidence you have with the rape besides what she claims. I understand I haven’t brought much to the table myself but there’s all kinds of different things that could have happened and I’m just trying to bring up points that everyone refuses to see.

          • Angel

             I still fail to see what evidence YOU have that the rape did not occur – besides what the abusive family members claim.  Here’s a little food for thought…we have proof that a) Josh has raped an underage girl in the past, b) the sperm donor and step-pig are indeed failures as parents AND are not above lying to protect Josh, and c) at least some of the claims made by the girl have already been substantiated.  Oh, and d) the girl has not been proven to be a liar about anything mentioned so far – but the other family members have.  Conclusion: Unless her claims are somehow PROVEN to be false, her word should be given precedence over theirs, because she has already proved to be more honest and reliable than the three of them combined.

            And I am leaning more and more to the conclusion that you have some sort of personal stake in this case, since I have yet to see you report any observations on any other case profiled on this site – and MOST of them have been hotly contested by family members, friends, and other idiots in a much more exuberant manner than what we have seen from Jake or anyone else on this thread.  So, tell us…are you the public defender for the abusive freaks, or just another family member out to try and muddy the waters before it hits the courtroom?  Because you have thoroughly convinced me that you are NOT simply an impartial observer in all of this drama.  Observation Report, my arse. Fairy Tale Report is more like it.

          • The_Shadow_Knows

            “And I am leaning more and more to the conclusion that you have some sort of personal stake in this case…”

            Possibly, but this is also the Internet, home of a hundred million tin foil hat conspiracy theorists.  Some people just get off on claiming that everything happened the opposite of how it obviously really happened.  I guess it makes them feel smarter than everyone else - not realizing what fools they are to anyone who cares to actually examine the evidence.  The MO in this case - ignoring a mountain of evidence to focus on a few minor (and irrelevant) discrepancies – is classic conspiracy theory garbage.  They can see one thousand pieces of evidence that Oswald shot JFK, find one or two minor discrepancies, and then suddenly the thousand pieces of evidence don’t exist (in their minds) and it was some invisible man on the grassy knoll.  I get that kind of vibe in this case as well.  Sure the girl was starved, sure the girl was locked in a dungeon, sure the girl was made to walk around naked – but hey, she confused a door and a window, so she wasn’t abused after all!  Right?

            Wrong.

          • Angel

             I just figured if it was a conspiracy theory, he would have applied some of his ‘discrepancy spotting abilities’  to other threads on this site as well.  I mean – why not the Overton story? That would have been a good one for him to latch on to as well, and he would have likely had a lot more supporters on his side too.  Just saying…

            But you could be right – after all, conspiracy nuts usually pick a single topic to focus on,  such as the government-sanctioned Kennedy murder(s), the fake moon landing, or the aliens on ice… so this eejit could have simply found this story and become enthralled with his own version of events.  Or maybe he just likes to see his words in print. Or maybe he is only given a few hours a day on the computer at the asylum, and just wants to share his psychoses with sane people. LOL

          • Danielle

            I totally agree that he could’ve done this to any story, and Overton being at the top of  my list too — I’ve poked holes in that story myself in my own head going around and around it and reading anything I could get my hands on. 

            I read the criminal complaint for this poor girl, every word of it. I didn’t find discrepancies or holes or words of hers that I would question. I did find a “story” of the most horrible things and horrible life that a 15-year old could’ve lived. How Observation Report could think any differently than us is beyond me.  

          • The_Shadow_Knows

            We KNOW – and you have admitted this yourself – that she was forced to parade around naked by her perverted sicko father using the bullshit excuse “I was afraid she might pull a knife, so I didn’t let her wear clothes.”  If you’re really afraid someone is going to stab you, you call the authorities.  You don’t force them to walk around NAKED.  This was SEX ABUSE pure and simple, on top of all the other abuse she suffered.  So do I know for sure she was raped?  No.  But her claim is credible given the sick, sadistic perverts she lived with.  Moby Dickless and Bertha the Hutt should both be put down before they waste any more valuable oxygen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002027066687 Kae Lily

    I think the bottom line is this: Whatever the circumstances are/were, these shitstains  are responsible because they abused and neglected this girl and she is on the verge of death as result.

  • Marsha

    What a great defense strategy, discredit the girl and then nothing she says can be believed!  Be sure to pass that along to the parent’s attorney.   It’s worked before.  

    Recipe for getting away with child torture:   Take the child out of school when he or she begins talking about what happened in the home and pretend to home school.   Imprison her away from anyone who might question what was going on.   Indoctrinate any siblings into the idea that she is bad, stupid, and a liar and deserves ill treatment.    Limit his or her food and claim that he or she is anorexic or has a metabolic disorder – apparently perfect strangers will buy this.  Then you can do whatever else you want.  Hey, if no one sees what is going on, it’s her against them.  Case closed!

    If she did have knives under her bed after she came there, it’s no wonder.   She came from a home where her stepfather was a registered sex offender so maybe she was afraid.  You know there’s an aunt who recently posted on these boards.   She’s adopted her nephew who was abused.   I think he was 5.   At first he slept with a knife under his pillow.   She didn’t make him sleep in the basement, she just reassured him and loved him and now he sleeps with his teddy bear.

    I don’t believe that girl is lying at all.  It is astonishing to me that you would come here and defend those people.

    • Observation Report

      AGAIN I’M NOT TRYING TO DEFEND ANYONE and Clevo’s the one who said she’s confused and  lethargic. If that’s the case then she’s an unreliable witness simple as that; I’m sure that aunt’s nephew never threatened to cut her otherwise she would have gotten help for him and got him out of that home; which is exactly what this family should have done but they didn’t which is exactly why I say they are guilty for neglect and starvation. 
      They didn’t put her into the basement until she had threatened to cut them, she said so herself, and again for the record so I can get this through your thick skull. THAT DOESN’T MAKE IT RIGHT FOR THEM TO PUT HER IN THE BASEMENT. I’m not defending anyone as I stated before I do believe both parties in this are lying. Investigate a little more and you might just see that (that is if your brain is capable of any sort of logic what so ever) the story has been switched around more than once, the family has also been lying too there’s no doubt about that. I’m not defending anyone they’re both lying if you’d read her statement you’d realize that, her story has changed on more than one occasion. Which goes to show that either she’s lying or she is confused and lethargic as Clevo claims she is.

  • Observation Report

    “First, someone as starved  and ill as she is does not have a fully functioning brain but rather is confused and lethargic” (quoting from Clevo) In the court of law if someone is confused and lethargic that would make them an unreliable witness, if that’s the case then they don’t have anything to prove that she was ever raped on the count of it’s coming from her who may in fact be confused and lethargic as Clevo says she is.

    • Clevo

      Seriously, you are such a troll. Given the advanced state of her starvation, her brain would not be functioning normally and her thinking processes would be slowed however that would not preclude her memories or alertness once they got some IVs going with some glucose and some nutrition going. Do you think the survivors of Dachow and Auschwitz were lying about what happened to them and their families because of their debilitated state when rescued? What a load of crap you spout. If the girl threatened to knife the abusive pieces of donkey dung then I say it’s REALLY too bad that she didn’t. The camera on the refrigerator or pantry or whatever speaks volumes that don’t need interpretation as it, admittedly, was to keep her from eating. Thought she had diabetes my ass! Again, she is a minor and the condition in which she was found is enough to prove negligence and reckless endangerment. There is no “he said, she said” about it. What, exactly do you NOT get about that? What about that is soooo difficult for you to mentally process and how many times does it have to be explained to you?

  • The_Shadow_Knows

    “You also have to keep in mind that she was not always forced to be naked…”

    Well, why didn’t you say so?  That makes it all better.

    • Observation Report

      It doesn’t make it better I was proving a point that it was likely she had easy access to knives, if you had any sort of logic nor sense you’d understand that

      • The_Shadow_Knows

        That doesn’t address the issue of her being forced to do chores naked SOMETIMES, as you apparently concede she was.  I guess you see nothing wrong with that?  Birds of a feather must apply in your case as well.

        • Observation Report

          I never said there wasn’t anything wrong with it. What I’m saying is that it’s very possible that she could have took a knife and hid it like her father claims she has, she was not always forced to do chores naked therefore it’s possible that she did take a knife and try to use it or hide it with the intentions of using it. She’s already said her self she’s threatened to cut all of them which indicates that she’s perfectly capable of taking a knife and she’s more than willing to use it; if she did in fact do that though then they should have gotten help instead of making her do chores naked and locking her in the basement because that isn’t right at all, there’s absolutely no excuse for it. 
          I’m not trying to make excuses for this family at all I’m just saying some of it adds up and some of it doesn’t; as I said before it’s a he said she said situation, no one really knows what happened except for the people in that household. I do believe both parties in this whole situation have been lying.

          • The_Shadow_Knows

            There’s no valid reason for making your child do chores naked.  That’s sex abuse, pure and simple, and makes charges of rape by this disgusting sicko seem quite credible. That’s without even mentioning the starvation and the locking in the basement…

          • Observation Report

            You’re right there is no excuse for what they did, but the bottom line is no one knows for sure what happened, no one knows what’s fact and what’s not. I don’t care what she says happened because she’s a trauma victim and like Clevo said trauma victims tend to be confused especially after 5 years of abuse. There’s no substantial evidence that Josh was even in the house when it all went down; he did live with his grandpa at one point in time do remember. Not that I’m excusing the fact that she was forced to do chores naked because it was wrong, but there could have been a valid reason. She could have indeed taken a knife like her father claims she had which would be one reason why they’d want her to work naked (Again not saying it’s right to do because it’s not) but it could have happened. She also claimed that she wasn’t locked away in the basement until after she made verbal threats to cut family members, also a valid reason (also not right to do nor humane) it’s very possible that there was more than one victim involved, yes I do agree she was indeed a victim she was more a victim than anyone else, but since she did make verbal threats that would make the family a victim as well; just because she’s a victim does not mean you can excuse her for her actions.

  • Muggle

    A NINE YEAR OLD threatened to cut her family.  Where the FUCK do you think a nine year old learned shit like that?  Movies? TV? Clearly her parents were not responsible.  This was when she was still in public school, they could have sent her to a fucking counselor instead of locking her in the damn basement and pulling her out of school, AND starving her to death.  Fuck, there are all kinds of things they could have done to deal with her “mental issues.”  Nothing you’re saying is making these pigs look any better. 

  • Your_Pal_Nancy

    I read the entire complaint, and you are a stupid fuckin’ son of a bitch. How can you read the shit they put her through and still blame her? You are an asshole, and a miserable bastard.

  • Observation Report

    She also stated that she’s threatened to cut family members and because of that she was put in the basement. If I was being threatened I sure as hell wouldn’t want that person unsupervised around the rest of my family. Would you?

    • http://trench.co Trench Reynolds


      Okay for the record I’m not saying these people are innocent, nor am I saying they are guilty; what I do believe is that there are some holes in all of this and some of it doesn’t add up.

      Sounds like that you’re arguing they’re innocent to me. What’s your stake in all of this?

      • Observation Report

        Okay for the record I’m not saying these people are innocent, nor am I saying they are guilty; what I do believe is that there are some holes in all of this and some of it doesn’t add up.How does it sound like I’m saying they’re innocent? I believe there’s holes and some of it doesn’t add up, doesn’t mean I’m saying they’re innocent; her father said she’s threatened to kill them she’s confirmed that to be true. She’s being accused of having a knife standing over him she says that’s false. Its a he said she said situation and the fact of the matter is that no one knows what happened in that house. Insulting and going at people for accusations is beyond childish and I feel bad for everyone on here, goes to show how you spend your life; insulting and talking shit about people who haven’t even been proven to be guilty nor innocent is not the way to live life. You’re all a bunch of immature and judgmental. I don’t know how you got me saying they’re innocent from that statement, just because shit doesn’t add up does not mean I’m saying they’re innocent.

    • Clevo

      First, someone as starved  and ill as she is does not have a fully functioning brain but rather is confused and lethargic and I am surprised she was even walking/talking/thinking at all. Second it appears she was neglected and abused in both homes her whole life. Third that kind of neglect of a child is criminal negligence. Fourth the sexual assault is also a crime. Fith the agencies who were supposed to ensure her safety failed and should also be held criminally negligent.  To top everything off many of your comments show a distinct lack of understanding when putting the reports in order and understanding the mental & physical effects of the abuse/neglect AND make it appear that you are beating on a child who has been greatly wronged and taking up with the trash that wronged her. My advice to you would be: 1) get an insightful, logical mind, 2) fuck off with the nit picking and defending the abusers.

      • Observation Report

        “First, someone as starved  and ill as she is does not have a fully functioning brain but rather is confused and lethargic” That would make her an unreliable witness. would it not?

        • Angel

           No, it would make her a victim of abuse.

        • Clevo

          Possibly, however her mental powers would quickly return with increased caloric intake. But that’s not what you really mean is it ?
          You mean to discredit her by any means necessary to defend the abusers and get your own way don’t you? So here’s the thing, HER PHYSICAL CONDITION IS THE ONLY WITNESS NEEDED TO PROVE CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE ! Why to you keep trying to get around that. If you ask me your brain is far from fully functional.

          • Observation Report

            What if the outcome I’m getting my way, I don’t give a fuck what their sentence is and I’ve already told you and everyone else on here it’s obvious they’re guilty of neglect and abuse along with starving her. I’m saying they don’t have shit for the rape except for what she’s said and since there has been no witnesses to step forth there is no proof. Once again it’s a he said she said situation and the fact that everyone wants to immediately say he did it is bullshit, innocent until proven guilty.  

          • Angel

             Going with your line of reasoning, all rape victims are liars until proven otherwise.  Because all of those cases boil down to a ‘he said, she said’ situation.  How many rapists have you ever heard of who said when first asked, “Yes, I raped her?” Or told their friends and family members who knew about it to tell the truth? Pathetic……

            No witness to step forth? She IS the only witness, unless you want to count the rapist, or unless the sow and her brood watched the attacks. If that’s the case, then kindly refer to my comments above – of course they are not going to admit it – they are hoping that no proof will be found, and that they can convince a jury to be just as obtuse as you are being.

            And it’s not innocent until proven guilty – go back and read up on it. It’s guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.  Reasonable doubt does not equal innocence, it only means that there could be circumstances that cast enough doubt on a situation to prevent conviction.  And this is a website, not a courtroom – none of us have to follow court procedure.  Are there any other legal or moral issues you would like for me to prove you wrong about today? I’m game if you are…

          • The_Shadow_Knows

            “I don’t give a fuck what their sentence is…”

            Well there’s your problem.  You don’t care whether child abusers are punished.  The rest of us want them sent to Devil’s Island and caned daily.

          • The_Shadow_Knows

            “I don’t give a fuck what their sentence is…”

            Well there’s your problem.  You don’t care if child abusers are punished.  The rest of us want them sent to Devil’s Island and caned daily.

            (Oops! I think my record is skipping.)

          • Danielle

            Have you read the criminal complaint and really read the words that Sandra used when discriminating the rapes?  She gave details about the day, like that an aunt was coming over or something and she was able to give pretty good detail to the things that transpired on those days and where they were in the house, etc…  how can you say that a 15-year old victim of ALL the things that she’s a victim of would just throw in these other accusations to maybe just make her story worse?  Hasn’t she been through enough? 

            Anything that happens in this whole world between 2 people is a case of “he said, she said” – whether its what happened on the way to the grocery store or the fact that a convicted sexual predator took advantage of an already mentally disturbed girl who’d been tortured and put through the ringer. 

            I’m all for justice and for being having fair trials and all that good stuff, I really am. But to think that this girl is making up the molestation and rape is just a disgusting angle to take. You should be ashamed of yourself. 

    • Angel

      No…but I’d certainly make an effort to provide the child with counseling rather than a lonely cell in the basement.  Are you seriously saying that locking her away in a basement was a good option here? Whatever you’re smoking…I bet there are some drug dealers that would pay top dollar for a steady supply of it…you may have yourself a new profession, OR – selling smokable stupidity. 

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